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Quote from: suzanne5223 on December 27, 2019, 11:37:40 AM

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Quote from: Winscosinally on December 20, 2019, 08:00:26 AM

Scammers don't have to give huge promises anymore, believe me they are among us and they know how smart investors have become too, they always reshape their tactics, now projects don't have to give too good offers because they know people are aware that too good to be real offers are scam, honestly scammers are not idiots

People keep saying good projects always have good team and brilliant ideas to solve crypto issues, who tell you that scammers can't deliver all this?

Of course, scammers have become more intelligent and can promise and do everything in order not to differ from others and even seem better than others. However, all this will not help them avoid sooner or later exposure. Moreover, if they are 100% scammers, then they will definitely be punctured somewhere and the community will quickly bring them to clean water. Of course there is no guarantee that we will be able to identify fraudsters 100%, but this once again confirms that investing in cryptocurrencies is more risky than investing in other industries.

You're right because their purpose is to steal and in order for them to achieve that they can go extra height. However, it hard to identify fraudster because they are numerous in number and work as a team but they are not that smart as people think because they literally make some silly error which why some scam project are exposed in the scam and accusation section.

They are very clever, they have studied so much what people want to hear from them, they are very good in expressing their opinions, in explaining the project and doing hype in the community, they even hire so much admins to looks like that they are growing team but at the end they will dumped on the price and run away.

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Quote from: ven7net on December 27, 2019, 09:48:38 AM

Quote from: Winscosinally on December 20, 2019, 08:00:26 AM

Scammers don't have to give huge promises anymore, believe me they are among us and they know how smart investors have become too, they always reshape their tactics, now projects don't have to give too good offers because they know people are aware that too good to be real offers are scam, honestly scammers are not idiots

People keep saying good projects always have good team and brilliant ideas to solve crypto issues, who tell you that scammers can't deliver all this?

Of course, scammers have become more intelligent and can promise and do everything in order not to differ from others and even seem better than others. However, all this will not help them avoid sooner or later exposure. Moreover, if they are 100% scammers, then they will definitely be punctured somewhere and the community will quickly bring them to clean water. Of course there is no guarantee that we will be able to identify fraudsters 100%, but this once again confirms that investing in cryptocurrencies is more risky than investing in other industries.

You're right because their purpose is to steal and in order for them to achieve that they can go extra height. However, it hard to identify fraudster because they are numerous in number and work as a team but they are not that smart as people think because they literally make some silly error which why some scam project are exposed in the scam and accusation section.

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Quote from: Winscosinally on December 20, 2019, 08:00:26 AM

Scammers don't have to give huge promises anymore, believe me they are among us and they know how smart investors have become too, they always reshape their tactics, now projects don't have to give too good offers because they know people are aware that too good to be real offers are scam, honestly scammers are not idiots

People keep saying good projects always have good team and brilliant ideas to solve crypto issues, who tell you that scammers can't deliver all this?

Of course, scammers have become more intelligent and can promise and do everything in order not to differ from others and even seem better than others. However, all this will not help them avoid sooner or later exposure. Moreover, if they are 100% scammers, then they will definitely be punctured somewhere and the community will quickly bring them to clean water. Of course there is no guarantee that we will be able to identify fraudsters 100%, but this once again confirms that investing in cryptocurrencies is more risky than investing in other industries.

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Quote from: Ipwich on December 27, 2019, 08:02:23 AM

Quote from: b1boy on December 27, 2019, 02:13:03 AM

Con artists likewise changes their methodology how to deceive individuals or how to make them fall in their snares, that is the reason a ton of investors and bounty hunter previously surrendered from taking an interest in new Project these days since it is useless, so it is smarter to center in different things to procure more crypto like participating in Few reasonable projects but nothing is promised anymore its all gambling

That seems to be a smart thing. Many crypto investors and bounty hunters been fooled by their broken promises. If that is the way the could catch those blinded individuals, then they probably win the competition. What is most important here is that we are able to accept our mistakes and make a way that we're not going to become a victim again.

experience becomes important here, therefore when we make a mistake then do not give up and keep trying again but on condition that we have to develop more knowledge so as not to be stuck again in the next mistake. and always think logically so that we can better distinguish between the original project and also the fake project, at least we must think logically in determining

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Quote from: fauzan Ichsan on December 27, 2019, 08:15:41 AM

bitcointalk participants did provide information to the investors, so the project would get a lot of funds from it. but indeed at the moment of the first listing the price is the same as the price of ico then they already profit from the discount given, but sometimes greed takes it

however, bounty hunter only helps to spread information about the project and does not help ensure that the project is really good and profitable. the rest I think is our role in analyzing the project whether it's good or not. if it's good then we can join, and if not we can leave it. there is no compulsion in this forum.

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Quote from: kaneki007 on December 27, 2019, 01:20:11 AM

Quote from: asus09 on December 25, 2019, 06:34:01 AM

We can make scammer become stupid by never investing with their project and make big announcement for public about their project are scam, maybe many people get scam because they don't get information about this project before investing. We can make scammer frustrated when their project is not interested and not sold out to public, the scammer have lost much money with advertise their coins.

I think that there have been many bitcointalk members who have contributed to providing complete information of scam projects and that has helped many investors. It's just that there are investors who are greedy because they want to get a large profit or a large bonus offered by the scam project

bitcointalk participants did provide information to the investors, so the project would get a lot of funds from it. but indeed at the moment of the first listing the price is the same as the price of ico then they already profit from the discount given, but sometimes greed takes it

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Quote from: b1boy on December 27, 2019, 02:13:03 AM

Con artists likewise changes their methodology how to deceive individuals or how to make them fall in their snares, that is the reason a ton of investors and bounty hunter previously surrendered from taking an interest in new Project these days since it is useless, so it is smarter to center in different things to procure more crypto like participating in Few reasonable projects but nothing is promised anymore its all gambling

That seems to be a smart thing. Many crypto investors and bounty hunters been fooled by their broken promises. If that is the way the could catch those blinded individuals, then they probably win the competition. What is most important here is that we are able to accept our mistakes and make a way that we're not going to become a victim again.

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Con artists likewise changes their methodology how to deceive individuals or how to make them fall in their snares, that is the reason a ton of investors and bounty hunter previously surrendered from taking an interest in new Project these days since it is useless, so it is smarter to center in different things to procure more crypto like participating in Few reasonable projects but nothing is promised anymore its all gambling

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Quote from: kaneki007 on December 27, 2019, 01:20:11 AM

Quote from: asus09 on December 25, 2019, 06:34:01 AM

We can make scammer become stupid by never investing with their project and make big announcement for public about their project are scam, maybe many people get scam because they don't get information about this project before investing. We can make scammer frustrated when their project is not interested and not sold out to public, the scammer have lost much money with advertise their coins.

I think that there have been many bitcointalk members who have contributed to providing complete information of scam projects and that has helped many investors. It's just that there are investors who are greedy because they want to get a large profit or a large bonus offered by the scam project

You are right, people might be already know risk behind all this token sale. But they really attracted by the offer or maybe bonus that they can get especially if they are early bird or maybe buy it before public token sale. With that, already enough to make people believe they don't need to wait ICO price to take profit, and it is really attract a lot of people to be investor.

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Quote from: Winscosinally on December 20, 2019, 08:00:26 AM

Scammers don't have to give huge promises anymore, believe me they are among us and they know how smart investors have become too, they always reshape their tactics, now projects don't have to give too good offers because they know people are aware that too good to be real offers are scam, honestly scammers are not idiots

People keep saying good projects always have good team and brilliant ideas to solve crypto issues, who tell you that scammers can't deliver all this?

They can deliver a seemingly good team in the project, but if they are good the community are better, and with the way things are going on crowdfunding, I doubt investors will be interested, in more new coins, there are coins that look good and coming from reputable company, but they cannot even reach their soft cap, this is enough proof that investors had enough and they are more on the coins that are listed in the exchange.

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Quote from: asus09 on December 25, 2019, 06:34:01 AM

We can make scammer become stupid by never investing with their project and make big announcement for public about their project are scam, maybe many people get scam because they don't get information about this project before investing. We can make scammer frustrated when their project is not interested and not sold out to public, the scammer have lost much money with advertise their coins.

I think that there have been many bitcointalk members who have contributed to providing complete information of scam projects and that has helped many investors. It's just that there are investors who are greedy because they want to get a large profit or a large bonus offered by the scam project

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Quote from: zhengqi on December 25, 2019, 05:39:01 PM

I think the crooks will still be one step behind us. We come up with new ways to protect ourselves and if we constantly develop, we can not be deceived.

In some ways we are smarter than them but why they still doing it, maybe because they could still hit someone without knowledge. It obviously that some of us here never know how the scam works, not even recognized that he even dealt with them by now. There is a lot of awareness around but somehow they are blinded enough for scammers offering which is really enticing to hear. Even me, I was a victim before but I'd learn it and couldn't happen again.

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Quote from: desticy on December 23, 2019, 11:25:54 AM

What you are talking about has already happened in 2017. The largest scams were indistinguishable from real cool projects, and that is why they managed to collect a huge amount of investor money.
As a result, it was a huge surprise for everyone when such projects turned out to be a scam. Now this has become more widespread due to the difficulty of luring investors into traps of this kind.

And that is the most dangerous aspect of those projects, scammers are so smart that now it is impossible to tell if a project is legitimate or if it is a scam and I do not know about you but I'm not willing to take the risk of investing in a project that will later turn into a scam.

And I think I am not the only one thinking about this possibility because since 2017 the market of new projects has been in a clear crisis in which new projects are having problems attracting investors precisely because of that issue.

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What is really worth fearing is hacking exchanges.
The practice of recent days shows that there is almost no exchange capable of completely defending itself from hacker attacks.

This means that any exchange may be at risk, and therefore our funds located there.
In addition, not all exchanges reveal their vulnerabilities that led to the possibility of hacking, which does not allow others to take advantage of their experience and eliminate vulnerabilities on their part.

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Quote from: doctor877 on December 25, 2019, 03:59:36 PM

Change is constant , never expect things to remain the same for long. Scammers are evolving so they keep trying new things . This still dosent mean you won't be able to recognize them. That always bring a way that seems too easy and bypass protocols. This is one way to know that it's them.

This is true, as the technology evolves and the people using these technology, I guess we need to upgrade also our knowledge, skills and technology on dealing with these people. Much better if we will have the edge to overpower what they are doing right now. We should be ahead of them everyday.

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I think the crooks will still be one step behind us. We come up with new ways to protect ourselves and if we constantly develop, we can not be deceived.

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If scammers can be smart, you too can be wise, because wisdom is more profitable than smartness. There are certain measures you need to put in place at all times, to avoid any form of loophole through which scammers can get into your system. If well put in place, then you can be free from them.

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Yes, partly but telegram scammers are still learning work as Thier skills are well known unless it's only newbie that can fail to that but project scammers are skillful so takes wisdom to outsmart them if not their assurance will really make one fall for it.

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Most scammers are complete idiots. Sometimes they use such bad methods of deception that it is not clear who can believe it at all. Only a small part of them are really talented people who simply use their skills in the wrong direction.

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Change is constant , never expect things to remain the same for long. Scammers are evolving so they keep trying new things . This still dosent mean you won't be able to recognize them. That always bring a way that seems too easy and bypass protocols. This is one way to know that it's them.

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