Topic: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining - page 363. (Read 750572 times)

I asked Marcelo and he said they were running Gridseed chips.

Doing some math, they would need 13,076,923 Gridseed chips to = 850GH/s

I also asked if it was the G-Black, and he said no, it was a custom build.

G-Blacks are 400 chip machines. If he had those it would take 32692 G-Blacks to = 850GH/s

I do see your point, although unless you personally know the person in question, you can't say for a fact say what his actual goal is.  He could be Saint Marcelo .  Either way I never said it isn't a ponzi in any of my statements.  I was pointing to Possible Hypothetical situations of How the Money could be coming in.

Why would he go to all the trouble of creating this fictitious 'investment' scheme in order to pay 'investors' from income he's making, say, gun running, or drug dealing, when the simple truth is that he can do exactly what he has done which is to lie about having 850GH/s and get everybody all excited about it so they refer their friends and can conveniently have an 'auto invest' option to save them any effort on keeping whatever money they send in to remain in while those who absolutely have to cash out can be used as small examples of how he is so *totally* legit and not a scam?

All the while manipulating the trading environment of the fictitious 'KHS' so that newbies think they are actually buying and selling something of value, when it is just numbers on a screen.

It never actually becomes anything until you withdraw, but people are inclined to keep on sending it straight back in to the scheme so they can compound their 'profit'.

Do you get it yet?

Ponzi scams work so simply on human greed, there is no need for the operators of them to be earning actual profit from schemes on the side in order to cover the withdrawals, as hardly anyone actually keeps the money outside when they *know* they will make so much more by sending it back in along with all the other newbs being conned into joining the 'investment' scheme.

1) Buy an Antminer S5 from Bitmain and run it at home.
2) Open an online store and sell something for bitcoin.

I love having the back and forth with you too .  Either way yes I know the 850 GH/s is, based on the Math incorrect, I think I did say something about that in my original post actually.  I think you mis-understood my point, and or I am just not getting my point across correctly with my wording.

My point is only this, Math dictates that the 850 GH/s is totally incorrect and that I except as fact.  I was trying to say there is a possibility that the funds, being from Brazil and all, could be coming from other sources.  In no way am I saying that would make this any better, just saying it is a possibility.

Me personally, if it doesn't come back up I don't care.  I put what I wanted into that and if it goes poof it is whatever to me.  Always having back up to Highly Probable Scams is something that I think anyone who is investing anything into this realm should do.

I did read the post. My point is that if he's lying about the 850 Gh/s, which he obviously is, then the entire premise of your beloved "KHS" is a lie and likely so is everything else. "We don't know what we don't know," is a hilarious response to all of this. We do know he's not mining with 850 Gh/s, which is the entire foundation of your "investment." Feel free to continue trying to find legitimate portions in this giant web of scammery. It's funny to watch.

Read the post dude, don't read the 1st two paragraphs and jump down my throat, thank you.  I did state that he could be doing "Other Things" to make up for the lack of the stated Hardware.

Also said at the End of the Day, We Don't know what we don't know period.

I am pretty sure the Higher ROI with Hashnest was the PaCmiC Version 1, Version 2 has a lowered Bonus Rate.  Also I think you get better ROI with the Machines rather than the PaCmiC because you can Trade MH/s on the Market at whatever price you set.

I know you're not getting paid jack shit this week, and likely into the future, because things based on lies beget other lies. Maybe Marcelo will be the first cloud scamming operator to "recover" from the "hacks" but I wouldn't bet on it. And if you think it's not too inconceivable for one company to own and operate 850 Gh/s of Scrypt hardware you're only proving your own ignorance on the subject of mining.

ThePhwnr will know who I am from this comment alone lol.  The end all be all argument of everything can be summed up in this statement, You Don't Know what You Don't Know.  Plain and simple, we Do not know what hardware scrypt.cc has and there is no proof.  Second for all we know, being in Brazil, he could be doing "Other Things" to make up for the lack of the stated Hardware.  

If machine's like Ares Miner 256 MH/s actually exist, wouldn't be too inconceivable to have the stated 850 GH/s.  Yes, I know, the "Math" doesn't add up on things, just saying.

Either way, only time and patience will say whether the site comes back up or stay's down.  Yes, I know it is also entirely possible from some people's point of view that the whole thing is a Ponzi and would make some sense with that argument as well.

All I am saying is at the end of the day, You don't know what you don't know.

As far as "proven" Cloud mining, there is Genesis (SLOW ROI), Hashnest (A bit better than most on ROI), Mining Sweden (Not Sure of their ROI honestly, also fairly new still so not 100% certain with this one),  I think there are some others out there but their ROI's are really slow.

Investment sites, I am going to guess probably 90% are ponzi's, you Can try BTER at 10% yearly Interest Rate.

If you really want to make money though with Bitcoin I think the better option is to play the Markets, granted that is time consuming, Or you could always try Loan sites Like BTCJam or BTClend, basically you invest in someone's loan and they pay back in whatever interest rate is set.

Well.., you can just buy BTC and hodl.. You'll hardly be making *decent BTC* by doing nothing just investing in a business of someone else.. You know what I mean..
If you want cloudmining try Hashnest or Bit-x though don't expect miracles.. You can try to find an altcoin which looks undervalued in your opinion and try to hold it short-mid term and sell afterwards. And these ponzi sites like this one is almost the same as gambling.. In gambling they have provably fair at least. This site can't prove anything about being legit or fair..

Can someone tell me the profit for hashnest ?

By my calculation profit is only 3% for a contract that last around 105 days (total ROI 103%), that's nothing... because the profit is only the bonus.

genesis-mining.com
bit-x.com
cloudmining.sg
bit-miner.com

are a lot better.

Try this one  to be honest this one is about the only one i would trust or send any one to they also sell the miners at a reason able price .


There hard ware https://bitmaintech.com/product.htm

There cloud mining service .https://www.hashnest.com/


you can still make lots mining in your home but it will cost at first and you may have to remodel a room in your house etc . if you home mine  id try to run at least 10 TH  all the time to make a fair a mount fast . o yea  reinvest some of those BTC here for more hash

https://www.miningrigrentals.com/

Me too, i think that at this moment the only good cloud mining service (real cloud mining) is Hashnest.

 

Thanks! I´ll start workin on its aquisition. Through the Bitmain site it´s not that expensive but you have to buy the PSU separately eh? Do people daisy chain link more than 1 of these up to make something worthwhile or what? 1155GHs only caps out at about $1k/yr

hashnest.com and stakeminers.com
~ 0,3%/day

At this moment, best option is the Bitmain S5
However, a reputable company, SFARDS (formerly Gridseed) is releasing the SF100 which is looking really good.

S5's direct from Bitmain. Anything else won't be profitable in the longer term.

EDIT: there's profitable Scrypt HW in the wild but it's all second hand at this point. So eBay, etc. are the place for that. I would suspect to see some Sfards soon, someone will pony up for the 100 MOQ.

You can also invest your BTC in a dice site's bankroll - This person has an ongoing comparison going on here, albeit it's a month out of date.

http://www.bitcoin-dice-guide.com/dice-investment-comparison/