Topic: Scam Warning: WoodCollector - page 7. (Read 29102 times)

Exhibit B:


The design he created was inspired by UKcrypto? UKcrypto + google?

EXHIBIT A:

10 coins of 2015?

Original design just came to him? Or from google?

I understand that don't worry.

@smoothie - I hope you realize that I am not trying to defend him and am trying to avoid the "mob mentality" as much as possible.

I did notice that all of the quotes you mentioned all off the pieces except for number 9 which is what LazerViking purchased.

I am also somewhat confused by him claiming they were his original designs as his customers were giving him outlines as to what they wanted their pieces to look like

If you want to rely on google then rely on google, don't rely on some nameless random person that you would never in 100 years trust with your own money. I am not trying to say that anyone is right or wrong, but the evidence presented by paul should be 100% ignored. If you can do that and still come to the same conclusion then you are free to call him a scammer all you want.

As far as I am concerned, all the evidence has come from people that cannot be relied upon. All that I can say with certainty right now is that nubbins thinks that WC might be a fraud, blazedout419 is a happy customer and that OgNasty thinks that WC's art is "beautiful" other then that I can say nothing.

@LazerViking - I agree that may be your conclusion however I cannot say with certainty that is what he would do. If you do decide to move forward with the purchase I would highly recommend insisting on escrow with strict terms that would allow funds to be released to WC.

In a long post I made there were several places where WC made implications that he does original/custom work.

Which by his own admission by using vector images or stock photos he is a fraud.

Original work is like I already said...ORIGINAL...my coin designs (the background of my physical bitcoin designs) I proved yesterday that they were in fact original.

He never really addressed the fact that he assumed my work was a copy of other's works and when proven wrong decided to completely ignore that fact.

Very unprofessional given I approached him to get facts from him about his work before making a judgement and the fact that he expected nubbins to do the same thing I did, then he goes and throws me under the bus.

LazerViking deserves a refund in my view as the precedent that the work was custom/original was false as he misrepresented his work to be original/custom when they are obviously not.

I have no interest in further debate -- my opinion has been stated, and you are welcome to yours as well.

But, I trust the expert testimony given by Searle421 and
Paul Revere...and I trust my own eyes, common sense and
brain.

How do you know they are experts? Serious question - you know them from Adam...

Also, the stolen vector images discovered by others...


What if he bought the licence to the vector images, does the licence not allow him to carve that image into wood? What about the vector that one client sent to him and asked he copy? That does not mean they are stolen.

i guess a lot of posts were lost due to the forum disk failure.

Anyway, I'm sick of this thread...I'm gonna say my piece and
then this will be my last post in this thread (hopefully).

A lot of people were asking yesterday about how do I know
it was done by a laser.

The fact is, I don't know 100%.  Nothing in life is ever
100% certain.

But, I trust the expert testimony given by Searle421 and
Paul Revere...and I trust my own eyes, common sense and
brain.

This stuff is just too detailed and accurate to be
hand carved.  Even if possible, would take hundreds
or thousands of hours, which makes ZERO sense given
the fact that Woodcollector claimed to be doing this
in his spare time while running 3 businesses (yeah right).

Plus he kept changing his story.

First it was supposedly "hand carved", then was done
by "carbon paper", and then by "rotary tool".  

Do the research yourself -- google some images of
rotary tool carvings.  They are not at the same
level of detail.

Also, the stolen vector images discovered by others...

It all adds up to one thing.

Make your own judgement.

I feel bad for wood collector because he allowed
himself to dig a hole of dishonesty when he
could have simply admitted not ALL of it
was hand carved.  

I respect anyone who produces goods and
sells them in the market place, and WC
had nice stuff. But the denial, the
repeated lies, and the attacks on others who
would try to expose the truth were disgusting.

Finally, his reactions to the drama last night
did not have the ring of truth whatsoever. 
He was pissed off at the expose...
whereas I believe a true master
artisan would be flattered and laughing his
ass off in joy that people would be accusing
his hand carvings of being laser engraved.

still keeping up the charade...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10231733

Very kind of you to do some marketing for your mom while your out witch hunting. If she gave a discount i may stop by more often.

Disgusting:


Great job screening your shills, WC.

Cowards never come clean, they just slink away.

I can't fault him for it and I realize I was mistaken about his being escrow for WoodCollecter...



but I would sure love to tease him about that $14k paperweight! 

At this point, what does Woodcollector have to lose by "coming clean"?
And what does he really have to gain by continuing the charade?

Feels like a case of the emperor wearing no clothes.

 

Nubbins delivers! I had never seen a t-shirt made before (except for those shitty iron-ons i did for this site in 2013), was very cool to see.

Also, I know blazedout from IRC pretty damn well. The guy has coins to spend because he has made some very smart business decisions along the way. You cannot fault a man for that, and anyone trying to rope him into this whole debacle is grasping at straws.

Sure I have no problem admitting that.   

I only read the WoodCutter's post where he said that blazed was doing escrow for him so that is what I pointed out. 

It turns out that WoodCutter never asked blazed to be escrow for him so they are not connected in that way.

I guess blazed is just a dude with way too much money and a really shitty eye for art.  My bad.

The topic of sale of accounts is not the topic of this thread so I am not sure why you are bringing it up. The sale of accounts is allowed per forum rules, if you have a problem with that I would suggest you open a thread in meta.

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since I proved you wrong about blazed being escrow are you willing to retract your statement and admit to you being wrong?

Because he co-owns Silver Wallets but chooses to advertise for bit-x.

Good luck continuing to sell those accounts you scamming shitbag