Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 196. (Read 845582 times)

I'm sorry, I believe you have an authority problem. You may decide for yourself whatever the fuck you want, that's why it's called a belief. However, the fact that you believe the testimony of people who experienced NDEs proves afterlife and God does not mean it actually does and the rest of the world, including people who research this profesionally must listen to you and must believe the same as you. Scientists have concluded it is not enough, some of these scientists are also religious. You can believe whatever, they are not evidence, case closed.

I don't think you read or understood what I said, but I shall make it short in order to stop wasting both our times. For decent people, it precisely demonstrates the poison of religion through your example. As for you, it says 'Fuck off, you are a piece of shit that imposes his religion to people. You do not deserve attention you christian whore.' Science does not prove God and most probably never will. Amen and case closed with this retard.

Besides, if NDEs are not simply demon spirits playing with a person's weakened mind as he is near death, then they are probably only ancestral memories superimposed on electrons that have been passed down form the parents, and locked into neuron DNA of the dying person, and are being read by the mind of the dying person as he becomes more sensitive to tiny things near death.

Actually NDEs and reincarnation cases as well as other related phenomena can be considered to be objective experiences. The lack of quantitative methods does not prevent one from concluding that survival is real, I conclude that survival is the simplest explanation for the totality of the evidence based on over 100 points and cases, if you have an open mind then you will look into them and see for yourself.

Take your 2,300 year-old world-view back to the Flat Earth thread where it belongs, you mentally stunted nigger.

The only time people can agree is when they say that they don't agree. Otherwise they have a difference of opinion at least a little.

It will be necessary to unite with believing people and a test who believes in a flat land. I would like to see how they agreed.

Besides, exemplaar would see the same thing on flat earth or globe earth if he used the things that the Bible says. So, it's irrelevant for the flat earth topic, and certainly off topic here.

There you go, again, talking religion. Get back on topic and talk science. And, not the science of religion. Rather, as the topic title says, the science of the proof for the existence of God.

You are so religion oriented that you can't even talk science. Look at the scientific proof for God here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Take your religion talk over to one of the religious threads.

Get out of here monkey, for real. That's the trolling area, now fuck off over there.

You want scientific proof that God exists?

Go and research flat earth! https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.19009786

I am sorry, atheism does not claim moral laws or to know exactly what is the cause of the existence, therefore it acts as truth by admitting the lack of knowledge. Religion does not admit to that, it claims to know precisely who created us, why and when. Of course not all atheists are rational since not all people are rational but that doesn't affect our subject with anything. As for the link you have provided, my dear friend, the first comment says absolutely everything about it. It simply explains to you why NDEs are not scientifically valid proofs of the after life or God because of the lack of information. Maybe one day, science will be able to track down and measure these NDEs and will find a clear answer, whatever that answer would it be. But until then, they are not considered proof for near death experience or God.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is the poison of religion and to even consider such a mindset, morally you are on the same level with Islam. You either admit that God is real, or you are wrong. That is the capacity of religious fanatics after thousands of years of evolution, to impose their view on the world, to have it as they want it, to act like Gods do. No God in any religion has met perfection, almost all of them are tyrannic, dictatorial, slave owners. They kill at their will, they condemn thoughts, they interfere with free will and if you do not acknowledge them, you'll suffer for eternity. They also love you somehow. Of course, religious people have their ways of cherry picking the writings about Gods, especially nowadays when morality has evolved. Religious people could not go against scientific research, that would have been madness, so instead of that, they went ahead and claimed each and every scientific research proves how great their God is, without any evidence of a God of course. We can clearly observe how Badecker, without any proof to back him up, gives a ultimatum for his claim: you either believe in his God, or you are wrong. There is no way he could be wrong even though he has absolutely nothing but assumptions based on physical an natural laws which he so badly interprets. Yet, he finds that he has the authority to impose his delusional view on each and every human being on this planet. That is how religion has poisoned and is still poisoning humanity. Someone once asked Christopher Hitchens where does evil come from, if there is no God, to which he replied with 'religion'. Take a while and think about that.

P.S. Badecker here wonders why do I bring religion into subject so often. Well, it's simple: religious people are defined as those who believe in a supernatural creator, they have faith that creator exists, that it made the whole world and us. Atheists, on the other side, are exactly the opposite of that, so calling atheism a religion is like calling abstinence a sex position.

I really believe in God  and The universe and human had been created by God .

Well, atheism is a position that does not act like truth
It certainly cannot clarify the evidence of survival research; where is the explanation for all 100 proofs that I gave? Survival is apparently a fact of reality and many lines of evidence unite in establishing this. I already proved that atheism is impossible to reconcile with the evidence.

Furthermore,
Are all atheists rational? If so then they would reject all spiritual thinking. But this position is not supported by the evidence.

Since there is scientific evidence of Survival it suggests that all humanists are wrong about their core belief that "you only live once".

Good reading about survival evidence:
https://www.quora.com/Is-this-supportable-evidence-to-life-after-death-and-even-God

Actually, you only have two choices. Either you know that God exists, or you don't know if He exists or not. Why? You either understand my proof and the evidence of nature that prove He exists. Or you understand that you don't know that He doesn't exist.

Nobody can know that God doesn't exist. Why not? Because nobody has checked every spot in the universe to see that God isn't there. He would have to be God, Himself, to be able to check out the whole universe to see if God was off in some other galaxy doing some other stuff.

Because of this, anyone who says that God DOESN'T exist, is retarded, hasn't thought it through, or is lying. Which one are you?:
1. Retarded;
2. Haven't thought it through;
3. Lying.

You don't seem to be retarded. After all, you write eloquently enough, and with some knowledge and understanding.

By now, after all the discussions that we have had, you must have thought it through... at least somewhat.

That only leaves lying. For whatever reason, you find it purposeful to lie.

Come on, now. Admit that you know that God might exist somewhere in the galaxy that you haven't examined closely, yet.

No, atheists do not expect God to be proved by science. They actually do not expect anything to prove God, since they don't believe in it. Nothing can, actually, prove God since the only way God proves himself is through revelation. Otherwise, even God claims it, it's a matter of pure faith and nothing else more. That is why this topic is flawed from the beginning, it's just deist or creationist topic. The only one keeping it alive and running is the deluded Badecker with his proof of cause and effect, this law of nature that nobody else has ever heard of before. We must kneel to him, because he finally discovered it! Bring in the Nobel Prize!

Yes, Arno Allan Penzias was Jewish, he believed in God, he also believed Jesus was not Messiah and a real Messiah ought to come one day and save us all from evil. He was raised Jewish, no scientific research could change his mind set, his dogmatic view of the world and it didn't really matter. He found traces of the Big Bang and he believed in God. The God thing remained a belief even when he said it might be a supernatural plan. The difference between him and Badecker, for example, is he didn't tell the world he found the proof for God, because he didn't. But the most important thing is that it is irrelevant that this physicist believes or not in God. He wasn't alone, Robert Woodrow Wilson was the co-discoverer, he did not believe in a God. Does that mean anything? No. The founder of the Big Bang theory was a catholic priest and he strongly believed this might collapse religion. The pope told him there would be no such thing, he could make it be a dogma in which everyone would have to believe in. Did it matter that he was a catholic priest? Did that change the truth of the theory? No, it did not. Truth acts the same everywhere, scientific discoveries are the same everywhere because they carry truth, based on evidence, on proof. However, something that does not act the same everywhere is religion, the one claiming to hold the truth. There you have a difference between religion and truth. What do you call something that does not act like truth and is not the same everywhere?

There are already much proofs to be specific scientific proofs of god being a fake fairy tale story which is believe by some people,dont include me there because i still believe in god

https://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/eminent_researchers#researchers_penzias