Primarily I would use China as an example because they have been known to take over the coast line fishing of East Africa, due to their ongoing wars and lack of personal representation or a strong navy the nations there see a continual raiding of their natural resources by boats thousands of miles from home.
That's a good point about resource, this is indeed a growing concern and it is global. As the (human) population grows and in cases the fish population shrinks, fishermen will start venturing further and sometimes in other territorial waters. For example we've seen clashes between England and France over fishing rights and they've seized other country's fishing boats in the past too. 
Topic: Sea Piracy, it's effect on the local economy - page 2. (Read 735 times)
I believe that piracy still thrives on the ocean because there are powerful individuals that benefits from the criminal activities, if it's not so then the illegal and criminal business will not still be active today, because most of these countries have naval forces that can combat these criminals. Most of these pirates might have been ordinary fishermen that were brainwashed and trained into carrying arms and terrorising genuine ship crews who are doing their legitimate businesses. You'd wonder who arms them with sophisticated weapons and teaches them the commando styles of seizing ships and kidnapping their crews for ransom. Most crimes of theses magnitudes are highly organized, so there has to be deeper questions to be answered in order to find a lasting solution to the menace of these pirates, if not I think that it'll continue business as usual.
The difference is that it's the typical gorilla tactic but in a sea theme instead. Look at USA, are they weak nation in military world? Of course not, they are the biggest nation in the world when we are talking about military, in fact, if we removed nuclear weapons from the world today, they could bulldoze China and Russia together, and yes some Russians and Chinese people (or their fans) will argue against it, but we are talking about multiple times more soldiers and nearly 20 times the finance compared to both combined, so if they do fail, that has to be because they did something dumb, no worries though nuclear weapons prevents that.All in all, Vietnam still prevailed. Because of gorilla war, and that's the trouble with sea, these are just few people with boats, how can you stop them all at the same time?
There are satellites 🛰️ and drones. I suspect that pirates could be crushed if governments want to do it.
But they allow it for their own agendas.
Sea piracy has a detrimental effect on local economies. It disrupts trade routes, increases shipping costs, deters investment & tourism, reduces business activity & hampers livelihood opportunities. Coastal communities suffer from economic instability, higher security costs & limited growth prospects. Governments divert resources from development initiatives to enhance maritime security. Sea piracy undermines economic growth, stability & prosperity in affected areas.
As reality has shown, maritime terrorism, in the specific case at hand, has brought 3 global problems:
1. Disruption of global shipping routes from Asia to Europe. This will affect logistics costs, and ultimately the cost of goods. The approximate increase in cost could be around 10-15%. These costs will be borne by the buyers. But will not bankrupt them.
2. The real losers are...the COUNTRIES OF REGION where maritime terrorism is now taking place. I.e. essentially "shooting yourself in the foot", well, or your neighbor's foot
3. And about good - judging by everything we will soon see a tangible response to the terror of pirates, both themselves and their puppeteers. Hopefully this will lead to peace for many decades in the region
I believe that piracy still thrives on the ocean because there are powerful individuals that benefits from the criminal activities, if it's not so then the illegal and criminal business will not still be active today, because most of these countries have naval forces that can combat these criminals. Most of these pirates might have been ordinary fishermen that were brainwashed and trained into carrying arms and terrorising genuine ship crews who are doing their legitimate businesses. You'd wonder who arms them with sophisticated weapons and teaches them the commando styles of seizing ships and kidnapping their crews for ransom. Most crimes of theses magnitudes are highly organized, so there has to be deeper questions to be answered in order to find a lasting solution to the menace of these pirates, if not I think that it'll continue business as usual.
The difference is that it's the typical gorilla tactic but in a sea theme instead. Look at USA, are they weak nation in military world? Of course not, they are the biggest nation in the world when we are talking about military, in fact, if we removed nuclear weapons from the world today, they could bulldoze China and Russia together, and yes some Russians and Chinese people (or their fans) will argue against it, but we are talking about multiple times more soldiers and nearly 20 times the finance compared to both combined, so if they do fail, that has to be because they did something dumb, no worries though nuclear weapons prevents that.All in all, Vietnam still prevailed. Because of gorilla war, and that's the trouble with sea, these are just few people with boats, how can you stop them all at the same time?
Sea piracy has a detrimental effect on local economies. It disrupts trade routes, increases shipping costs, deters investment & tourism, reduces business activity & hampers livelihood opportunities. Coastal communities suffer from economic instability, higher security costs & limited growth prospects. Governments divert resources from development initiatives to enhance maritime security. Sea piracy undermines economic growth, stability & prosperity in affected areas.
I believe that piracy still thrives on the ocean because there are powerful individuals that benefits from the criminal activities, if it's not so then the illegal and criminal business will not still be active today, because most of these countries have naval forces that can combat these criminals.
I agree with this. Not like this is the only reason why sea piracy thrives but it's part of the reason.
These pirates don't have money to buy ships, boats, guns and ammunition, they're given to them by other people. People that have a share in the business. They have people in high places that sponsor them and give them orders and information. When these orders are coming from the top, it becomes very difficult to battle except you can cut off the hesdbof the snake. And even if you cut off the headbof the snake, another snake will just take over his place because there is money to be made and that seat is vacant.
Another reason I believe ses piracy thrives is because it doesn't directly affect the people in power that havebthe authority to do something about it. They don't care because it's not happening to them. If that route was the route the president of the country uses daily or regularly, it would as safe as possible.
Piracy and economic growth are not at all the same thing. Pirates do bring in money for local economies, but at what cost? It's only a temporary fix for bigger social and economic problems that won't last. Legal trade is important for a healthy economy, but piracy hurts it. Piracy hurts trust in these important shipping routes by blocking them, which forces ships to take longer, more expensive routes. This makes global trade more expensive. Is this really a "solution"?
Also, think about the effects on the sailors and their families, like the mental pain and physical risks. Is their pain a reasonable price to pay for economic growth? Without a doubt not. We need to change the story. It's not a matter of picking between poor and piracy. It's about giving these towns economic options that will work in the long term. These are the paths we should be looking into: working together with other countries, having proper fishing rights, and making new jobs. A long-term answer that gets to the root of the problem is more important than quick wins that are based on blood and fear
Also, think about the effects on the sailors and their families, like the mental pain and physical risks. Is their pain a reasonable price to pay for economic growth? Without a doubt not. We need to change the story. It's not a matter of picking between poor and piracy. It's about giving these towns economic options that will work in the long term. These are the paths we should be looking into: working together with other countries, having proper fishing rights, and making new jobs. A long-term answer that gets to the root of the problem is more important than quick wins that are based on blood and fear
The easiest and most cost-effective means of importing and exporting goods is by sea. A study shows that shipping companies face huge financial losses every year in their shipping industry. Some of the reasons for facing huge financial losses include Somalia pirate attacks as well as shipwrecks. Somali pirates are generally very aggressive and target ships that carry large amounts of valuable goods. Pirates take those ships and demand huge ransoms, and when the shipping industry pays the ransom, they release the ships. Due to pirate attacks and extra money paid to pirates, many shipping industries shut down their operations, but with the advancement of technology, some advanced security systems have been added to the ships to prevent pirates from attacking the ships. Due to the use of advanced technology in ships, the presence of pirates has reduced a lot.
I agree that maritime transportation is a cost-effective way to import and export goods. It's unfortunate that piracy and shipwrecks have caused financial losses for shipping companies. However, it's encouraging to hear that advanced security systems are being implemented to minimize pirate attacks. Technological advancements will continue to play a crucial role in ensuring the safety and efficiency of sea transportation.
I believe that piracy still thrives on the ocean because there are powerful individuals that benefits from the criminal activities, if it's not so then the illegal and criminal business will not still be active today, because most of these countries have naval forces that can combat these criminals. Most of these pirates might have been ordinary fishermen that were brainwashed and trained into carrying arms and terrorising genuine ship crews who are doing their legitimate businesses. You'd wonder who arms them with sophisticated weapons and teaches them the commando styles of seizing ships and kidnapping their crews for ransom. Most crimes of theses magnitudes are highly organized, so there has to be deeper questions to be answered in order to find a lasting solution to the menace of these pirates, if not I think that it'll continue business as usual.
There will be always several people who will need resources and will rely on illegal activities like sea piracy. Not only the naval forces that scare them to start piracy but also the fact that even the crew itself has self-defense weapons such as guns, spikes, etc. which the pirates lack resources for them to enter the ship for looting. Just ordinary fishermen with a lack of experience in battle, since most of the terrorist who are using them lacks the number of men even kids take them as part of their men. Plus some of them are being blackmailed so they have no choice but to agree or else they will be killed. It is really hard to find a solution to this since the root of this problem probably would be poverty and almost every country in the world experience it.
the piracy in the regions that OP mentioned is politically driven since it is allegedly supported by Iran, especially the Houthis rebels in Yemen who recently just shot a ship with their missile.
the Djibotis are on the other side which are also up to no good in this passage. if the ships will decide not to pass in the Red Sea to go around Europe, their supply chain will be delayed for almost a month. consequently, this will affect the supplies in our supermarkets thus indirectly affecting the local economy.
I believe that piracy still thrives on the ocean because there are powerful individuals that benefits from the criminal activities, if it's not so then the illegal and criminal business will not still be active today, because most of these countries have naval forces that can combat these criminals. Most of these pirates might have been ordinary fishermen that were brainwashed and trained into carrying arms and terrorising genuine ship crews who are doing their legitimate businesses. You'd wonder who arms them with sophisticated weapons and teaches them the commando styles of seizing ships and kidnapping their crews for ransom. Most crimes of theses magnitudes are highly organized, so there has to be deeper questions to be answered in order to find a lasting solution to the menace of these pirates, if not I think that it'll continue business as usual.
There will be always several people who will need resources and will rely on illegal activities like sea piracy. Not only the naval forces that scare them to start piracy but also the fact that even the crew itself has self-defense weapons such as guns, spikes, etc. which the pirates lack resources for them to enter the ship for looting. Just ordinary fishermen with a lack of experience in battle, since most of the terrorist who are using them lacks the number of men even kids take them as part of their men. Plus some of them are being blackmailed so they have no choice but to agree or else they will be killed. It is really hard to find a solution to this since the root of this problem probably would be poverty and almost every country in the world experience it.
Piracy isn't that profitable anymore, UN or was it NATO have launched the operation Ocean Shield to protect cargo ships from pirates and so far it's effective because piracy rates in the hotbeds of piracy are lowering throughout the years and not to mention that cargo companies are investing in security be it the soft kind of security like barbwires or anti rope railings to lethal security like guards armed to the tooth or mercenaries with their own boats to guide these cargo ships, it's a bad time to be a pirate right now even if we believe it to be a good way to improve the economy of the pirate's country of origin. Most of the money that they're getting isn't going back to the economy, most likely it goes back to guns, drugs and other contrabands.
I believe that piracy still thrives on the ocean because there are powerful individuals that benefits from the criminal activities, if it's not so then the illegal and criminal business will not still be active today, because most of these countries have naval forces that can combat these criminals. Most of these pirates might have been ordinary fishermen that were brainwashed and trained into carrying arms and terrorising genuine ship crews who are doing their legitimate businesses. You'd wonder who arms them with sophisticated weapons and teaches them the commando styles of seizing ships and kidnapping their crews for ransom. Most crimes of theses magnitudes are highly organized, so there has to be deeper questions to be answered in order to find a lasting solution to the menace of these pirates, if not I think that it'll continue business as usual.
Ironic point I have to make about piracy in effect is the theft of sea fish stock by sovereign nations far out weighs the damage done by tribal groups with fast boats and guns. Primarily I would use China as an example because they have been known to take over the coast line fishing of East Africa, due to their ongoing wars and lack of personal representation or a strong navy the nations there see a continual raiding of their natural resources by boats thousands of miles from home. Somalia or similar countries then have a problem with poverty, a civil war situation and an excessive amount of guns with no governmental control; all these factors breed the problem of piracy and violence vs ships passing nearby to the nation even in international waters.
BP has stopped all shipping in the Red sea in light of repeated attacks on shipping and increased danger in the region. Its bad news for everyone in the end as it will raise prices and cost of insurance to operate as well as endanger long suffering crew who have no larger part in the actions.
BP has stopped all shipping in the Red sea in light of repeated attacks on shipping and increased danger in the region. Its bad news for everyone in the end as it will raise prices and cost of insurance to operate as well as endanger long suffering crew who have no larger part in the actions.
What are you talking about?! You can't talk about China like that! Or you'll get to the point that in China Muslims are persecuted ! And this is a completely different case, so what if more than a million Muslims are persecuted OPENLY and LAWFULLY ! In Hamas propaganda methodology it is written "in everything everywhere and always Jews are to blame, others are not to blame", remember, you can't think otherwise ! And if others torture Muslims, especially if they are tortured and persecuted in China - then they are wrong Muslims, and their fate "fighters against Israel" are not interested in
Or maybe you can say that Chinese seiners steal the most fish in the coastal zone of the African continent ? Or that Chinese companies have been plundering the resources of African countries for more than 10 years ? Fi how ugly it is to think like that ! You can't think like that - tell everyone that these are Israeli seiners and companies. Hamas never lies or cheats !
Or you must be a supporter of Israel too
The good thing is that it seems that the time of the terrorist groups of the Hussites is running out. And most will end their lives unexpectedly.... Waiting for unexpected "greetings" from the U.S. Navy
PS According to Hamas propaganda - Iran and their terrorist accomplices have long ago easily and guaranteed to destroy all US Navy ships
Ironic point I have to make about piracy in effect is the theft of sea fish stock by sovereign nations far out weighs the damage done by tribal groups with fast boats and guns. Primarily I would use China as an example because they have been known to take over the coast line fishing of East Africa, due to their ongoing wars and lack of personal representation or a strong navy the nations there see a continual raiding of their natural resources by boats thousands of miles from home. Somalia or similar countries then have a problem with poverty, a civil war situation and an excessive amount of guns with no governmental control; all these factors breed the problem of piracy and violence vs ships passing nearby to the nation even in international waters.
BP has stopped all shipping in the Red sea in light of repeated attacks on shipping and increased danger in the region. Its bad news for everyone in the end as it will raise prices and cost of insurance to operate as well as endanger long suffering crew who have no larger part in the actions.
BP has stopped all shipping in the Red sea in light of repeated attacks on shipping and increased danger in the region. Its bad news for everyone in the end as it will raise prices and cost of insurance to operate as well as endanger long suffering crew who have no larger part in the actions.
We've got more bad news for the apartheid regime occupying Palestine and its Zionist supporters as more people around the world are starting to refer to Israel as a terrorist organization. The most recent one was the head of the Catholic Church, Pope Francis when he refers to Israel's actions against Palestinians as terrorism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXHte30VVqE
On another bad news for Zionists, we now know that the Armed Forces of Yemen successfully prevented all shipments being sent to the terrorist organization commonly known as Israel over the past couple of weeks.
And as we can see from the live maps from https://www.marinetraffic.com/ the maritime traffic passing through Yemenis waters, Red Sea and Suez Canal are normal like they've always been. The only change is the shipments that are headed for the terrorist organization have to go around the African continent and face actual sea pirates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXHte30VVqE
On another bad news for Zionists, we now know that the Armed Forces of Yemen successfully prevented all shipments being sent to the terrorist organization commonly known as Israel over the past couple of weeks.
And as we can see from the live maps from https://www.marinetraffic.com/ the maritime traffic passing through Yemenis waters, Red Sea and Suez Canal are normal like they've always been. The only change is the shipments that are headed for the terrorist organization have to go around the African continent and face actual sea pirates.
3 news on the topic:
1. The greatest harm from the terrorism of the Yemeni Houthis, has come not from Israel but ... EGYPT ! As a beneficiary of the passage of merchant ships, through the Suez Canal, where traffic is greatly reduced due to risks and companies choose the route around the African continent.
2. the good news is that the US has decided to clean up the Red Sea. Perhaps at the same time and restore lawful order in Yemen, after the destruction of terrorist gangs.
3. Iran will lose another of its "terrorist nurturers" and the opportunity to negatively influence the region.
1. The greatest harm from the terrorism of the Yemeni Houthis, has come not from Israel but ... EGYPT ! As a beneficiary of the passage of merchant ships, through the Suez Canal, where traffic is greatly reduced due to risks and companies choose the route around the African continent.
2. the good news is that the US has decided to clean up the Red Sea. Perhaps at the same time and restore lawful order in Yemen, after the destruction of terrorist gangs.
3. Iran will lose another of its "terrorist nurturers" and the opportunity to negatively influence the region.
In the world of transportation, air and sea shipping are vitally important. However, while air shipping is used for its speed, sea shipping is chosen for the amount of cargo it can carry. One recent issue troubling sailors is sea piracy, especially in regions around countries like Somalia, Djibouti, and Kenya. Vessels are hijacked, entire crews are kidnapped, and they are held for ransom for months or even years. In some interviews with pirates, they claim that the lack of job opportunities led them to piracy, while others assert that former fishermen turned to piracy due to the impact of ships on fishing.
I am here to ask if anyone has considered this. We always have a choice. Piracy cannot be the sole option for personal economic growth unless it significantly contributes to the economy of these countries. It brings in quick and substantial money for the pirates, who then spend the money in their local economy. It functions as a wealth distribution system. Even people in these places might not want piracy to end because of the indirect benefits on their local economy. Do you think I am correct here?
Very often there is a link between the wealth of a region and the low levels of criminality there, and this is because if everyone benefits from the system in place, it is for the best of everyone living there to follow the rules and keep things going.I am here to ask if anyone has considered this. We always have a choice. Piracy cannot be the sole option for personal economic growth unless it significantly contributes to the economy of these countries. It brings in quick and substantial money for the pirates, who then spend the money in their local economy. It functions as a wealth distribution system. Even people in these places might not want piracy to end because of the indirect benefits on their local economy. Do you think I am correct here?
However if there is a high criminality on a specific region, and what you have worked so hard to make can be stolen from you by a thug, what is the purpose of working so hard when you can lose everything in seconds? So this is a massive obstacle to the development of the economy there, and while piracy can bring some short term profits to whoever decides to perform this activity, not only the short term costs can be very high, like being jailed, maimed or killed, but the long term costs are very high as well, therefore we must think of it as a crime that benefits no one, including the people directly involved on it that may seem to benefit from it.
As usual, nothing in response but denuded Hamas propaganda !
So you first say "there is no such international law" but after I provided the actual UN resolutions with page number and even paragraph numbers, you say it is "propaganda" 
Good to know that I'm wasting my time talking to a troll.
anti-Semites who promote anti-Semitism, racism
to destroy specifically and specifically Israelis and specifically Jews.
Classic Zionist terrorist propaganda trying to hide behind Semites and Jews although Zionists have nothing to do with either one of them. In fact one of the biggest protests against Zionists is currently taking place in New York, US by the Jewish community.to destroy specifically and specifically Israelis and specifically Jews.
This is exactly what ISIS did too. The radical terrorists that hid behind Islam and Muslims and were destroyed by Muslims too. Hopefully the Zionist terrorists will be eradicated with the hands of Jews and Semites soon.
You are very bad at manipulating information, have you not been told ?
You haven't cited a single document that explicitly states the ACKNOWLEDGEMENT that Israel is an aggressor country and is implementing the concept of apartheid. There is a vague wording. I hope you understand the difference between e.g. a theorem and an axiom ? between an assumption/assumption and a clear recognition. Again, re-read what you cited and point out the line where Israel is clearly defined and recognized as what you want it to be ?
And again - give a clear definition of apartheid, and show how that description "overlaps" with Israel ? With the facts that Palestinians/Arabs and other peoples live, coexist, work and use common stores, hospitals, schools. I'm going to assume that you just couldn't understand what apartheid is and you were just told in propaganda and you keep repeating it. It's like Russian propaganda since 2014 tried to put into your heads that for example in Ukraine there is a Nazi regime, xenophobia, persecution on the national and linguistic principle.
By the way, here's another FACT: after Israel was recognized as a state, neighboring Arab countries began to expel Jews from their countries on the basis of nationality. Examples (country/number of Jews before 1948/number of Jews):
Mapoккo/265.000/2.000
Algeria/140,000/1,000
Tunisia/150,000/150
Libya/38,000/0
Egypt/75,000/500
Yemen/55,000/100
Iraq/150,000/50
Syria/40.000/0
Lebanon/20,000/100
...
Care to tell us about the apartheid regime in these countries ? Or "that's different"?
At this time - at the beginning of May 2022 - the population of Israel was 9,506,000, of which 73.9% were Jews and 21.1% were Arabs
There is no point in explaining to you if you have no understanding of basic concepts, and your head is a mess of scraps of minimal knowledge, mixed with primitive propaganda ?!
PS Pentagon is considering strikes on military installations of terrorist gangs-formations of Hussites in response to attacks on civilian ships. Looks like it's time for the Hussites to get ready to migrate to the "other world"....
Places like this where such act is taking place government are aware things are taking place and I still wonder why nothing is being done about it, we have the naval officers and marine officers what is their duty. Year to year piracy keeps happening and it is affecting life, travellers are dieing, going through alot by losing their goods to this sea pirate. I think the government the government needs to look into this to reduce the rate of this act.
Pirates must be eradicated from their roots because they are very detrimental to fishermen and ships that cross international routes by sea. I think the government really has to step in to handle this at the borders of each country so that sea lanes can continue to be safe and not hinder the circulation of the world economy in any way. I quite agree that all pirates should be exterminated by the government by deploying all naval military forces because they are of no use to anyone or their own country. Jump to: