Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 93. (Read 845587 times)

even if big bang was true, where did it happen? you dont get an answer, you just postpone it. its a religion

Well if you're saying scientific there's tons of scientific churches that would love to discuss that time is relative to the amount of years our date is at (2017 years before christ).

Next time read, otherwise you are going to look stupid. I'm not the believer, badecker is, the ''you are going to hell'' thing is a joke, next time please, take the time to actually read.

BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG LOL.
That's a whole "new level". So dishonest/liar people will go to hell and not heaven? Like SERIOUSLY? First of all it's not clear the existance of a "God", second it's much less clear the existance of after-death life.
Also who started that idea of heaven and hell were the religions. Christians and bible or whatever say that God forgives. If it forgives, he "will send you to hell" if you are dishonest? Like wtf?
And what kind of sick game is that? So "God" is sitting on his big chair, drinking a beer while playing with our lives? You did a good job, when you die you desearve clean clothes, a lot of food, 100 virgins, etc? Bro.. we are in 21th century, not in the middle age. Wake up please. Witches don't exist lol You guys need to start thinking a bit outside the box. Think for yourself and not for others.

with we noticing how the complexity of the order of cells that exist in living things, especially human beings, are perfectly composed, is it not enough for us who are reasonable to believe that God exists, because there is nothing in this world that happens to be, unless there is already a designer all this ,, that is the most intelligent god who is capable of doing everything ..

https://www.quora.com/Does-G%C3%B6dels-Incompleteness-Theorem-prove-the-existence-of-God
https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/8475/g%C3%B6dels-ontological-proof-and-the-incompleteness-theorem
https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/7013/g%C3%B6dels-theorem-and-god?rq=1


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The difference between me and you is that I actually take time to review your ''arguments'' and debunk them. The only thing you can do about my arguments is saying ''simply circular reference blabber.'' over and over again as if that would change anything. You are dishonest and a liar, god will not send you to heaven if you continue like this.

The most interesting is that we are already confused where we came from.
But if we believe in God then from Adam and Eve, so to speak from one person. But if you believe in scientific evidence, then from monkeys.

The goodness of GOD is the scientific method that  GOD exists
The air, water and place we had is the best gift of  GOD
to us, the life we are enjoying is a cery precious gift from GOD
Without GOD we are nothing in this world. A very visible proof is alive
and our great provider

Religion tells us that God created Adam and Eve. After the disobedience, they were cast out. It was then told that Adam knew his wife Eve and they gave birth to Cain and Abel (which were male and male). So, in my own understanding, the creation should have ended there. But after Cain killed his brother, it was also told that he found himself a wife from another land(now, where did the other woman come from?).
So, the existence of God and the creation of man still remains a mystery. For me, no science can prove the existence of God.

Life continues to be one of the greatest miracles. It’s hard to deny God’s reality when you think about the process of birth – that two beings can come together and create life, a process that is complex from the moment of conception. While there are over seven billion people living in this world, no person has the same finger print. While identical twins share the same genetic components, they are unique individuals.

That's not a "Proof for god's existence". I mean, i understand your point and i do agree with you 100% in what you've said in those 4 links you posted, if it was it would be recognized in the scientific community, and this thread would not exist.
But having a further reading regarding Newton's 3rd Law and the cause-effect you're trying to explain, it starts making sense that some high-level entity (that we call "God"), created all of that. But that also bothers me.. I mean, you said that:
And as a programmer, it's not hard to figure out that 100% random doesn't exist. I mean you can't say to a machine to give you a random number. The machine needs to rely on something. But having a deep thought on "random" in our lives, thoughts, actions,etc. i keep getting some questions regarding "destiny". Well, the actions we have, where we are looking, the words we say, basically everything we do, it seems normal.. our brain is "guiding us".. but i did had some awkards feelings and thoughts regarding this.. like: Is this "me" that's making me to look to the floor.. and stuff like this. Like if our decisions weren't made by us by "random" stuff.. Like i'm in a road and there are 2 exits. Left and right. These awkward feelings/thoughts start showing up and I'm in the right lane, but then i want to go to the left lane because i want to draw my destiny, but then i realize what if the path that was already made and the left lane was the correct one since the beggining? Same applies for all my previous actions since my birth.. Quite confusing, i know. Like Elon musk said once: "The strongest argument for us being in a simulation, probably being in a simulation, is the following: 40 years ago, we had Pong, two rectangles and a dot…That is what games were. Now, 40 years later, we have photorealistic 3D simulations with millions of people playing simultaneously, and it’s getting better every year. And soon we’ll have virtual reality, augmented reality. If you assume any rate of improvement at all, the games will become indistinguishable from reality.".
Same applies for a possibility of having a single copy of us (in other universe) with all different paths that we would have on this life. So in 1 universe i would go to the right lane, on this i went left, on other one i would turn around and went on the opposite direction ,etc etc.
I also sometimes think on this deeply, and i keep myself saying stuff like: "WTF am i doing here?", "Am i the only one thinking that it's weird all this shi*? How can you go to sleep and tomorrow go to work normally, without knowing wtf are you doing here, who brought you here (and those 6yr old kid questions, why sky is blue, etc etc)". Seriously.

But you haven't been able to prove God doesn't exist. Your rebuttals to the proof that He does are simply circular reference blabber.

I did it for you many times, but your IQ just ain't got what it takes... just like it isn't great enough to scroll through this thread and look at all the proofs I have shown.

Again, the evidence of the existence of anything points to the existence of God. But when we use science to understand how complex everything is, while having no known method whereby it all came into being, then science shouts "God."

Proof for God's existence:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

And that is just a little start.

Besides. How do you know what anybody was thinking way back in the beginning. Religions contend that all people knew God for at least a few hundred years following the beginning.

If u think in a God as some1, so then he dont exist. But if u think in God as the totality, that we are part of God, then God exist

God exists in His Own faith much more than He exists in the faith of believers.

Besides. It's very difficult to simply believe in anything that there is no evidence for. For example. Believe that a suitcase full of $20 bills is suddenly going to appear in the middle of your living room. Difficult to do. But if your buddy the bank robber calls, and says he will be right over with the suitcase full of money that is your share, then it is a little easier to believe.

The point is, God understands how weak our faith is. But He DOES want us to have faith. So He shows us that He exists in some ways, and tells us what He is going to do, so that we see He is there by knowledge, but still have to have faith in Him.

God only exists in the faith and belief of people who believes that he is very real.And though science doesn't have any evidence show otherwise when you look at creation itself yoy will know that God himself exists.

Well my opinion on this topic is pretty complicated.

Does god exist? Well it might. I'm a "see to believe" guy. There's no proof that he exists, but this can be a pretty long talk regarding this. God may not be how we think he is or how we think he looks like (human form, etc).

Since the beggining of mankind, humans started to ask some questions like: "Why i am here?" and "Why the sky is blue and not yellow?", etc. As you know, a long time ago when there was an earthquake, humans thought gods were angry, or when solar eclipses happened they thought that was the "Last Judgment" and other stuff like that. Now we do know why earthquakes happen and solar eclipses too (and it's not gods work obviously :p). Mankind started to use "God" as a "excuse" for unexplained things. But the question still remain.. "Why are we here?" "What's the purpose of life?", and many other questions similar to this ones.
The universe is large. We are a very (very very very very very very very very) tiny portion of the universe. Do other civilizations exist? Hell yeah, why not? Will we ever know why are we here and what's our purpose? Not really. I mean we don't have enough "capacity" (IQ, or whatever you want to call it) to fully understand some things. I mean, what's behind the universe? Is it "infinite" ? Is it not? We don't know. But this all looks like a paradox. Think on the chicken and the egg "problem". Who went first? I mean to have an end, you need a beggining, right? But what came before that beggining? Did it just do a "click" and "boom", it's there? As i said, we'll never know.. we don't have that "capacity". Like you can talk about 4 dimension and all that stuff, but we still don't know.. Do we have a "destiny" or we do our own destiny? Well another complicated question. Of course something happened to create all of this.. but what was that? And why do people think it's gods work? You can talk about the big bang, but what was before the big bang? "nothing" ?? .. doesn't make sense because we don't have the "capacity".
Did you ever thought that we could be in a small universe? I mean, think in a water drop. What if we are in a universe at the size of a water drop (in some other universe) and every water drop is a different universe? It's all possible. A lot of you may think it's not, but that's because you live on this universe and you were raised like this. For you, the empire state building is huge, or the burj khalifa, right? And an ant is small, right? Well that's our "sense of grandeur".. We are in the solar system, then we have the milky way and after it's a lot of other galaxies and stars, whatever, that are millions of light-years far away from us. But for people like us, that's "huge", what if it isn't in another universe? Our universe could be a single atom in others universe. This is very complicated, and we all should live our lifes the best way possible. We don't know why we are here and what's our purpose, but we created a society and we should fit on it, born, go to school, get a job, marry, get kids, whatever, and die. Its how it works. We could even be in some kind of "matrix".. A lot of stuff can be possible.

This is a bit of my thoughts regarding this topic..

Theres no prof that god exist because god is only a fiction and a myth

Wasn't there a more pointless article? It literally has no proof of anything really. Evolution and Faith

Evolution is a contentious subject in American public life. According to Pew, 98 percent of scientists connected to the American Association for the Advancement of Science “believe humans evolved over time”

Isn't this article supposed to be for god not against it?