Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 195. (Read 845650 times)

Everything you have said involves your religion and is about your religion, the one that believes in a God. That's what a religion is, dear brain dead christian. Get used to it, you will never get away by labeling your shit science, it is not, you are not a physicist and you have almost 0 understanding of the few laws that you have heard of and abuse so much. What you are, however, is a religious fanatic, one that would do and say anything only to justify his lack of knowledge by claiming a God. You made it mandatory, your God, you actually believe that we should know your God exists, or else we are retards, liars and other things. Next step is to say we are infidels and off with our heads. The ignore button shall not have its way here, because you are something that I will hunt down and bitchslap every time I have an opportunity to do so. I did my scientific rebuttal for your bullshit, but talking science to you is like buying condoms for fleas. It's absurd and a waste of time. That is why my message to you is fuck off you child molesting religious fanatic.

I'm sorry, I believe you have an authority problem. You may decide for yourself whatever the fuck you want, that's why it's called a belief. However, the fact that you believe the testimony of people who experienced NDEs proves afterlife and God does not mean it actually does and the rest of the world, including people who research this profesionally must listen to you and must believe the same as you. Scientists have concluded it is not enough, some of these scientists are also religious. You can believe whatever, they are not evidence, case closed.

Actually NDEs and reincarnation cases as well as other related phenomena can be considered to be objective experiences. The lack of quantitative methods does not prevent one from concluding that survival is real, I conclude that survival is the simplest explanation for the totality of the evidence based on over 100 points and cases, if you have an open mind then you will look into them and see for yourself.

What? You never heard of the ignore button? Don't like what I say? Use the ignore button.

I don't think you are understanding the idea of science. Nothing that I have said is about religion. At the same time, most of what you have said is about religion.

It's a reasonably free forum. This is why you can get off-topic in this thread so much.

If you don't think science proves the existence of God, use some scientific rebuttal to show it. Oh that's right. You do, don't you. It's called "political science" which says that all you have to do is out-talk someone else to be right, and even lie when you can get away with it.

I am sorry, atheism does not claim moral laws or to know exactly what is the cause of the existence, therefore it acts as truth by admitting the lack of knowledge. Religion does not admit to that, it claims to know precisely who created us, why and when. Of course not all atheists are rational since not all people are rational but that doesn't affect our subject with anything. As for the link you have provided, my dear friend, the first comment says absolutely everything about it. It simply explains to you why NDEs are not scientifically valid proofs of the after life or God because of the lack of information. Maybe one day, science will be able to track down and measure these NDEs and will find a clear answer, whatever that answer would it be. But until then, they are not considered proof for near death experience or God.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is the poison of religion and to even consider such a mindset, morally you are on the same level with Islam. You either admit that God is real, or you are wrong. That is the capacity of religious fanatics after thousands of years of evolution, to impose their view on the world, to have it as they want it, to act like Gods do. No God in any religion has met perfection, almost all of them are tyrannic, dictatorial, slave owners. They kill at their will, they condemn thoughts, they interfere with free will and if you do not acknowledge them, you'll suffer for eternity. They also love you somehow. Of course, religious people have their ways of cherry picking the writings about Gods, especially nowadays when morality has evolved. Religious people could not go against scientific research, that would have been madness, so instead of that, they went ahead and claimed each and every scientific research proves how great their God is, without any evidence of a God of course. We can clearly observe how Badecker, without any proof to back him up, gives a ultimatum for his claim: you either believe in his God, or you are wrong. There is no way he could be wrong even though he has absolutely nothing but assumptions based on physical an natural laws which he so badly interprets. Yet, he finds that he has the authority to impose his delusional view on each and every human being on this planet. That is how religion has poisoned and is still poisoning humanity. Someone once asked Christopher Hitchens where does evil come from, if there is no God, to which he replied with 'religion'. Take a while and think about that.

P.S. Badecker here wonders why do I bring religion into subject so often. Well, it's simple: religious people are defined as those who believe in a supernatural creator, they have faith that creator exists, that it made the whole world and us. Atheists, on the other side, are exactly the opposite of that, so calling atheism a religion is like calling abstinence a sex position.

Well, atheism is a position that does not act like truth
It certainly cannot clarify the evidence of survival research; where is the explanation for all 100 proofs that I gave? Survival is apparently a fact of reality and many lines of evidence unite in establishing this. I already proved that atheism is impossible to reconcile with the evidence.

Furthermore,
Are all atheists rational? If so then they would reject all spiritual thinking. But this position is not supported by the evidence.

Since there is scientific evidence of Survival it suggests that all humanists are wrong about their core belief that "you only live once".

Good reading about survival evidence:
https://www.quora.com/Is-this-supportable-evidence-to-life-after-death-and-even-God

Actually, you only have two choices. Either you know that God exists, or you don't know if He exists or not. Why? You either understand my proof and the evidence of nature that prove He exists. Or you understand that you don't know that He doesn't exist.

Nobody can know that God doesn't exist. Why not? Because nobody has checked every spot in the universe to see that God isn't there. He would have to be God, Himself, to be able to check out the whole universe to see if God was off in some other galaxy doing some other stuff.

Because of this, anyone who says that God DOESN'T exist, is retarded, hasn't thought it through, or is lying. Which one are you?:
1. Retarded;
2. Haven't thought it through;
3. Lying.

You don't seem to be retarded. After all, you write eloquently enough, and with some knowledge and understanding.

By now, after all the discussions that we have had, you must have thought it through... at least somewhat.

That only leaves lying. For whatever reason, you find it purposeful to lie.

Come on, now. Admit that you know that God might exist somewhere in the galaxy that you haven't examined closely, yet.