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February 01, 2022, 09:39:38 PM
#27
I just came through this post. I'm sorry I have been replying since. I was busy with other stuff. I'm sorry.

I will take some time now to respond to this. PLEASE NOTE THIS WILL BE MY ONLY ONE COMMENT TO THIS THREAD. I will not spend more time with this another ridiculous accusation.


looks like this is not the first time Nasterxchange had an issue with other people. sadly just like what the others have said scams are not moderated so there is no chance of him being banned because of it. that being said, if you have convincing evidence you can create a trust flag against him.

I'll refer you to this thread to know what it is and how to create one [GUIDE] Overview of the trust flags and to this thread Request Support (or Opposition) for Flags here! to ask members for support.

Yes indeed, it's not the first time seeing such bullshit accusations here. As far as I know, so far ALL accusations have been non funded! (Remember this!).




I am wondering, whether that money 26k are legal? I mean, you agree with the 13% fee, even you are good if you get "only" 70% money back. at a time when we are all struggling to keep commissions as low as possible, this sounds very generous.


Good Question. As you all know here, I'm a well known Exchanger. Unfortunately, it can always happens that people send me dirty funds, claiming before it's clean and I can't always control this. For the case of the OP, he told me that he would make a clean transfer to the bank account provided. It turned out that the payment was fraudulent and not clean  as it was claiming. At first, I was really thinking that I have been scammed (on my side). After deep verification, it came out that the bank locked that payment.
If the payment was really clean, he could simply reclaim it from his side.
Everyone here should understand what it means.... I won't comment more.
I really wish I received that money, but it's not really the case.
Furthermore, I accepted (at first) to take responsibility for the loss caused, since I was the one in charge of the transaction. I suggested a monthly repayment plan. This was rejected by the OP and instead he went everywhere to blackmail me, post videos and whatever. After his terrible actions, I decided to drop any responsibility I wanted to take on this case.
In fact, this man is a SCAMMER, was trying to use my service to get the money he scammed from others. And I'm really happy it didn't work.
And again, Sorry my friend, I can't help you anymore. You can spend your day by posting whatever you want. There are still few forums where I'm Senior Member, find them and post your shit there.


If it is a bank transaction then you should not lose hope - because you can report everything to the police and your bank and try to get your money back. The only thing that will never be clear to me is why does it even occur to anyone to do transactions like this without escrow?
Yes, he should report everything to police (like my bank did already!) and get "his" money back.



Maybe try to sue the guy who scam you by asking to the authority to track his bank account. He is using a bank to receive money which means his identity is vulnerable once there's warrant to dig on it especially the amount he scam you is a huge amount already. You can use your conversation and forum as evidence against him.
Exactly, but this will work only if he's not the real SCAMMER here. Sorry guys, I don't need to scam 26k.






No one can write in that thread because OP (Naster) locked it. You can see the lock icon at the top of the thread
that's probably because they didn't want unwanted comments in his thread that can derail his business.



If you are scammed, you can create flag 3 on his profile, so you will mark the whole thread with a red warning.
Also, don't forget to post a flag link on here to get support.
I locked my thread a while, before I met this guy. This has nothing to do with him. I simply want to avoid SPAM on my thread. If someone feels I scammed him, he should follow the rules and open a proper scam accusation. SIMPLE!!!
Others have here self-moderated threads. It does not mean, they are  scammers!!



How you can send 26000 euros to a stranger? First of all, You never know who is behind it. You don't them personally. You never met them. How can you send that much amount?

On another forum, Naster is an admin approved seller.

It is very rare for a person to have acquaintances to have a large amount of money and to happen to have an exchange service. But, nevertheless $26k is a huge amount that can turn someone into a criminal even the bank itself is interested in locking up and looking for reasons to source funds. I see Naster's reasoning on other forums that he believes the funds have been locked by the OP's bank account.

For a while I don't know which one is correct until both include screenshots of transactions from their respective accounts, not just conversations. So, I'm not sure that I would support the OP flag if it was created.

Exactly! And he can open a claim on "his" bank account. It's standard these days.



On another forum, Naster is an admin approved seller.

Looks like he was a good trader at the beginning until he probably started scamming. If you look at the earlier feedback by some trusted members. It shows the did good deals with him at the beginning.

If I were OP, I would write to the admin of the other forum as well.

I have been always a good trader, I'm still and I will continue to be. I still trade with respectable members of this forum. Feel free to have your own mind about me  Smiley




He is claiming that funds got locked on that account which I highly doubt, but if thats the case this bank will either release funds after providing some proof or they will issue refund. They will never keep that money, it is against the law.
He can contact his bank to make a claim, they will request it from the receiving bank, and if everything is clean as he is claiming, money should return into his hands.
But as we can see here, with so many posts made, he never gave any details.....




If the claim is false by any chance, then why Naster quiet here?
1) I just saw it today  2) Atm I'm very busy with other stuff  3) I won't invest much time in such accusations. I have been following this the last weeks in other forums. I'm tired of it sorry. And as said, this is my first and last post about this topic. Feel free to continue the discussion.




I think I've seen it on several occasions he confirms this scenario and promises to pay the disputed amount partially, ie from his earnings in future transactions. Naster confirms that on the aspkin.com forum (forum admin verify) also their discussion on the telegram.
he never even tried to dispute, but only complained that it was not his fault for the disappearance of money.

it is still unclear to me. whether that money went to a regular and legal bank? if everything is legal, that shouldn't be a problem to ask for a refund from the bank.
Also, is it legal or illegal money?
in short, OP is scammer, was trying to use my service to process his payments, claiming that money was clean. Later, the payment was marked as fraudulent and some investigation started.
if it's not true what I'm saying, OP can make a RECALL from his side. And if the money was really received and used, the bank from my side would deny the request because of funds missing in the account or could deny also because of investigation running. The receiving bank would provide the reason anyway.
So I'm requesting to OP (who claims to own these "clean" funds) to make this RECALL, publish it here and inform us about the reply coming from the bank on my side.

ONLY AFTER THIS, I WILL POST FURTHER COMMENT. OTHERWISE, THIS CASE IS CLOSED FOR ME.


P.S: I have not been banned from Aspkin nor from any other forum. If I was really a SCAMMER, what would you think what would have happened? What about the OP?
#FindTheError    Wink Wink
legendary
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January 31, 2022, 06:15:42 AM
#26
OP sent funds to this account knowingly or unknowingly that it is Naster partner account which means Naster is fully responsible for the funds. There is no way to chargeback these funds. (At least if it was in € and SEPA bank transfer)

I understand. But, since Naster Claims that the fund wasn't released from OP's bank. OP can provide proof that the fund was released. I know that the bank will never keep the funds. Either they will ask for some proof from the receiver or they will return the fund where it comes from.

I know Naster is lying, but, I guess this is the only way to prove that the OP has released the fund from his bank. Also, OP can ask his bank to make sure if the fund was released or not. I guess he already did. But, I am saying in case he didn't.

I think I've seen it on several occasions he confirms this scenario and promises to pay the disputed amount partially, ie from his earnings in future transactions. Naster confirms that on the aspkin.com forum (forum admin verify) also their discussion on the telegram.
he never even tried to dispute, but only complained that it was not his fault for the disappearance of money.

it is still unclear to me. whether that money went to a regular and legal bank? if everything is legal, that shouldn't be a problem to ask for a refund from the bank.
Also, is it legal or illegal money?
legendary
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Heisenberg
January 30, 2022, 01:25:54 PM
#25
He already wrote to the other forum admin. And as OP said, Naster was kicked from the forum, and his sales thread was locked by the administrator. One more thing is, Writing to the admin not going to help him to return his 26K euro.
But it does help future traders who might stumble upon his thread.

I am still confused about his accusation because, Naster claims that OP's back locked the 26K euro. Not Naster's bank. So based on Naster's claim, he said he didn't receive the 26k. So, How can he send 26K crypto if he didn't received that 26k on his bank?

So I would like to ask OP to provide the proof that you have send him 26K to his bank and it was successfully released. If you have send him 26k and it wasn't released but locked. There's might be a problem.
If you follow the video carefully. Looks like Naster had his partner lock him out of the account. So he should take responsibility.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgUl5XfVm5U

If the claim is false by any chance, then why Naster quiet here?
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January 30, 2022, 07:47:30 AM
#24
OP sent funds to this account knowingly or unknowingly that it is Naster partner account which means Naster is fully responsible for the funds. There is no way to chargeback these funds. (At least if it was in € and SEPA bank transfer)

I understand. But, since Naster Claims that the fund wasn't released from OP's bank. OP can provide proof that the fund was released. I know that the bank will never keep the funds. Either they will ask for some proof from the receiver or they will return the fund where it comes from.

I know Naster is lying, but, I guess this is the only way to prove that the OP has released the fund from his bank. Also, OP can ask his bank to make sure if the fund was released or not. I guess he already did. But, I am saying in case he didn't.
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January 30, 2022, 07:21:11 AM
#23

If I were OP, I would write to the admin of the other forum as well.


He already wrote to the other forum admin. And as OP said, Naster was kicked from the forum, and his sales thread was locked by the administrator. One more thing is, Writing to the admin not going to help him to return his 26K euro. I am still confused about his accusation because, Naster claims that OP's back locked the 26K euro. Not Naster's bank. So based on Naster's claim, he said he didn't receive the 26k. So, How can he send 26K crypto if he didn't received that 26k on his bank?

So I would like to ask OP to provide the proof that you have send him 26K to his bank and it was successfully released. If you have send him 26k and it wasn't released but locked. There's might be a problem.
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January 29, 2022, 09:46:41 PM
#22
The user you have mentioned is negatively trusted by the dt of this forum before your post on the forum even before trading with the user. It is not a wise decision to deal with a unknown person while you will send 26k= dollars. Banning the account and/or giving negative trust will not be helpful for you. As you have sent the fund via bank you can take legal action if the fund is not illegal.
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Heisenberg
January 29, 2022, 11:24:09 AM
#21
On another forum, Naster is an admin approved seller.

Looks like he was a good trader at the beginning until he probably started scamming. If you look at the earlier feedback by some trusted members. It shows the did good deals with him at the beginning.

If I were OP, I would write to the admin of the other forum as well.
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January 29, 2022, 08:29:38 AM
#20
Thats not the case always. OP may have done many smaller transfers and even work with him for a long time and trade more than 26k in total, but when the amount became sufficent enough then other party decided to scam. I am not saying this happened here, but it may have been like this.

I understand what you mean. Even they had hundred of deals before. I would like to tell him, Never go all in until you don't know who is he and you cannot do anything if he does cheat. In this case, Naster did. You will be surprised, even I don't trust Most Trusted exchangers and trading platforms like Binance. I have created a Scam accusation about Binance before. You can check this out (Scam) Binance Block Users Withdrawals - You could be the next Victim. I never Hodl all my balance in One Wallet. I split them into several wallets. So if a Platform does any kind of cheat like Binance did with a lot of Users. I can still be safe from them. So, Never trust too much with your hard-earned money.
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January 29, 2022, 07:46:20 AM
#19
How you can send 26000 euros to a stranger? First of all, You never know who is behind it. You don't them personally. You never met them. How can you send that much amount?

On another forum, Naster is an admin approved seller.

It is very rare for a person to have acquaintances to have a large amount of money and to happen to have an exchange service. But, nevertheless $26k is a huge amount that can turn someone into a criminal even the bank itself is interested in locking up and looking for reasons to source funds. I see Naster's reasoning on other forums that he believes the funds have been locked by the OP's bank account.

For a while I don't know which one is correct until both include screenshots of transactions from their respective accounts, not just conversations. So, I'm not sure that I would support the OP flag if it was created.
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Heisenberg
January 28, 2022, 04:52:30 PM
#18
yes he is the guy, in few days i will follow the instructions given by other user here and try my best to red flag him on this forum.

Hey guys this is his thread here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2417495.200

I am not able to post on his thread, but i badly want to post on his sales thread, there is no option for me to post there, (may be because i am new on this forum?)

or can someone pls post on his thread about how he scammed me? with a link to my thread, I have left all evidence here.
The thread is locked, so no one is able to post in it as of now. That's what scammers do so that no one warns other members about their scam in the thread.

Just create a type 3 flag, and we shall support it. It will display a banner on top of the post warning members about the scammer. Meanwhile. I am also leaving him negative feedback.
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January 28, 2022, 03:21:25 PM
#17
I am not able to post on his thread, but i badly want to post on his sales thread, there is no option for me to post there, (may be because i am new on this forum?)

or can someone pls post on his thread about how he scammed me? with a link to my thread, I have left all evidence here.

No one can write in that thread because OP (Naster) locked it. You can see the lock icon at the top of the thread
that's probably because they didn't want unwanted comments in his thread that can derail his business.



If you are scammed, you can create flag 3 on his profile, so you will mark the whole thread with a red warning.
Also, don't forget to post a flag link on here to get support.
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January 28, 2022, 02:03:23 PM
#16
If admins can ban him from this forum then it will give me some relief and save other users on this forum from getting scammed.

I know i will not get my money back from this scammer, but a ban will be a bit relieving.
Which profile exactly are you talking about?

This? https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/naster-676128

If so, then I am not sure why you have you them with 26K Euros despite some warning feedback from DT members, their forum profile?
Be rest assured that their profile isn'tr going to get banned here.

yes he is the guy, in few days i will follow the instructions given by other user here and try my best to red flag him on this forum.

Hey guys this is his thread here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2417495.200

I am not able to post on his thread, but i badly want to post on his sales thread, there is no option for me to post there, (may be because i am new on this forum?)

or can someone pls post on his thread about how he scammed me? with a link to my thread, I have left all evidence here.

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January 28, 2022, 12:23:47 PM
#15
I am very surprised, as far as I know, if you return to the bank for a refund back to your account, you may be refused, because you voluntarily transferred the money, but you can contact the bank's security service and they may (not exactly) freeze the account, or find out his personal information, but proof is needed here, and I do not know how they relate to cryptocurrencies.
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January 28, 2022, 11:26:25 AM
#14
What? Are you kidding me? I know you are not. But, C'mon dude. I cannot think that you did it. How you can send 26000 euros to a stranger? First of all, You never know who is behind it. You don't them personally. You never met them. How can you send that much amount? Sorry for your loss but you should learn a lesson from this. I always follow some rules before doing any transaction with an unknown person. Either I don't pay first. If I pay, In my case, I would send him a maximum of 100 euro and ask him to complete the deal. If the deal becomes successful, I would do it again with a maximum of 200 euros. In That way, I would increase the amount. You should never do all in. That was the biggest mistake you made.
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January 26, 2022, 01:26:36 AM
#13
Sadly, the forum can't ban that user because you can create account anonymously here. So they won't know this person if he creates his account here. Unless, he will pull off the same scheme using his account so he can be red trusted by users here. Also, why use his services instead of reputable trading platforms like binance?
That was my question to but you've beat me to it by about 2 days. That's the dumbest thing to do in my opinion because, there's a lot of reputable exchanges in existence and they still use this exchanges even though there's a likely chance that they're going to get scammed or have their money taken hostage when it gets so big. This kind of scheme has been done by gambling websites with shady reputation so it's not surprising that exchanges do this. Maybe file a police report about this and see what they can do about it.
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January 25, 2022, 05:34:36 PM
#12
Hey Guys, I am new to this forum but i had to let you know that a seller nasterxchange who sells here as well scammed me 26000 euro.

All the evidence is here  https://www.aspkin.com/forums/account-services/119895-buy-here-bitcoin-your-stealth-paypal-quick-easily-19.html

He has been kicked out of other forum as well.

they have closed down his sales thread.


I sent him 26000 euro to his bank account that he sent me and after that he said he lost access to bank drop and he can not give me crypto.

he stole my 26000 euro.

If admins can ban him from this forum then it will give me some relief and save other users on this forum from getting scammed.

I know i will not get my money back from this scammer, but a ban will be a bit relieving.

That's huge money to be trusted to unknown or not  reputable person and actually forum admins or other people cannot help your case here so I guess this will be another issue which scammers successfully hit a big targets here. Maybe next time researching the feedbacks of individuals and the platform you are own can really help since you can really trust the feedback given here since for sure reputable guys will give their honest inputs of the platform what newbies ask here.
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Heisenberg
January 25, 2022, 04:59:23 PM
#11
If admins can ban him from this forum then it will give me some relief and save other users on this forum from getting scammed.

I know i will not get my money back from this scammer, but a ban will be a bit relieving.
Which profile exactly are you talking about?

This? https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/naster-676128

If so, then I am not sure why you have you them with 26K Euros despite some warning feedback from DT members, their forum profile?
Be rest assured that their profile isn'tr going to get banned here.
legendary
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January 25, 2022, 03:21:47 PM
#10
I am unfamiliar with the aspkin.com forum. It seems to deal with eBay, PayPal and other accounts of online payment services.
I don't understand however, how is it possible to trust a forum user so much without using any escrow service? Can anyone explain to me what exactly this is all about?

One more thing @steve6732, why is the fee associated with your fiat-to-crypto exchange so high? Couldn't you just use a centralized exchange instead? Was there any money laundering involved?
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January 25, 2022, 11:27:27 AM
#9
Maybe try to sue the guy who scam you by asking to the authority to track his bank account. He is using a bank to receive money which means his identity is vulnerable once there's warrant to dig on it especially the amount he scam you is a huge amount already. You can use your conversation and forum as evidence against him.
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January 25, 2022, 11:21:09 AM
#8
I sent him 26000 euro to his bank account that he sent me and after that he said he lost access to bank drop and he can not give me crypto.
I know i will not get my money back from this scammer, but a ban will be a bit relieving.

If it is a bank transaction then you should not lose hope - because you can report everything to the police and your bank and try to get your money back. The only thing that will never be clear to me is why does it even occur to anyone to do transactions like this without escrow?



I am wondering, whether that money 26k are legal? I mean, you agree with the 13% fee, even you are good if you get "only" 70% money back. at a time when we are all struggling to keep commissions as low as possible, this sounds very generous.

Good question, it looks a little weird that someone agrees to such bad conditions just to maybe avoid KYC on some exchange.
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