Topic: Scam Warning: WoodCollector - page 2. (Read 29102 times)
@TECSHARE read this:
i'm still waiting for the video from WC.
Hi guys, It seems i have been able to find the answer to all my other problems through Bitcoin and its community so here goes another attempt.
I am looking to have a laser engraver engineered that does not suffer from the "straight line" problem.
The straight line problem can be better understood by watching this video
Buying and off the shelf laser engraver means i could only engrave things that are round which have a perfectly straight line to write on, So something like a vase which has curves cannot be engraved as the laser is out of focus on any part of the vase that is not on the focus line.
I would be willing to offer a negotiable fee or bounty to anyone who could solve this engineering problem. You would not need to build the actual machine. Just provide engineering documents and a parts list so i could build it DIY style.
Thanks
I am looking to have a laser engraver engineered that does not suffer from the "straight line" problem.
The straight line problem can be better understood by watching this video
Buying and off the shelf laser engraver means i could only engrave things that are round which have a perfectly straight line to write on, So something like a vase which has curves cannot be engraved as the laser is out of focus on any part of the vase that is not on the focus line.
I would be willing to offer a negotiable fee or bounty to anyone who could solve this engineering problem. You would not need to build the actual machine. Just provide engineering documents and a parts list so i could build it DIY style.
Thanks
i'm still waiting for the video from WC.
The quote above shows WoodCollector uses laser engravers.
This collection of quotes by LazerViking shows WoodCollector lied about his sketching.
There was also another quote where he falsely claimed the lion stock image was provided by his customer after being caught. When the customer denied it, WoodCollector accused the customer of trying to blackmail him.
His claims about the $12,600 pink wood and the great difficulty to obtain it has also been proven to be false. Fluffypony even linked a site where the wood can be obtained for less than $50.
Then there are stories about crafting designs for Hollywood actors, owning three multimillion dollar businesses, selling $300k designs, able to rain hell on people who try to cross him, etc.
Considering all this, and since no one knows what he looks like, what is stopping this scam artist from hiring a real expert carver to masquerade as himself? The unbelievable excuse of taking two days to upload a video, camera running out of battery and all the fake indignation might just be ploys to buy time to find and hire someone. He spent the entire day today using his sock (TeraHasher), so he clearly depends on this forum for work. With the kind of margin he's getting here, spending a few thousand dollars to establish a fake credibility is a great investment.
Someone should post a link of his design that he sold to Blazeout for $14k on a woodworkers forum to elicit feedback from real professionals.
Wait...WHAT?!?
@TECSHARE read this:
i'm still waiting for the video from WC.
Hi guys, It seems i have been able to find the answer to all my other problems through Bitcoin and its community so here goes another attempt.
I am looking to have a laser engraver engineered that does not suffer from the "straight line" problem.
The straight line problem can be better understood by watching this video
Buying and off the shelf laser engraver means i could only engrave things that are round which have a perfectly straight line to write on, So something like a vase which has curves cannot be engraved as the laser is out of focus on any part of the vase that is not on the focus line.
I would be willing to offer a negotiable fee or bounty to anyone who could solve this engineering problem. You would not need to build the actual machine. Just provide engineering documents and a parts list so i could build it DIY style.
Thanks
I am looking to have a laser engraver engineered that does not suffer from the "straight line" problem.
The straight line problem can be better understood by watching this video
Buying and off the shelf laser engraver means i could only engrave things that are round which have a perfectly straight line to write on, So something like a vase which has curves cannot be engraved as the laser is out of focus on any part of the vase that is not on the focus line.
I would be willing to offer a negotiable fee or bounty to anyone who could solve this engineering problem. You would not need to build the actual machine. Just provide engineering documents and a parts list so i could build it DIY style.
Thanks
i'm still waiting for the video from WC.
The quote above shows WoodCollector uses laser engravers.
This collection of quotes by LazerViking shows WoodCollector lied about his sketching.
There was also another quote where he falsely claimed the lion stock image was provided by his customer after being caught. When the customer denied it, WoodCollector accused the customer of trying to blackmail him.
His claims about the $12,600 pink wood and the great difficulty to obtain it has also been proven to be false. Fluffypony even linked a site where the wood can be obtained for less than $50.
Then there are stories about crafting designs for Hollywood actors, owning three multimillion dollar businesses, selling $300k designs, able to rain hell on people who try to cross him, etc.
Considering all this, and since no one knows what he looks like, what is stopping this scam artist from hiring a real expert carver to masquerade as himself? The unbelievable excuse of taking two days to upload a video, camera running out of battery and all the fake indignation might just be ploys to buy time to find and hire someone. He spent the entire day today using his sock (TeraHasher), so he clearly depends on this forum for work. With the kind of margin he's getting here, spending a few thousand dollars to establish a fake credibility is a great investment.
Someone should post a link of his design that he sold to Blazeout for $14k on a woodworkers forum to elicit feedback from real professionals.
@TECSHARE read this:
i'm still waiting for the video from WC.
Hi guys, It seems i have been able to find the answer to all my other problems through Bitcoin and its community so here goes another attempt.
I am looking to have a laser engraver engineered that does not suffer from the "straight line" problem.
The straight line problem can be better understood by watching this video
Buying and off the shelf laser engraver means i could only engrave things that are round which have a perfectly straight line to write on, So something like a vase which has curves cannot be engraved as the laser is out of focus on any part of the vase that is not on the focus line.
I would be willing to offer a negotiable fee or bounty to anyone who could solve this engineering problem. You would not need to build the actual machine. Just provide engineering documents and a parts list so i could build it DIY style.
Thanks
I am looking to have a laser engraver engineered that does not suffer from the "straight line" problem.
The straight line problem can be better understood by watching this video
Buying and off the shelf laser engraver means i could only engrave things that are round which have a perfectly straight line to write on, So something like a vase which has curves cannot be engraved as the laser is out of focus on any part of the vase that is not on the focus line.
I would be willing to offer a negotiable fee or bounty to anyone who could solve this engineering problem. You would not need to build the actual machine. Just provide engineering documents and a parts list so i could build it DIY style.
Thanks
i'm still waiting for the video from WC.
Wow in the last 2 days this many negative feedback should say something as not all of us are "competitors" of his and are neutral parties with no skin in the game:
nubbins 11: -0 / +6(6) 2015-01-21 0.00000000 Reference
Confirmed scammer and art thief. Misrepresents machine-cut work as being hand-carved so he can charge exorbitant prices. Steals art from real artists and uses it without attribution.
e1ghtSpace 0: -0 / +0(0) 2015-01-23 0.00000000
Sells cheap laser engraved pieces of wood as though they are hand carved. Apparently uploading "proof" in a video on youtube but the URL is not visible. He will probably say his internet cut out in a few hours and he lost all of his upload progress.
fluffypony 3: -0 / +3(3) 2015-01-23 0.00000000 Reference
Everyone is entitled to make a profit in their business. It's even ok to make a fat profit, I don't care. But at 3400% it's a scam.
Mitchełł 17: -0 / +12(12) 2015-01-23 0.00000000
Sells cheap laser engraved wood coins as "hand carved" ones.
smoothie 16: -0 / +9(9) 2015-01-23 0.00000000 Reference
Misrepresented himself as creating original artwork/designs and instead uses clip art off the internet. Refuses to return $200 deposit of user LaserViking despite having misrepresented himself as creating original artwork. Once LazerViking caught wind of this WCollector refused to refund deposit and went on an immature rant of cussing and insulting. Very immature. Has still failed to provide irrefutable evidence that his work is not created with a laser engraver after having several dozen requests for him to provide such evidence. Is selling overpriced artwork that is advertised as original and hand-carved when it is not.
Tomatocage 63: -0 / +31(31) 2015-01-23 0.00000000
Fraud. Peddling cheap laser engraved pieces if wood, advertising them as "hand carved"
Sakarias-Corporation 0: -0 / +1(1) 2015-01-23 0.00000000
i've been making my own Pipes by hand for some years now and its clear that these Creations are Fake. Laser cut.
LazerViking 0: -0 / +1(1) 2015-01-23 1.00000000
This guy stole my money. I commissioned a wood bitcoin from him and down paid 1 BTC. 3 days later, when the truth came out that all of his pieces are designs taken off straight off the internet, I requested a refund. He refused to give my 1 BTC back. The guy is misrepresenting his pieces as original works of art. He asks the customer all sorts of questions about who they are as a person and what makes them tick and how they want piece designed, and says that he will give them a "sketch" of the their description along with what he envisions. But his designs are literally copied right off the internet, down to every little detail. It is a fraud. DO NOT GIVE THIS MAN ANY MONEY.
qwk 8: -0 / +5(5) 2015-01-21 0.00000000
Reference without further evidence I'll regard his works as NOT hand-carved. I consider his claims scam.
danielpbarron -4: -1 / +0(0) 2015-01-20 0.00000000
Reference His response to nubbins` fraud accusation seems dodgy.
BigBitz 22: -0 / +11(11) 2015-01-20 0.00000000
I do not believe he is physically hand crafting these pieces. I am willing to be proved wrong if he posts a video of him performing the carving.
Good now we have a convenient list for when its time for slices of that shit sandwich to be handed out.nubbins 11: -0 / +6(6) 2015-01-21 0.00000000 Reference
Confirmed scammer and art thief. Misrepresents machine-cut work as being hand-carved so he can charge exorbitant prices. Steals art from real artists and uses it without attribution.
e1ghtSpace 0: -0 / +0(0) 2015-01-23 0.00000000
Sells cheap laser engraved pieces of wood as though they are hand carved. Apparently uploading "proof" in a video on youtube but the URL is not visible. He will probably say his internet cut out in a few hours and he lost all of his upload progress.
fluffypony 3: -0 / +3(3) 2015-01-23 0.00000000 Reference
Everyone is entitled to make a profit in their business. It's even ok to make a fat profit, I don't care. But at 3400% it's a scam.
Mitchełł 17: -0 / +12(12) 2015-01-23 0.00000000
Sells cheap laser engraved wood coins as "hand carved" ones.
smoothie 16: -0 / +9(9) 2015-01-23 0.00000000 Reference
Misrepresented himself as creating original artwork/designs and instead uses clip art off the internet. Refuses to return $200 deposit of user LaserViking despite having misrepresented himself as creating original artwork. Once LazerViking caught wind of this WCollector refused to refund deposit and went on an immature rant of cussing and insulting. Very immature. Has still failed to provide irrefutable evidence that his work is not created with a laser engraver after having several dozen requests for him to provide such evidence. Is selling overpriced artwork that is advertised as original and hand-carved when it is not.
Tomatocage 63: -0 / +31(31) 2015-01-23 0.00000000
Fraud. Peddling cheap laser engraved pieces if wood, advertising them as "hand carved"
Sakarias-Corporation 0: -0 / +1(1) 2015-01-23 0.00000000
i've been making my own Pipes by hand for some years now and its clear that these Creations are Fake. Laser cut.
LazerViking 0: -0 / +1(1) 2015-01-23 1.00000000
This guy stole my money. I commissioned a wood bitcoin from him and down paid 1 BTC. 3 days later, when the truth came out that all of his pieces are designs taken off straight off the internet, I requested a refund. He refused to give my 1 BTC back. The guy is misrepresenting his pieces as original works of art. He asks the customer all sorts of questions about who they are as a person and what makes them tick and how they want piece designed, and says that he will give them a "sketch" of the their description along with what he envisions. But his designs are literally copied right off the internet, down to every little detail. It is a fraud. DO NOT GIVE THIS MAN ANY MONEY.
qwk 8: -0 / +5(5) 2015-01-21 0.00000000
Reference without further evidence I'll regard his works as NOT hand-carved. I consider his claims scam.
danielpbarron -4: -1 / +0(0) 2015-01-20 0.00000000
Reference His response to nubbins` fraud accusation seems dodgy.
BigBitz 22: -0 / +11(11) 2015-01-20 0.00000000
I do not believe he is physically hand crafting these pieces. I am willing to be proved wrong if he posts a video of him performing the carving.
Lol buddy you sound really butthurt on so many levels.
Your language of choice says a lot. What do I have to fear?
Being wrong? Please... Lol
Waiting for irrefutable evidence of WC's claims.
It was I who first asked him about his work in early dec 2014 where he so eloquently wanted to take the discussion of his work being compared to laser engraving off of the forum.
See here:
From what I gather from the photos you posted above it seems to me (from what I can see) that your piece looks more like this https://i.imgur.com/CoDNGQm.jpg than this https://i.imgur.com/CoDNGQm.jpg
If I am not mistaken it does look a bit flat from the pictures. Could you elaborate to me how it is not like the first link I pasted above?
Lasers also have the ability to go at different depths. I would imagine other more specialized lasers have the ability to move the laser in a 3-dimensional space to carve out an image like the second link you provided above.
All one would need to do is provide the 3dimensional vector image to the system and it would do something as complex as the second link.
Then again that last part I am just guessing as I have not used a 3d laser (if it exists).
If I am not mistaken it does look a bit flat from the pictures. Could you elaborate to me how it is not like the first link I pasted above?
Lasers also have the ability to go at different depths. I would imagine other more specialized lasers have the ability to move the laser in a 3-dimensional space to carve out an image like the second link you provided above.
All one would need to do is provide the 3dimensional vector image to the system and it would do something as complex as the second link.
Then again that last part I am just guessing as I have not used a 3d laser (if it exists).
Shoot me a PM smoothie, i will go more into detail for you, or do you maybe have skype? I dont want to clutter up the thread with a pages full of talk about the difference between laser engraving and carving. On skype we could have conversation, you could teach me some things i dont know about laser engraving, and i can teach you about the process and results of carving.
People who are butthurt tend to use certain types of language, and yes it appears you are given your language. "Shit sandwich" lol
I've not followed too closely but wasn't there another incident about leaving trust where you got all defensive and didn't get support from people you thought you were entitled?
Even if his claims are true about "hand carved" the guy lied and misrepresented himself in doing original/ custom artwork. Then to use that excuse to steal a customers deposit because the customer was not aware the work was not original. That incident in itself makes the guy a scammer.
See here for evidence:
This was lost in the hard drive crash, but luckily I took a screenshot.
Here's a "master wood carver" who makes ten million dollars a year, calling his detractors fags:
Here's a "master wood carver" who makes ten million dollars a year, calling his detractors fags:
For references to his implication he created origin/custom work see here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10233004
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10232954
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10232822
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10232857
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10232885
@bitspill...that was just an example URL posted by nubbins
Ah, yes, my bad. Guess I wasn't reading closely enough.
If I were Blazedout I would by taking the BTC to an expert appraiser to determine if it is pink ivory. $14k is definitely worth suing someone over, especially if it's a relatively simple case of fraud that only peripherally involves Bitcoin.
I was the guy woodcollecter was going to hire to build the Tor hidden service. Woodcollector told me in a PM he always uses Tor and is "anonymous", so I assume getting his real identity may be somewhat difficult.
To be fair to blazed, I would say that what he purchased probably would be worth nearly as much as he paid for it to a true bitcoin enthusiast because of it's bitcoin theme. The same is true for WC's other work as well. I somewhat doubt that the demand was so high for WC's work because it was "hand made/carved", the demand was there because of it's bitcoin theme. I would say that WC would probably not be able to sell his work for 10% of what he was selling it for if he was able to hypothetically prove he actually does hand carve everything but everything that he made was 100% unrelated to bitcoin.
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1008
Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
@bitspill...that was just an example URL posted by nubbins
to show that YouTube gives you a URL upon STARTING
THE UPLOAD....Which WC photoshopped out apparently.
the fact that nubbins removed the example is irrelevant.
only relevant point is: where is WC's vid?
to show that YouTube gives you a URL upon STARTING
THE UPLOAD....Which WC photoshopped out apparently.
the fact that nubbins removed the example is irrelevant.
only relevant point is: where is WC's vid?
If I were Blazedout I would by taking the BTC to an expert appraiser to determine if it is pink ivory. $14k is definitely worth suing someone over, especially if it's a relatively simple case of fraud that only peripherally involves Bitcoin.
I was the guy woodcollecter was going to hire to build the Tor hidden service. Woodcollector told me in a PM he always uses Tor and is "anonymous", so I assume getting his real identity may be somewhat difficult.
WC locked both his threads so I can't directly quote, so here's a link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10239217
And a screenshot:
http://i.imgur.com/4AgfcfW.png
I am also uploading a video to YouTube. Here is a screenshot of my upload page:
http://i.imgur.com/9Vkcsqn.png
As you can see, YouTube immediately generates a URL for my video, and tells me what it is. This way, I can share the link to my video before the video has finished uploading, so I can get on with my day.
Here is the screenshot WoodCollector just posted of his "video" being "uploaded" to YouTube:
http://i.imgur.com/b2npzQ7.png
As you can see, YouTube imm... wait a minute. It looks like WoodCollector removed the link to his video.
WoodCollector, what is the URL that your video will be live at? You can find out by checking your upload page. It's right there underneath the thumbnail.
Thread unlocked so you can respond.
And a screenshot:
http://i.imgur.com/4AgfcfW.png
I am also uploading a video to YouTube. Here is a screenshot of my upload page:
http://i.imgur.com/9Vkcsqn.png
As you can see, YouTube immediately generates a URL for my video, and tells me what it is. This way, I can share the link to my video before the video has finished uploading, so I can get on with my day.
Here is the screenshot WoodCollector just posted of his "video" being "uploaded" to YouTube:
http://i.imgur.com/b2npzQ7.png
As you can see, YouTube imm... wait a minute. It looks like WoodCollector removed the link to his video.
WoodCollector, what is the URL that your video will be live at? You can find out by checking your upload page. It's right there underneath the thumbnail.
Thread unlocked so you can respond.
Video removed by user.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyBBbIjrOs0
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1008
Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
(I know I said I was done here but can't resist responding.)
tecshare, if you really believe wood collector is going
to produce a video proving everyone wrong then you
haven't been paying enough attention or there is
something seriously wrong with your brain.
tecshare, if you really believe wood collector is going
to produce a video proving everyone wrong then you
haven't been paying enough attention or there is
something seriously wrong with your brain.
We should give him 2 days to finish the video upload. After those 2 days is up, he is definitely a scammer/has something to hide. Too bad, I admired his work.
I would have thought there would be a muppet show of sock puppets defending him by know....
Is the video upload done yet?
I have a feeling there isn't going to be one.
Is the video upload done yet?
If I were Blazedout I would by taking the BTC to an expert appraiser to determine if it is pink ivory. $14k is definitely worth suing someone over, especially if it's a relatively simple case of fraud that only peripherally involves Bitcoin.
I was the guy woodcollecter was going to hire to build the Tor hidden service. Woodcollector told me in a PM he always uses Tor and is "anonymous", so I assume getting his real identity may be somewhat difficult.
If it wasn't very well carved and all. Why didn't blaze get the wood quality verified and atleast get some wood worker to review the piece before paying him out.
It might just be local tree log wood.
If I were Blazedout I would by taking the BTC to an expert appraiser to determine if it is pink ivory. $14k is definitely worth suing someone over, especially if it's a relatively simple case of fraud that only peripherally involves Bitcoin.
I was the guy woodcollecter was going to hire to build the Tor hidden service. Woodcollector told me in a PM he always uses Tor and is "anonymous", so I assume getting his real identity may be somewhat difficult.
If it wasn't very well carved and all. Why didn't blaze get the wood quality verified and atleast get some wood worker to review the piece before paying him out.
It might just be local tree log wood.
Anyone know anyone with the changetip team...I just sent him 1 bit...... lets find out where and who it popped out to....
Jump to: