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June 03, 2013, 11:36:12 PM
June 03, 2013, 04:32:47 PM
edit: but, if all of the other "players" are disconnected ones who's stacks are just being blinded off, I don't count those as active players. In the real tourneys I've played, stacks that have been blinded down up to the cutoff for new entrants to join, got removed from the table. Stacks for players who have joined, but are just gone, won't get removed, but IMHO, if you can't even be bothered to be there and play your stack, you don't really have a right to complain about the other players who are there, choosing among themselves, to check down until your stack is gone. That's probably my #1 gripe about people joining tourneys, never showing up, and their no-play stacks out-last people actually playing to survive into a paying position. Still not relevant to your issue tho, but it came to mind.
I'd agree with this to some extent in those freerolls where people sign in and aren't there, but I believe the poster who brought up this issue mentioned it was PLO8, and there are no PLO8 freerolls on SWC. So I assume they were somehow disconnected against their will, and were probably going to reconnect again. I don't think it's legit even to collude like that in freerolls, but players in freerolls are much more likely to have just never actually showed up, and the "colluders" in such tournaments are much more likely just not to know the rules.
June 03, 2013, 02:46:59 PM
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If they were colluding in private pretending to not be doing so I would agree, that's a problem and needs to be dealt with, but openly agreeing to check it down, I don't think counts as 'colluding'.
This would not be tolerated in any poker tournament I am aware of. Where have you seen this done in tournaments?-- Smoov
edit: but, if all of the other "players" are disconnected ones who's stacks are just being blinded off, I don't count those as active players. In the real tourneys I've played, stacks that have been blinded down up to the cutoff for new entrants to join, got removed from the table. Stacks for players who have joined, but are just gone, won't get removed, but IMHO, if you can't even be bothered to be there and play your stack, you don't really have a right to complain about the other players who are there, choosing among themselves, to check down until your stack is gone. That's probably my #1 gripe about people joining tourneys, never showing up, and their no-play stacks out-last people actually playing to survive into a paying position. Still not relevant to your issue tho, but it came to mind.
June 03, 2013, 02:26:50 PM
When there are only 2 players remaining in a cash game and you are one of them chatting about the hand is fine.
If there are 3 players or more in a hand no one should chat about the hand.
Don't chat about a tournament (including SNGs) hand in progress.
So this is against the rules. I will send warnings. Usually people just don't know.
If there are 3 players or more in a hand no one should chat about the hand.
Don't chat about a tournament (including SNGs) hand in progress.
Can I get a collusion ruling from admin please?
I was playing a plo8guar. There where six players left. 2 players where in a pot hu with same stacks. Player asked other player to check it down. Can I have a ruling from admin on whether this is deemed collusion please?
I was playing a plo8guar. There where six players left. 2 players where in a pot hu with same stacks. Player asked other player to check it down. Can I have a ruling from admin on whether this is deemed collusion please?
So this is against the rules. I will send warnings. Usually people just don't know.
June 03, 2013, 12:53:43 PM
If you have 2 people left, and one asks to check it down, openly, I don't see any problem with that. The other person has no obligation to honor that. They could keep checking it down, until the last possible moment for action, and then that player pushes all-in if they want to. Neither is bound to honor 'check it down?'
Since they are the only two left active, and are open about it for all to see, what is the problem?
Since they are the only two left active, and are open about it for all to see, what is the problem?
There were others in the hand, they were just not currently connected.
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If they were colluding in private pretending to not be doing so I would agree, that's a problem and needs to be dealt with, but openly agreeing to check it down, I don't think counts as 'colluding'.
This would not be tolerated in any poker tournament I am aware of. Where have you seen this done in tournaments?
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This kind of table talk I have seen lots of times at real tables. Most of the time when chopping blinds, where the last two remaining players ask and agree to an action.
Chopping blinds in a cash game has nothing to do with explicit collusion in a tournament, and is between the blinds. Some people routinely agree to do it if it folds around to the blinds, others don't. It's nobody's business who isn't in the hand. Apples and oranges.
June 03, 2013, 12:33:22 PM
If you have 2 people left, and one asks to check it down, openly, I don't see any problem with that. The other person has no obligation to honor that. They could keep checking it down, until the last possible moment for action, and then that player pushes all-in if they want to. Neither is bound to honor 'check it down?'
Since they are the only two left active, and are open about it for all to see, what is the problem?
If they were colluding in private pretending to not be doing so I would agree, that's a problem and needs to be dealt with, but openly agreeing to check it down, I don't think counts as 'colluding'.
This kind of table talk I have seen lots of times at real tables. Most of the time when chopping blinds, where the last two remaining players ask and agree to an action.
If those two were doing so consistently, then maybe it would be worth investigating.
My 2 cents...
-- Smoov
Since they are the only two left active, and are open about it for all to see, what is the problem?
If they were colluding in private pretending to not be doing so I would agree, that's a problem and needs to be dealt with, but openly agreeing to check it down, I don't think counts as 'colluding'.
This kind of table talk I have seen lots of times at real tables. Most of the time when chopping blinds, where the last two remaining players ask and agree to an action.
If those two were doing so consistently, then maybe it would be worth investigating.
My 2 cents...
-- Smoov
June 03, 2013, 10:53:52 AM
I did ask admin either free money or micon as it is their vote that counts . Lets wait for their reply and whatever it is will be good enough for me even though previous poster is agreeing with me. I agree with checking down without verbalizing and asking for check down in chat is fine but requesting a check down verbally or in chatbox is not.
June 03, 2013, 10:47:05 AM
Can I get a collusion ruling please?
I was playing a plo8guar. There where six players left. 2 players where in a pot hu with same stacks. Player asked other player to check it down. Can I have a ruling from admin on whether this is deemed collusion please?
I was playing a plo8guar. There where six players left. 2 players where in a pot hu with same stacks. Player asked other player to check it down. Can I have a ruling from admin on whether this is deemed collusion please?
There's really only one ruling here consistent with how poker is played live and elsewhere, and that is that it is perfectly acceptable to check it down like that, but not to say to do it. "Implicit collusion" is okay, but once it becomes explicit collusion, that's cheating.
June 03, 2013, 10:38:45 AM
Can I get a collusion ruling from admin please?
I was playing a plo8guar. There where six players left. 2 players where in a pot hu with same stacks. Player asked other player to check it down. Can I have a ruling from admin on whether this is deemed collusion please?
I was playing a plo8guar. There where six players left. 2 players where in a pot hu with same stacks. Player asked other player to check it down. Can I have a ruling from admin on whether this is deemed collusion please?
June 03, 2013, 04:34:53 AM
WSOP update: bricked so far. Lots of action left though. Team SwC all over Pokernews with hats and patches (brett jungblut, scott fischman, jon eaton, justin schwartz, bryan micon)
The current distribution method for hats & patches: holler at me at the Rio. If you are at WSOP and want SwC swag, get at me on twitter @bryanmicon
TYVM for playing SwC | doing work at this year's WSOP should spread bitcoin awareness this summer.
The current distribution method for hats & patches: holler at me at the Rio. If you are at WSOP and want SwC swag, get at me on twitter @bryanmicon
TYVM for playing SwC | doing work at this year's WSOP should spread bitcoin awareness this summer.
June 02, 2013, 11:45:27 PM
is the 100 chip giveaways still going on? If it is then could I request 100 chips to my new account Wickwicky
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
That's long expired, sorry. Do try the hourly freeroll if you need help getting started.
June 02, 2013, 08:13:06 PM
Click on 'profile', then click on 'forum profile information' from the list on the left side of the screen.
Good looking out jim. Played in the 40btc first time. Dead last in 14th with 14 to go get 10 10 shove 2500 2 callers 10 on flop 2 spades. Running spade and river players show six six and six six on 2 all in calls the end. Ty for those that staked me wish could have cashed for you all.
June 02, 2013, 07:58:49 PM
That's long expired, sorry. Do try the hourly freeroll if you need help getting started.
June 02, 2013, 07:48:00 PM
is the 100 chip giveaways still going on? If it is then could I request 100 chips to my new account Wickwicky
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
June 02, 2013, 07:01:05 PM
Not fair to ban me on my joeyjmr8484 account. And to confiscate my chips? I want back.
They've been distributed and so will chips in any other cheating accounts you manage to play with.
From the FAQ:
SealsWithClubs is the wild, wild west of online poker rooms. SealsWithClubs will vigilantly fight any collusion, cheating or otherwise unfair game manipulation. We reserve the right to handle cheating, collusion, or otherwise unfair play at our sole discretion.
This is so awesome. Nice to see cheaters will not go unpunished.
June 02, 2013, 06:07:45 PM
Click on 'profile', then click on 'forum profile information' from the list on the left side of the screen.
June 02, 2013, 12:06:19 PM
June 02, 2013, 08:17:51 AM
I'm glad administration is being vigilant against colluders/scammers... June 02, 2013, 08:14:14 AM
Not fair to ban me on my joeyjmr8484 account. And to confiscate my chips? I want back.
They've been distributed and so will chips in any other cheating accounts you manage to play with.
From the FAQ:
SealsWithClubs is the wild, wild west of online poker rooms. SealsWithClubs will vigilantly fight any collusion, cheating or otherwise unfair game manipulation. We reserve the right to handle cheating, collusion, or otherwise unfair play at our sole discretion.
This is so awesome. Nice to see cheaters will not go unpunished.
June 02, 2013, 04:49:34 AM
Can you let me back on just one account? My joeyjmr8484 account.
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