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sr. member
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CCMINER.NET
September 17, 2015, 07:34:08 PM
Wow still here talking about this shit show!
At least is there somebody trying to find the admin motherfucker??
hero member
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September 17, 2015, 06:09:44 PM

Right now the MHs held by users is only worth 165 BTC since the price of MHS is currently at .00033 BTC / MHS.  


Can I ask where did you get this data from?
How do you know how many total MHS there are in the ledger, both for sale and in individual accounts not for sale?


From the 850 gh/s of total mining power of course. Roll Eyes

But he spectacularly missed my question and got straight down to the task of attacking others. Seems too preoccupied in having the same arguments over and over.
Forget the 6Ths thing. I have never stated that and I am not interested in that particular aspect.

To be clear, my question is:

regarding the 165BTC claim, where did you get this data from?


The Admin (when it was Marcello Santos) claimed that 500 GHs had been sold to users and that they had 350 GHs mining for the partners.    

Now 500 GHs is a large number for scrypt mining.   That is the number I was using.   500 MHs * best ask price.

The 500 GHs is also consistent with the amount of orders on the ask book and is also possible from the size of the BTC deposited into the site threw the 2 hotwallets.   So it is the best number we have right now.    It also goes back about five or six months when scrypt.cc was clearly selling KHs (later converted to MHs.)    

An additional data point that I don't have any direct evidence for it polling has been done on IRC and it came up with the people responding owning a little over 200 GHs.   That was on the scrypt.cc channel and one could ask about it there.  

Since the hack, the nature of scrypt.cc has changed a lot.   This has nothing to do with if it was a scam before or not, it is just what has gone on there recently.   First there was the withholding earnings for about a weeks, then the 20% only payment that has gone down and down, and additionally a series of thefts that has resulted in a 1/3 reduction in the already greatly depressed rewards.   On top of this the one thing that normally worked well, withdraws, now only works in a "random" and insanely slow fashion.   I have to wonder if there hasn't been an ownership change since the hack.   For the record, I'm not claiming the site was legit before the hack.   I'm just not sure Marcello is still the "Admin" as he used to talk with people often, although he did disappear for around seven months, mostly this time last year.   Still the site wasn't as bad last year.


Deposit Hotwallets
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https://blockchain.info/address/19mcjofGwKxGwhaZwDwPjdWd1KrFCZgoJJ    (6000 BTC & growing)
https://blockchain.info/address/1HWqsgnSd12Gv8SpoUMi1Cj8hp79BTSpW7   (38657 BTC)
sr. member
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September 17, 2015, 05:57:55 PM
Yes the scrypt.cc problem can be very relevant to a single person.    I'm sorry to hear about your problems.

There could be many cold wallets with BTC in them.   When mentioning wallets addresses are useful, otherwise it could be just any wallet. 

My problem is very small in comparison to some other people.
A guy lost 15 BTC. Other invested their life savings.

And yes, that is of course stupid.
But imagin that there are people who have access to the Internet only a few hours a day.
Or just do not have the time, knowledge or simply ability to gather information.


I feel sorry for who have heard of the 'great new breakthrough technology', and were then ripped off from such a lousy rat.

I have tagged the cold wallet adresses @ blockseer.com
https://www.blockseer.com/address_labels?title=SCRYPT.CC%20COLD%20STORAGE

You need a account to view them.

It's a good tool to track the Hotwallet transactions.
hero member
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September 17, 2015, 05:40:55 PM
As far as scams go, scrypt.cc is really small compared to LTCgear, GAW or Mt.Gox.   

Small is relativ. When you consider that there are still 1900 BTC in Cold Wallet. ($430.852)
And that's just from the new Hotwallet.

But it really makes no difference how much it is. Stolen is stolen.

My account has been locked by the way. Shows "password invalid".
The reset option no longer exists.

But never mind, i'm done with that shit.
Just wanted to mention it.

No attack, but anyone who doubts that this project is a huge fraud, obviously has severe mental problems.

Yes the scrypt.cc problem can be very relevant to a single person.    I'm sorry to hear about your problems.

There could be many cold wallets with BTC in them.   When mentioning wallets addresses are useful, otherwise it could be just any wallet. 
hero member
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September 17, 2015, 05:30:16 PM

The could be the source of the 6 THs.  It simply isn't a valid point to be using.

Then why do you keep bringing it up?

I haven't downplayed anything.  I simply don't share the same views.   I find your use of vulgar language and insults to be also tiresome.     

As far as scams go, scrypt.cc is really small compared to LTCgear, GAW or Mt.Gox.   That doesn't mean that someone wasn't hurt a lot worse at scrypt.cc than others by those scams.    However what is going on is the people on the extreme end of the scam scale are unhappy with anyone not as extreme as them.    Since the "hack", scrypt.cc has been a complete scam and I haven't said it is legit.   Pretty amazing how much I'm attacked just because I don't suck up the scam police.   Cool

Hahahaha, this is why I figured if he isn't a shill then he's got to be socially autistic in order to explain how he repeatedly states something and then contradicts it a few sentences later, all the while repeating things that are irrelevant to the discussion and ignoring aspects that are important.

BTW, dyask, a 'tone complaint' is just another form of blatantly fallacious argument which is used to distract from the fact that you fail to rebut the points being raised and choose, instead, to complain about how they are said.

You're being challenged, not because you don't 'suck up to the scam police' but because your posts are largely nonsensical ramblings containing contradictions and irrelevant statements along with assertions which appear to be an attempt to downplay the size of the scam that is scrypt.cc


What of any value have you ever added to this thread?    Attacking someone doesn't provide any value.  (While using a run-on sentence, Mr grammer policeman.)

Your post is actually a nonsensical rambling.    You claim I contradicting myself but fail to point out what the contradiction is.    So much for your logic.
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Invest your BTC
September 17, 2015, 05:19:03 PM
Can I get an honest answer? I tried to withdraw 0.3 like a week ago and it took 4 days and then it was just recredited back to my account. I tried doing it again and right now it still says it's in the queue. If it recredits it back should I just try to withdraw them in like increments of like 0.03 or something? Thanks. I used to use scrypt.cc a bunch and it was great but now it's just bullshit with the whole withdraw issue.

You will receive it like I had.

3 out of five I received.

The other two got reinvested again which is OK though, no worries, life is a scrypt.
member
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September 17, 2015, 02:29:12 PM
As far as scams go, scrypt.cc is really small compared to LTCgear, GAW or Mt.Gox.   

Small is relativ. When you consider that there are still 1900 BTC in Cold Wallet. ($430.852)
And that's just from the new Hotwallet.

But it really makes no difference how much it is. Stolen is stolen.

My account has been locked by the way. Shows "password invalid".
The reset option no longer exists.

But never mind, i'm done with that shit.
Just wanted to mention it.

No attack, but anyone who doubts that this project is a huge fraud, obviously has severe mental problems.
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same. when try to login. shows: password invalid. scrypt.cc scam
newbie
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September 17, 2015, 02:24:31 PM
Can I get an honest answer? I tried to withdraw 0.3 like a week ago and it took 4 days and then it was just recredited back to my account. I tried doing it again and right now it still says it's in the queue. If it recredits it back should I just try to withdraw them in like increments of like 0.03 or something? Thanks. I used to use scrypt.cc a bunch and it was great but now it's just bullshit with the whole withdraw issue.
legendary
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https://bpip.org
September 17, 2015, 12:03:08 PM
mattmorrison over at GH:

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Good news and bad news, good news is I finally got into what was my large account, bad news is it does only have 4 MH and all the btc is gone. Checked withdraws, it does not show that BTC leaving my account, checked trade history, it does not show all my KHS being sold. Full on internal thievery is my conclusion.

Shame on that douche and shame on me for focusing on profits instead of legitimacy :wink:

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Welp it wasn't too crazy but 250 MHS, I was unable to log in since the whole "Change your password" event, and a few weeks ago I noticed on my little account that the referral went from 250 to 2, so that is when it was cleaned out, again no transactions show in the withdraws or on trade.

Also my previous deposits/withdraws show up, so it is not "the database" being messed up.
https://gyazo.com/7a8cc16344e80938ceed6ddecffe96302
https://gyazo.com/7efef5c0dd4bab7b8f48f691249e28eb1

https://forum.gethashing.com/t/ponzi-scrypt-cc-shorted-payouts-missing-mh-the-lot/1761/1644
sr. member
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September 17, 2015, 11:54:30 AM
As far as scams go, scrypt.cc is really small compared to LTCgear, GAW or Mt.Gox.   

Small is relativ. When you consider that there are still 1900 BTC in Cold Wallet. ($430.852)
And that's just from the new Hotwallet.

But it really makes no difference how much it is. Stolen is stolen.

My account has been locked by the way. Shows "password invalid".
The reset option no longer exists.

But never mind, i'm done with that shit.
Just wanted to mention it.

No attack, but anyone who doubts that this project is a huge fraud, obviously has severe mental problems.
legendary
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Thread-puller extraordinaire
September 17, 2015, 11:30:32 AM

The could be the source of the 6 THs.  It simply isn't a valid point to be using.

Then why do you keep bringing it up?

I haven't downplayed anything.  I simply don't share the same views.   I find your use of vulgar language and insults to be also tiresome.     

As far as scams go, scrypt.cc is really small compared to LTCgear, GAW or Mt.Gox.   That doesn't mean that someone wasn't hurt a lot worse at scrypt.cc than others by those scams.    However what is going on is the people on the extreme end of the scam scale are unhappy with anyone not as extreme as them.    Since the "hack", scrypt.cc has been a complete scam and I haven't said it is legit.   Pretty amazing how much I'm attacked just because I don't suck up the scam police.   Cool

Hahahaha, this is why I figured if he isn't a shill then he's got to be socially autistic in order to explain how he repeatedly states something and then contradicts it a few sentences later, all the while repeating things that are irrelevant to the discussion and ignoring aspects that are important.

BTW, dyask, a 'tone complaint' is just another form of blatantly fallacious argument which is used to distract from the fact that you fail to rebut the points being raised and choose, instead, to complain about how they are said.

You're being challenged, not because you don't 'suck up to the scam police' but because your posts are largely nonsensical ramblings containing contradictions and irrelevant statements along with assertions which appear to be an attempt to downplay the size of the scam that is scrypt.cc



legendary
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September 17, 2015, 10:10:51 AM
Considering you were claiming there was around 6 THs, I would say the Admin was much more honest on that point.

Hmmm... no, I was not and no, he was not. Looks like you still can't participate in a discussion (lack of which you decried just recently) without making shit up.

You were justifying the 6 THs, not me.   Hmmmm ....

I was not. I think I clearly stated how ridiculous 6 TH/s is (4 times Scrypt hashrate).

The could be the source of the 6 THs.  It simply isn't a valid point to be using.

Then why do you keep bringing it up?

I haven't downplayed anything.  I simply don't share the same views.   I find your use of vulgar language and insults to be also tiresome.     

As far as scams go, scrypt.cc is really small compared to LTCgear, GAW or Mt.Gox.   That doesn't mean that someone wasn't hurt a lot worse at scrypt.cc than others by those scams.    However what is going on is the people on the extreme end of the scam scale are unhappy with anyone not as extreme as them.    Since the "hack", scrypt.cc has been a complete scam and I haven't said it is legit.   Pretty amazing how much I'm attacked just because I don't suck up the scam police.   Cool

... and all that is based on the current value, right? So let's see. Current value of Mt. Gox assets? Probably close to zero. Tiny scam. Current Paycoin marketcap? 250k USD, significantly larger than Mt. Gox apparently but still fairly minor. Current value of LTCGear assets? Zero (your own estimate). Not a scam at all.

Since the "hack" - so what happened to all that mining if it wasn't a scam before the "hack"? Did hackers steal the farm?
sr. member
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September 17, 2015, 09:47:58 AM

Right now the MHs held by users is only worth 165 BTC since the price of MHS is currently at .00033 BTC / MHS.  


Can I ask where did you get this data from?
How do you know how many total MHS there are in the ledger, both for sale and in individual accounts not for sale?


From the 850 gh/s of total mining power of course. Roll Eyes

But he spectacularly missed my question and got straight down to the task of attacking others. Seems too preoccupied in having the same arguments over and over.
Forget the 6Ths thing. I have never stated that and I am not interested in that particular aspect.

To be clear, my question is:

regarding the 165BTC claim, where did you get this data from?




PS. It is a moot point, but has anyone else noticed that you cannot place a sell for more than 0.00034999? well you can, but it will not appear in the sell side.
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September 17, 2015, 09:33:41 AM

Right now the MHs held by users is only worth 165 BTC since the price of MHS is currently at .00033 BTC / MHS.  


Can I ask where did you get this data from?
How do you know how many total MHS there are in the ledger, both for sale and in individual accounts not for sale?


From the 850 gh/s of total mining power of course. Roll Eyes
hero member
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September 17, 2015, 09:30:56 AM
Actually, dyask, I believe the 6TH observation came at the point scrypt.cc had switched from 'khs' to 'mhs' but seemingly hadn't adjusted the figures being displayed on the market listings yet.

So, yeah, your whole obsession about trying to minimise, downplay and generally distract from the ongoing fraud with wildly speculative assertions about how 'most' btc had been withdrawn already, as though you have any fucking idea where those btc were sent, is getting really tiresome and painting you more and more as being either socially autistic or a shill trying to downplay the the size of the criminal scam which is still in operation.

The could be the source of the 6 THs.  It simply isn't a valid point to be using.

I haven't downplayed anything.  I simply don't share the same views.   I find your use of vulgar language and insults to be also tiresome.     

As far as scams go, scrypt.cc is really small compared to LTCgear, GAW or Mt.Gox.   That doesn't mean that someone wasn't hurt a lot worse at scrypt.cc than others by those scams.    However what is going on is the people on the extreme end of the scam scale are unhappy with anyone not as extreme as them.    Since the "hack", scrypt.cc has been a complete scam and I haven't said it is legit.   Pretty amazing how much I'm attacked just because I don't suck up the scam police.   Cool
legendary
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September 17, 2015, 09:20:33 AM
Actually, dyask, I believe the 6TH observation came at the point scrypt.cc had switched from 'khs' to 'mhs' but seemingly hadn't adjusted the figures being displayed on the market listings yet.

So, yeah, your whole obsession about trying to minimise, downplay and generally distract from the ongoing fraud with wildly speculative assertions about how 'most' btc had been withdrawn already, as though you have any fucking idea where those btc were sent, is getting really tiresome and painting you more and more as being either socially autistic or a shill trying to downplay the the size of the criminal scam which is still in operation.
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September 17, 2015, 09:00:30 AM
Considering you were claiming there was around 6 THs, I would say the Admin was much more honest on that point.

Hmmm... no, I was not and no, he was not. Looks like you still can't participate in a discussion (lack of which you decried just recently) without making shit up.

You were justifying the 6 THs, not me.   Hmmmm ....
legendary
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September 17, 2015, 08:57:09 AM
Considering you were claiming there was around 6 THs, I would say the Admin was much more honest on that point.

Hmmm... no, I was not and no, he was not. Looks like you still can't participate in a discussion (lack of which you decried just recently) without making shit up.
hero member
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September 17, 2015, 08:49:25 AM

Right now the MHs held by users is only worth 165 BTC since the price of MHS is currently at .00033 BTC / MHS.  


Can I ask where did you get this data from?
How do you know how many total MHS there are in the ledger, both for sale and in individual accounts not for sale?


He's just multiplying 500 GH/s by the current price. Because admin would never lie and would never sell more fake MHS.

Considering you were claiming there was around 6 THs, I would say the Admin was much more honest on that point.   Anyway, it doesn't take much effort to verify 500 GHs is much more likely than 6 THs.   Since the conversion there has rarely been more than 100 GHs on the asks.   Right now there is probably about 35 GHs up for sale.  

Also there is a small but important point that we know how much BTC has been deposited at the site. ( < 45000 BTC over the two deposit hotwallets)  That really sets the upper bounds of what was sold.   500000 MHs at .01 BTC/MSH is 5000 BTC with is believable.  (.01 BTC/MSH is actually a low end value, probably closer to 8000 BTC, plus that isn't counting the GPU KHS. )   I know there will be some pretty stupid math using all the BTC from the hotwallets, most likely most of that BTC was already withdrawn.   Withdraws worked well until a couple months ago.

As far as who said what, right now we don't even know if Marcello is the Admin or if there even is an Admin.  That is pretty grim.  

Deposit Hotwallets
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https://blockchain.info/address/19mcjofGwKxGwhaZwDwPjdWd1KrFCZgoJJ    (6000 BTC & growing)
https://blockchain.info/address/1HWqsgnSd12Gv8SpoUMi1Cj8hp79BTSpW7   (38657 BTC)
sr. member
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September 17, 2015, 08:42:45 AM

Right now the MHs held by users is only worth 165 BTC since the price of MHS is currently at .00033 BTC / MHS.  


Can I ask where did you get this data from?
How do you know how many total MHS there are in the ledger, both for sale and in individual accounts not for sale?


He's just multiplying 500 GH/s by the current price. Because admin would never lie and would never sell more fake MHS.

Strange, as that would mean taking admins word for the 500 GHS, but not taking the admins word for the additional 350 GHS, but let's give dyask a chance to answer.
 
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