Topic: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining - page 82. (Read 750579 times)

So, your position is: everyone should know it's a scam, therefore you don't need to worry that something you say might encourage people to invest? But other people, people posting clear warnings, they're in some way wrong? Is that a fair assessment of your position?

“Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”   ― Mark Twain

Anyway to get back to your point.   No matter what anyone thought about scrypt.cc in the past, since the hack it has been scam.   I don't think anyone thinks the post-hack scrypt.cc is legit.    The people here posting scam over and over are basically like a dog chasing its tail.     

Spin doctor?

My point was to get you to explain the purpose of your post. But I think you know that.

I'm not trying to protect anything (I'm not connected in any way with scrypt.cc's competitors) beyond people who might invest in scrypt.cc (as I considered doing at one point). Scrypt.cc isn't "clearly dead". As you say, there are still deposits going in. And while that happens, other, larger investors may be tempted to deposit. Smaller investors may be tempted to deposit more than they can afford.

Anyway, if I understand you correctly, when you said "Maybe the fires will be stoked up again, but right now the embers are barely glowing.   No one there probably thinks of it as an investment anymore, it is just a game at this point.   It no longer matters if it is a scam or not.   That time is past." - that was because you believe everyone believes scrypt.cc is a scam, and you believe that your belief in everyone else's belief is valuable information that we'd benefit from?

So you're saying that since YOUR personal loss in scrypt.cc is smaller than your loss in LTCGear that means scrypt.cc should be left alone? Because as a TOTAL 200 BTC surely sounds more than 0 (your estimate of current LTCGear "investment" value). But if scrypt.cc is dead to you then you're more than welcome to stop kicking it and start making up excuses for why Chris is taking so long to design his fancy heatsinks.

You also completely missed the fact that scrypt.cc is still presenting itself as a "functioning" site. Hopefully this thread will reach at least those who google the site before sending their money.

Spin doctor?   What is your point?   What are you trying to protect?   Pointing out something is dead needs toning down?   Seems like the only thing I did was stomp on some sense of self worth.   

I simply pointed out that scrypt.cc is now tiny.   Very little going in, very little coming out.    It is a real scam for some stuck there, but it isn't like there are hoards of investors breaking down the doors to get there.   For the people that have been scammed, it is probably time to focus on if a recovery is possible.   However that is a different sort of game. 

1) How is pointing out something is basically dead defending it?  Maybe you are upset because I pointed out something you hadn't thought of?  

2) I have enough "invested" with LTCgear that it is worth some type of legal recovery.   The value of my MH/s at LTCgear is really zero at this point, vapor unless I feed him 129 BTC.   (Close to the current size of scrypt.cc)    Chris "owes" me more than 30000 LTC, you do the math, but it is more than a few BTC!    

There are probably people that have lost enough at scrypt.cc to organize some kind of legal recovery.   We'll see what happens with that.   In the meantime enjoy kicking the dead guy!   Heck you are still kicking Josh from GAW too even though there is a good chance he is headed to prison.    Maybe you should start kicking Mt. Gox too?   Mark could use some love as he is sitting in a Japanese jail waiting for his trail.  There is greater than a 90% conviction rate in Japan.  

Well I guess there is a chance that scrypt.cc will come back.  If it does or doesn't, it won't likely because of anything posted in this thread!  Just being a little pragmatic here.  

Marcelo is responsible for every aspect of the MHS value, from rewards to the ability to withdraw.

It's a great cop out - make the site as dysfunctional as possible instead of simply running away with the money and then blame the "market" for devaluing everyone's "investments".

Doesn't make it less of a scam, but nice try.

Marcelo created the market and sold his hash.
That doesn't mean he's responsible for the prices.
I can sell MHS at whatever price I wish.
So can you.

Well, remember the post where I asked you what purpose it served? And then I asked again? And again? And see how when ddalex asked me the same question, I answered? I guess that's what I mean by holding to account.

As far as I know you're not causing a riot, and I've seen no vulgar language (and wouldn't care if I had). Your posts appear naive, but I'm fairly certain you're not naive. Your posts put a positive spin on negative situations, and that's what I'd like to see toned down.  Comments like this...


... serve to minimise the issue. It may not matter to you, but it matters to other people. While scrypt.cc portrays itself as "cloud mining" it doesn't much matter what you and I realise, or think, or believe, it is.

By all means think for yourself. Just don't be surprised when you put your thoughts in writing and other people - also thinking for themselves - question you. Otherwise we'd end up with people running around saying all sorts of nonsense (I'll avoid breaking Godwin's Law by making a historical comparison).

So... what purpose did your post serve?

oh really?
what created the KHS market in the first place?

Marcelo is not responsible for the MHS prices.
It's a market and users set the prices.

Is that your new angle of defense for this scam? If someone had invested X and admin scammed them for Y (via outright theft and devaluation of KHS/MHS) then X - Y being a small amount means everybody should just walk away?

Will you walk away if Chris says tomorrow that your "shares" and "boards" are worth 40k satoshi per MH/s and you'll only get them if new BTC deposits are sufficient for him to pay it out?

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why this thread still life ?

It's a play on Doge memes. I started mining around the time Dogecoin was booming (end of 2014).

I don't think that's naive. If this thread is left to dyask and ThorSWO one might think that scrypt.cc is perhaps just having some temporary issues. This thread needs eloquent rational posters like LMGTFY to provide a different perspective.

From my last 25 withdraw requests, only 1 has been executed. The rest were returned to sender. And one - for 10 BTC - was marked as processed/executed but never received.

I don't think you've understood what I'm saying. My original point was that not everyone lives in the First World, and for those people (who don't live in the First World) 25c may well be a lot of money. Additionally, there are also people in the First World - in the UK for example - for whom 25c is significant.

Some people will certainly disregard warnings. Other people will miss warnings, or see posts such as yours, and not realise just how risky scrypt.cc is. Another group will do due diligence and avoid it like the plague. Amazingly, not everyone is the same. People live in different parts of the world, have different standards of living, and have different expectations. For many people "cloud mining" has an entirely different meaning to "gambling", for example.

One thing many people do have in common, despite everything else, is language. Many Africans use French on the Internet, for example. English is far more widely used, particularly among people from Asia. Dig deeper into the English voices, and many times you'll find someone from India.
   
In the UK - and in other countries where lotteries are legal - lotteries are regulated to ensure that they're run fairly and that the lottery operator pays out when they've promised to pay out. I don't find that particularly outrageous. And lotteries tend to be marketed as "lotteries", not "cloud mining" or something similar.

What practical purpose did your post serve? (Sorry, I realise this is the third time I've asked this question but I'm hopeful that if I keep asking it in slightly different ways you might answer).

Hmmm sorry the UK isn't a 1st world country? ... I thought it was.  

Seriously?   If people are investing in scrypt.cc with money that is important to them, then warnings aren't going to address that issue.   The amount doesn't really matter.  

As far as where I hear about people screaming over tiny amounts.   Well I read about it in English in various crypto forums.    

I doubt there are legal lottery tickets anywhere in the world that can be bought for 0.001 BTC right now.   Now that is also throwing your money away!   Where is the outrage and the postings against that?    

Anyway get back to your happy warning posting if you want.   I was just being practical.   As far as scrypt.cc goes, the BTC is gone unless something drastic changes.   There isn't any real amount of BTC going in and there isn't much coming out.    Most of the BTC is simply gone.   

I thought your issue was that the amounts involved now were insignificant (I disagreed). If that isn't, in fact, your view then I apologise for misinterpreting your original post.

Well, my argument was that this affects people outside the First World. I'm not sure I'd go as far as saying this isn't a First World issue - there are people in my city where 25c is a lot of money (I live in the UK, where the main opposition party has just elected a leader on an anti-austerity ticket. I suspect my city is worse off than many UK cities, but poverty is increasing in the UK).

Not sure what you're saying here, or how it relates to my point. I'm concerned for people who have or who are considering paying into scrypt.cc, not random others with "free" electricity.

Ah, I clearly don't have access to the same data you do. Could you link me to it? Thanks!


I'm not posting warning after warning: I'm challenging anyone who attempts to minimise or obfuscate the risks. Realise all you like, and posting here is your right, but if you post your thoughts expect to be challenged. Back to my original question - what do you get out of your post?

Respectively, anyone that has access to scrypt.cc has a great deal more than $.25 invested in that access.   That isn't a first world issue.   Sure kids haven't paid anything, but someone has paid for them.   All the time I hear about people mining with "free" electricity.   Get real, someone is paying the real costs.   Also most of the people screaming about tiny amounts of BTC are from first world countries.  

In fact at nearly 500 pages, the information is in the thread.   The constant drone of warnings is just noise at this point.   Not that there is a lot of other information in this thread.    

It is your right to post warning after warning and believe you are changing the world.  It is also my right to realize how silly and pointless it is.