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PSA for anybody who didn't hear the news.  Poloniex will be requiring your identity before you can withdraw coins starting on May 20th, which is in about 24 hours.  Better get your coins off there ASAP if you don't want to be privacy raped.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/36er4h/poloniex_changes_identity_margin_trading_lending/

Warn others.
That seemed to happen damn fast. Most likely so they don't have to deal with mass outrage. I suspect it's probably just the first step though to requiring ids as well.

Finally, something we agree on.
hero member
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any efforts right now will be wasted. i dont know how many times i have to repeat myself: only morons and gamblers are going to see an incomplete project in a vast ocean of scams as a good investment. we may pick up 1 or 2 people every week, but the vast majority of people see no benefit in buying SDC right now.

Why? Why would adding things like the market make one bit of difference to a CURRENCY's long term prospects. Right now, the coin is "done" and anything else is just "stuff" built on top of it. It's an anonymous currency that can be used by the masses. Things like the market are only going to create a bump in the price and will simply be home for mostly things like SilkRoad. The masses won't care about those things, they're going to want a coin they can use to buy real things with simply and fast. The coin is ready to do that now without any "fluff". 99% of the coins out now will always be "failures" because they have no plan or effort for adoption. How many faucets are there for SDC right now? How many gambling sites and/or games can you use SDC on? That's just basic crypto stuff and SDC has pretty much none of that. Until people stop waiting for more "stuff" and actually start getting it adopted, it's never going to be more than just another coin to trade on exchanges. The coin doesn't need investors, it needs adoption.

Are you claiming faucets, games, and gambling make coins? Half of the coins out there have these things, but I wouldn't go about claiming those to be successful. In my opinion, for a coin to be successful it needs to have it's own ecosystem. When the market is released and the SDK is put together, then we can see this come to fruition.

That's not what I said. Reread it.

You claim we need adoption. I claim that adoption will come as more things are released. Pushing for adoption too early can be dangerous. Satoshi warned against it with bitcoin and I agree with that. Just let things develop naturally. No need to force anything on this baby coin.

The thing is, the project will never really be done. Going back and reading stuff shortly after the ShadowSend2 release, it appears that it's not the final version and that there will be a ShadowSend3 and maybe even 4. There will always be things that can be added and updated. Taking a "if we build it they will come" approach rarely works and I've been involved in a number of projects outside this realm that have proved that time and time again. At it's core, SDC is a currency meant to buy and sell things. That's "done" and so there's no reason for there not to be an effort for more adoption and real world use. Adoption is a slow process and should be constantly ongoing.

As for waiting for the marketplace, NXT has a marketplace. I haven't got myself back up to speed on that project but it seems to have had little effect on that coins adoption. Maybe it's too limited or something, as I said I haven't got back up to speed on that coin. At least from a price standpoint, it's around 3700 now and late last year when I was trading it, it was around the 5000-6000 mark. So really, thinking that the market will somehow change the coins adoption/popularity appears to be just based in wishful thinking.

At a quick glance, the nxt marketplace requires a seperate software download and only has games, music, and ebooks as categories. It also doesn't offer the same anonymity as sdc.
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PSA for anybody who didn't hear the news.  Poloniex will be requiring your identity before you can withdraw coins starting on May 20th, which is in about 24 hours.  Better get your coins off there ASAP if you don't want to be privacy raped.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/36er4h/poloniex_changes_identity_margin_trading_lending/

Warn others.
That seemed to happen damn fast. Most likely so they don't have to deal with mass outrage. I suspect it's probably just the first step though to requiring ids as well.
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PSA for anybody who didn't hear the news.  Poloniex will be requiring your identity before you can withdraw coins starting on May 20th, which is in about 24 hours.  Better get your coins off there ASAP if you don't want to be privacy raped.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/36er4h/poloniex_changes_identity_margin_trading_lending/


Warn others.
sr. member
Activity: 686
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any efforts right now will be wasted. i dont know how many times i have to repeat myself: only morons and gamblers are going to see an incomplete project in a vast ocean of scams as a good investment. we may pick up 1 or 2 people every week, but the vast majority of people see no benefit in buying SDC right now.

Why? Why would adding things like the market make one bit of difference to a CURRENCY's long term prospects. Right now, the coin is "done" and anything else is just "stuff" built on top of it. It's an anonymous currency that can be used by the masses. Things like the market are only going to create a bump in the price and will simply be home for mostly things like SilkRoad. The masses won't care about those things, they're going to want a coin they can use to buy real things with simply and fast. The coin is ready to do that now without any "fluff". 99% of the coins out now will always be "failures" because they have no plan or effort for adoption. How many faucets are there for SDC right now? How many gambling sites and/or games can you use SDC on? That's just basic crypto stuff and SDC has pretty much none of that. Until people stop waiting for more "stuff" and actually start getting it adopted, it's never going to be more than just another coin to trade on exchanges. The coin doesn't need investors, it needs adoption.

Are you claiming faucets, games, and gambling make coins? Half of the coins out there have these things, but I wouldn't go about claiming those to be successful. In my opinion, for a coin to be successful it needs to have it's own ecosystem. When the market is released and the SDK is put together, then we can see this come to fruition.

That's not what I said. Reread it.

You claim we need adoption. I claim that adoption will come as more things are released. Pushing for adoption too early can be dangerous. Satoshi warned against it with bitcoin and I agree with that. Just let things develop naturally. No need to force anything on this baby coin.

The thing is, the project will never really be done. Going back and reading stuff shortly after the ShadowSend2 release, it appears that it's not the final version and that there will be a ShadowSend3 and maybe even 4. There will always be things that can be added and updated. Taking a "if we build it they will come" approach rarely works and I've been involved in a number of projects outside this realm that have proved that time and time again. At it's core, SDC is a currency meant to buy and sell things. That's "done" and so there's no reason for there not to be an effort for more adoption and real world use. Adoption is a slow process and should be constantly ongoing.

As for waiting for the marketplace, NXT has a marketplace. I haven't got myself back up to speed on that project but it seems to have had little effect on that coins adoption. Maybe it's too limited or something, as I said I haven't got back up to speed on that coin. At least from a price standpoint, it's around 3700 now and late last year when I was trading it, it was around the 5000-6000 mark. So really, thinking that the market will somehow change the coins adoption/popularity appears to be just based in wishful thinking.
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AH MADE A STOOPID

..and yet you're still whining about the price. Hmmm.. so why don't you pull up some of your market tricks to launch the price wherever you want?



But seriously guys,

I really believe this thread is way much negative, insultive and kinda unwelcoming. Some are always bitching about something that don't like at the moment, some strike back, repeat ad absurdum.
Then some new comes around, have some interesting (or maybe just rookie) questions, which might contain just a slightly negative points towards Shadow and instead of interesting and mainly constructive discussion there's this storm all over again.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - let's cooperate and not fight together! If we'd all chip in some effort, we could bring more members to the community, people would address various websites and services, pushing Shadow forward.. Maybe instead of this written chronic BS in this thread, you're more useful some other way. => That's hopefully the reason behind devs' actions. Instead of participating in this non-sense, they focus on their work and deliver! They deliver steadily, more updates and features (seems like some of you absolutely ignore this).

When I joined Shadow and this thread, I was told this is all community effort. Go ahead and be useful.

/baked
We should talk about it more. I dont think there are enough hundreds of pages about this. +1 ;P
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which one of my wallets, i dont have just one

you give me a reasonable figure

ps: i can manipulate the market as much as i want.

until someone bigger than me comes, i am doing whatever i want. it is my playground

got it?

..and yet you're still whining about the price. Hmmm.. so why don't you pull up some of your market tricks to launch the price wherever you want?



But seriously guys,

I really believe this thread is way much negative, insultive and kinda unwelcoming. Some are always bitching about something that don't like at the moment, some strike back, repeat ad absurdum.
Then some new comes around, have some interesting (or maybe just rookie) questions, which might contain just a slightly negative points towards Shadow and instead of interesting and mainly constructive discussion there's this storm all over again.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - let's cooperate and not fight together! If we'd all chip in some effort, we could bring more members to the community, people would address various websites and services, pushing Shadow forward.. Maybe instead of this written chronic BS in this thread, you're more useful some other way. => That's hopefully the reason behind devs' actions. Instead of participating in this non-sense, they focus on their work and deliver! They deliver steadily, more updates and features (seems like some of you absolutely ignore this).

When I joined Shadow and this thread, I was told this is all community effort. Go ahead and be useful.

/baked
hero member
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gots it up n running =D

Glad to hear, I've not come across any issues on Windows and I have half a dozen running across various setups.
sr. member
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gots it up n running =D
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has anyone gotten the new wallet to work on windows 8 64-bit?
I've got it working alright at W 8.1 (64 bit). Updated it to 1.3.2.4 without a problem.

im left with error messages. Ill try downloading the first wallet then upgrading from there. ill post the messages if they persist. Thanks for the feedback everyone
legendary
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has anyone gotten the new wallet to work on windows 8 64-bit?
I've got it working alright at W 8.1 (64 bit). Updated it to 1.3.2.4 without a problem.
sr. member
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has anyone gotten the new wallet to work on windows 8 64-bit?

if you mean 1.3.2.4, win32 bit i tried, it didnt work and then i deleted it
sr. member
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has anyone gotten the new wallet to work on windows 8 64-bit?
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more people are selling now at my 50k buy wall

it was the same at 20k couple of months ago

keep on selling guys

congrats to being the first person on my ignore list
sr. member
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more people are selling now at my 50k buy wall

it was the same at 20k couple of months ago

keep on selling guys

50k is he bottom for me

but we re waiting for an explantion about zeuner review and market release date from dev team
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people likes to sell on my buy walls, nice to see it

next time i tell it in advance, so i dont need to wait
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....  You tried to manipulate the price downwards, and even caused a flash crash to 0.000425 the other day, and the price immediately bounced back to 0.0005. The only reason you dumped it was to try to save your damaged ego, then you came here to tell us how you dumped it to that low low price, and how you were so smart to predict it.  You predicted the price would be sub 40K this weekend and you were wrong.  

Don't give skip60 the satisfaction that he was the reason the price dropped. It wasn't him, he doesn't have any SDC left after selling at 18k sats. He just claims things because they happen and nobody else claims them. He has no control over the market, hence all the whining and asking for market makers.

hey sexy thing,

how many coins you want me put sell order at trex for couple of minutes.

give me a figure

then you will shut up

How about you sign a message in your wallet and post it here so we all know you mean business

which one of my wallets, i dont have just one

you give me a reasonable figure

I don't care, any of your many that substantiates the amount of SDC you claim to have. Should be easy to pick one to blow our minds.

i can manipulate the market as much as i want.

until someone bigger than me comes, i am doing whatever i want. it is my playground

for example 30k buy wall at 50k sat is mine, you can sell into it. someone sold around 8k already

i dont share my wallet no

Ok, that's your prerogative to not share your wallet. Signing a message is the only way to prove ownership of a blockchain token. I'll just continue to assume you sold your stash of 1,000 or so SDC out a while ago.
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....  You tried to manipulate the price downwards, and even caused a flash crash to 0.000425 the other day, and the price immediately bounced back to 0.0005. The only reason you dumped it was to try to save your damaged ego, then you came here to tell us how you dumped it to that low low price, and how you were so smart to predict it.  You predicted the price would be sub 40K this weekend and you were wrong.  

Don't give skip60 the satisfaction that he was the reason the price dropped. It wasn't him, he doesn't have any SDC left after selling at 18k sats. He just claims things because they happen and nobody else claims them. He has no control over the market, hence all the whining and asking for market makers.

hey sexy thing,

how many coins you want me put sell order at trex for couple of minutes.

give me a figure

then you will shut up

How about you sign a message in your wallet and post it here so we all know you mean business

which one of my wallets, i dont have just one

you give me a reasonable figure

I don't care, any of your many that substantiates the amount of SDC you claim to have. Should be easy to pick one to blow our minds.

i can manipulate the market as much as i want.

until someone bigger than me comes, i am doing whatever i want. it is my playground

for example 30k buy wall at 50k sat is mine, you can sell into it. someone sold around 8k already

i dont share my wallet no

sr. member
Activity: 630
Merit: 253
....  You tried to manipulate the price downwards, and even caused a flash crash to 0.000425 the other day, and the price immediately bounced back to 0.0005. The only reason you dumped it was to try to save your damaged ego, then you came here to tell us how you dumped it to that low low price, and how you were so smart to predict it.  You predicted the price would be sub 40K this weekend and you were wrong.  

Don't give skip60 the satisfaction that he was the reason the price dropped. It wasn't him, he doesn't have any SDC left after selling at 18k sats. He just claims things because they happen and nobody else claims them. He has no control over the market, hence all the whining and asking for market makers.

hey sexy thing,

how many coins you want me put sell order at trex for couple of minutes.

give me a figure

then you will shut up

How about you sign a message in your wallet and post it here so we all know you mean business

which one of my wallets, i dont have just one

you give me a reasonable figure

I don't care, any of your many that substantiates the amount of SDC you claim to have. Should be easy to pick one to blow our minds.

i can manipulate the market as much as i want.

until someone bigger than me comes, i am doing whatever i want. it is my playground

for example 30k buy wall at 50k sat is mine, you can sell into it. someone sold around 8k already

i dont share my wallet no
legendary
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