… and am happy to see you have chosen bitmessage channels…
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Welcome
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Topic: [SDC] ShadowCash Uncensored: Zeuner, Zero Knowledge, Zero Trust. What Happened? (Read 23477 times)
May 03, 2016, 05:16:14 PM
So this is the graveyard for deleted posts now? Fair:
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Welcome
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bitmessage=shadowchat
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Welcome
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To be clear:
An unapologetically wholesale rip-off of other men's work (as shadowchat is to bitmessage)
Some friendly advice:
1. Rewrite the whitepapers for ShadowSend and ShadowChat
2. Get peer reviews.
3. Start testing publicly.
April 15, 2016, 07:26:23 AM
SDC is a good coin backed with constant development.
April 14, 2016, 07:01:59 PM
Shen did a fantastic job helping out this open source project. 
That goes without saying. It was broken.
But what of the future?
You have no cryptographer since Tecnovert left.
And the bitmessage implementation (shadowchat) has not been vetted…
Is ShadowSend now fully peer-reviewed and secure post-Shen? Or could there be other exploits?
How will you regain trust?
If Monero had been deanonymized the way ShadowCash has been it never would have recovered.
Of course there could be other exploits you fucking troglodyte. IT'S FUCKING 1's and 0's! It's goddamn code. Not like you understand anything about any of it though.
Regaining trust will most likely be done by demonstrating the coin's technological advantages over other coins (some coins don't even have a wallet let alone the Elders of the Internet dick stamp).
Why would a coin not recover as long as it is still being developed with a beneficial end game for all of humanity in it's crosshairs? YOU FUCKING TROGLODYTE
*Edit* My favorite part about this whole read is that you complain about the fairlaunch distribution yet are currently invested in an ICO!! rofl
March 21, 2016, 01:19:09 PM
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March 17, 2016, 02:40:22 PM
Delete and shut down any comment or info that they dont like about SDC from the official FORUM thread and claim that it is just an info thread and not a forum (bit insane, authoritarian and against everything that Opensource represents, but still claim to be opensource) --- Checked.
Worst distribution (coins in few hands) --- Checked
Pump n Dump --- Checked
Broken Anon (after being used to hype the first pump) --- Checked
New Hype for new Pump and Dump phase --- Checked
Pump and dump much vaporware?
https://i.imgur.com/eNj1tsX.png
Worst distribution (coins in few hands) --- Checked
Pump n Dump --- Checked
Broken Anon (after being used to hype the first pump) --- Checked
New Hype for new Pump and Dump phase --- Checked
Pump and dump much vaporware?
https://i.imgur.com/eNj1tsX.png
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Merry Christmas everyone or however you wish to celebrate it
Personally i will be celebrating the birth of Jesus.
or 2027? why 2016? Is your Jesus late?
2 Real Decentralized marketplaces are now out and available for the public (one of them with a proper Alpha testing (not inside only testing like sdc) Now what is your motive to hold aside of the fact of being the big holders of the 50-60% of the coin, with that Group power, and non transparency, and now the real marketplaces coming out, this is aiming to become a huge failure, always delays and keep moving the date out every time just playing the market to make it dump so you can continue to hoard an 70-80% of the coin instead to play your pump and dump.
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ETA of the marketplace?
2016Merry Christmas everyone or however you wish to celebrate it
Personally i will be celebrating the birth of Jesus.
or 2027? why 2016? Is your Jesus late?
2 Real Decentralized marketplaces are now out and available for the public (one of them with a proper Alpha testing (not inside only testing like sdc) Now what is your motive to hold aside of the fact of being the big holders of the 50-60% of the coin, with that Group power, and non transparency, and now the real marketplaces coming out, this is aiming to become a huge failure, always delays and keep moving the date out every time just playing the market to make it dump so you can continue to hoard an 70-80% of the coin instead to play your pump and dump.
March 17, 2016, 07:42:14 AM
It looks like SDC went live with our solution for hashToEC.
They switched from creating a new generator, discussed here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14079014
What's this mean?
We are the leaders kids.
This is the heart of our algo, pushed publicly 9 days ago:
This is shadowcash's pushed to their repo 3 days ago:
This is their commit after they read our critique of their method:
https://github.com/shadowproject/shadow/commit/106afc6975cf41090ca2a0c47877de0cc8a16f1a
They switched from creating a new generator, discussed here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14079014
What's this mean?
We are the leaders kids.
This is the heart of our algo, pushed publicly 9 days ago:
Code:
for (j = 0; j < k; ++j)
{
if (j == 0)
x = u;
else
{
secp256k1_fe_set_int(&i, j);
secp256k1_fe_add(&x, &i);
}
if (secp256k1_ge_set_xquad_var(&Q, &x))
{
success = 1;
break;
}
}
{
if (j == 0)
x = u;
else
{
secp256k1_fe_set_int(&i, j);
secp256k1_fe_add(&x, &i);
}
if (secp256k1_ge_set_xquad_var(&Q, &x))
{
success = 1;
break;
}
}
This is shadowcash's pushed to their repo 3 days ago:
Code:
while(!EC_POINT_set_compressed_coordinates_GFp(ecGrp, ptRet, bnTmp, 0, bnCtx) && count < 100)
{
count += 1;
if (count == 100)
return errorN(1, "%s: Failed to find a valid point for public key.", __func__);
BN_add(bnTmp, bnTmp, bnOne);
}
{
count += 1;
if (count == 100)
return errorN(1, "%s: Failed to find a valid point for public key.", __func__);
BN_add(bnTmp, bnTmp, bnOne);
}
This is their commit after they read our critique of their method:
https://github.com/shadowproject/shadow/commit/106afc6975cf41090ca2a0c47877de0cc8a16f1a
SDC used fix that EC came up with first
Is this true?
Shen did a fantastic job helping out this open source project.
Did Shen fix the bug? Did he go on to do a full review?
March 10, 2016, 11:51:14 AM
Shen did a fantastic job helping out this open source project.
That goes without saying. It was broken.
But what of the future?
You have no cryptographer since Tecnovert left.
And the bitmessage implementation (shadowchat) has not been vetted…
Is ShadowSend now fully peer-reviewed and secure post-Shen? Or could there be other exploits?
How will you regain trust?
If Monero had been deanonymized the way ShadowCash has been it never would have recovered.
March 10, 2016, 11:28:09 AM
Shen did a fantastic job helping out this open source project.
March 10, 2016, 11:08:29 AM
Well you tried to sink the ship but she appears to be well afloat.
To be fair I got a lot of help
Its not s though I wrote those whitepapers, didnt deliver the peer review or de-anon'd the entire chain
(or wrote a blogpost entitled ShadowCash Deanonymized? Nope, roughly 24 hours before it totally was)
All I did was write about it, and in this thread cause yours is heavily modded.
Serious answer:
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Im intrigued by the SDC "Phoenix" resurrection attempt, but the question is will people trust the anon is working after Shen deanon'd the whole chain? Sure you have a fix, but will you need another? Has Shen performed a full review of the anon now? I think people would be interested to know that. And what of Shadowchat's security?
How much has Shen helped you guys out to fix the problem?
March 10, 2016, 10:58:12 AM
Why don't you just ask him?
Hi rusty,
Geez - I think that boat sailed…
Why dont you?
PS Im happy for you the price spiked up a little as a result. At least you can recoup some BTC, whatever the outcome.
Serious answer, cryptonote level anonymity on bitcoin codebase.
March 10, 2016, 10:42:12 AM
Why don't you just ask him?
Hi rusty,
Geez - I think that boat sailed…
Why dont you?
PS Im happy for you the price spiked up a little as a result. At least you can recoup some BTC, whatever the outcome.
Hey mate,
Well you tried to sink the ship but she appears to be well afloat.
Hop back on board anytime and I will help make you feel back at home.
March 10, 2016, 10:23:18 AM
Why don't you just ask him?
Hi rusty,
Geez - I think that boat sailed…
Why dont you?
PS Im happy for you the price spiked up a little as a result. At least you can recoup some BTC, whatever the outcome.
March 10, 2016, 10:15:50 AM
Great to see some more recognition from a respected publication. This is big.
Yeah about that…
How exactly did ryno end up getting quoted in that article?
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/03/why-criminals-cant-hide-behind-bitcoin
The journalist was aware of the recent deanonymization, right?
Why don't you just ask him?
March 10, 2016, 09:50:56 AM
Great to see some more recognition from a respected publication. This is big.
Yeah about that…
How exactly did ryno end up getting quoted in that article?
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/03/why-criminals-cant-hide-behind-bitcoin
The journalist was aware of the recent deanonymization, right?
March 10, 2016, 09:45:55 AM
I can't believe I read all 18 pages of this ridiculous thread.
Some people...haha.
Anyways glad to see everything's running smoothly, was keeping up with this project a while ago, nice new release and looking forward to the others.
I don't think threads like these deserve a quarter of the response they pulled, diverts the attention from more important things for a developing coin
Some people...haha.
Anyways glad to see everything's running smoothly, was keeping up with this project a while ago, nice new release and looking forward to the others.
I don't think threads like these deserve a quarter of the response they pulled, diverts the attention from more important things for a developing coin
Pff†…
But you did read it, right? What in particular do you disagree with btw? What is "ridiculous" about it?
Im intrigued by the SDC "Phoenix" resurrection attempt, but the question is will people trust the anon is working after Shen deanon'd the whole chain? Sure you have a fix, but will you need another? Has Shen performed a full review of the anon now? I think people would be interested to know that. And what of Shadowchat's security?
March 08, 2016, 11:19:58 PM
I can't believe I read all 18 pages of this ridiculous thread.
Some people...haha.
Anyways glad to see everything's running smoothly, was keeping up with this project a while ago, nice new release and looking forward to the others.
I don't think threads like these deserve a quarter of the response they pulled, diverts the attention from more important things for a developing coin
Some people...haha.
Anyways glad to see everything's running smoothly, was keeping up with this project a while ago, nice new release and looking forward to the others.
I don't think threads like these deserve a quarter of the response they pulled, diverts the attention from more important things for a developing coin
March 08, 2016, 08:22:20 PM
yeah but eclipse cloned shadows complete code base...so...its a shitcoin clone.
LISK!!! on that we can agree. Looking forward to launch.
LISK!!! on that we can agree. Looking forward to launch.
March 08, 2016, 12:13:00 AM
It looks like SDC went live with our solution for hashToEC.
They switched from creating a new generator, discussed here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14079014
What's this mean?
We are the leaders kids.
This is the heart of our algo, pushed publicly 9 days ago:
This is shadowcash's pushed to their repo 3 days ago:
This is their commit after they read our critique of their method:
https://github.com/shadowproject/shadow/commit/106afc6975cf41090ca2a0c47877de0cc8a16f1a
They switched from creating a new generator, discussed here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14079014
What's this mean?
We are the leaders kids.
This is the heart of our algo, pushed publicly 9 days ago:
Code:
for (j = 0; j < k; ++j)
{
if (j == 0)
x = u;
else
{
secp256k1_fe_set_int(&i, j);
secp256k1_fe_add(&x, &i);
}
if (secp256k1_ge_set_xquad_var(&Q, &x))
{
success = 1;
break;
}
}
{
if (j == 0)
x = u;
else
{
secp256k1_fe_set_int(&i, j);
secp256k1_fe_add(&x, &i);
}
if (secp256k1_ge_set_xquad_var(&Q, &x))
{
success = 1;
break;
}
}
This is shadowcash's pushed to their repo 3 days ago:
Code:
while(!EC_POINT_set_compressed_coordinates_GFp(ecGrp, ptRet, bnTmp, 0, bnCtx) && count < 100)
{
count += 1;
if (count == 100)
return errorN(1, "%s: Failed to find a valid point for public key.", __func__);
BN_add(bnTmp, bnTmp, bnOne);
}
{
count += 1;
if (count == 100)
return errorN(1, "%s: Failed to find a valid point for public key.", __func__);
BN_add(bnTmp, bnTmp, bnOne);
}
This is their commit after they read our critique of their method:
https://github.com/shadowproject/shadow/commit/106afc6975cf41090ca2a0c47877de0cc8a16f1a
SDC used fix that EC came up with first
February 29, 2016, 09:44:56 AM
Here is the glowing shill review of his DOGECOIN history book. Too much LOL
http://www.amazon.com/Dogecoin-History-First-Christopher-Thompson/dp/1519667353/ref=la_B00S5L3PVM_1_2
"When the people of this world wake up and realize they've been lied to for hundreds of years, they won't want Dollars, Euros, or Yen."
They'll want ShadowCash!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH - OMG it hurts to laugh this much!
I didnt think it could get worse for SDC but it really just did.
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Another Fantastic Outstanding Volume from a Leading Cryptocurrency Pioneer!
By Greg Matthews on January 16, 2016
Format: Paperback Verified Purchase
I'm an avid reader and have read hundreds of books over my 50 years! Chris Thompson is a man among men, a writer among writers, and a leading cryptocurrency pioneer. When the people of this world wake up and realize they've been lied to for hundreds of years, they won't want US Dollars, Euros, or Yen. They will demand cryptocurrencies. This book expertly documents Dogecoin's first year. It has quickly become one of the most popular currencies of this newly born revolution. Dive into this volume detailing the coin named after a Japanese breed of dog that's come alive as an iconic meme. Add this book to your library today and complete your crypto book collection!
By Greg Matthews on January 16, 2016
Format: Paperback Verified Purchase
I'm an avid reader and have read hundreds of books over my 50 years! Chris Thompson is a man among men, a writer among writers, and a leading cryptocurrency pioneer. When the people of this world wake up and realize they've been lied to for hundreds of years, they won't want US Dollars, Euros, or Yen. They will demand cryptocurrencies. This book expertly documents Dogecoin's first year. It has quickly become one of the most popular currencies of this newly born revolution. Dive into this volume detailing the coin named after a Japanese breed of dog that's come alive as an iconic meme. Add this book to your library today and complete your crypto book collection!
http://www.amazon.com/Dogecoin-History-First-Christopher-Thompson/dp/1519667353/ref=la_B00S5L3PVM_1_2
"When the people of this world wake up and realize they've been lied to for hundreds of years, they won't want Dollars, Euros, or Yen."
They'll want ShadowCash!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH - OMG it hurts to laugh this much!
I didnt think it could get worse for SDC but it really just did.
February 29, 2016, 05:03:13 AM
I'll buy a copy if Shen signs it.
Shit - I'll buy one if Tecnovert signs it. I still dont believe that guy even exists!
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