Afaik in math you cannot decide a repeating thing is infinite only from 2 "loops".
Iirc from shool (loong ago) you need "reduction to absurdity" for this.
So for now we clearly cannot tell it'll be or not an infinite loop. I hope that a good number of humans are capable to learn. The others .. we can pray they're strong and lucky.
Also the science tries to help. Although I think that the current century's medicine is not worthy of its name (I find it closer to statistics than what medicine should be), they do try to do something - a vaccine, a cure, or at least some hope.
All in all, although it'll take much longer than the official voices want us to believe, it will surely not be infinite loop (actually humanity wouldn't even live that long), instead, sooner or later we'll get to some sort of normality.
An interesting thing is that the statistics tell that because of COVID lock down, this year there were less deaths in my country than last year.
It worth mentioning that we use(d) to be pretty much champions at deaths by road accidents.
Topic: Second COVID-19 wave is coming...Infinite loop? - page 3. (Read 617 times)
The much discussed second wave is here! While many countries e.g. Brazil and USA are still suffering from the first wave, the second wave has already arrived in Europe, after it looked like the crisis was under control for some weeks.
Everywhere in Europa are strongly increasing numbers of infections like in Spain, France, Germany or Croatia. Many areas are once again being declared risk areas. Will this be the last wave and if not, will it bring the economy to its knees with unforeseeable consequences to the world?
Everywhere in Europa are strongly increasing numbers of infections like in Spain, France, Germany or Croatia. Many areas are once again being declared risk areas. Will this be the last wave and if not, will it bring the economy to its knees with unforeseeable consequences to the world?
I don't think it will go to infinite loops because already Russia and China government has declared about COVID vaccine. I think at the end of the year we will come across more countries vaccine. So we can hope for as early as possible recover of COVID. So when it come to control of us economy will back its previous stage gradually and already maximum countries economy going back their previous stage slowly. It only possible to infinite loop if another more dangerous pandemic come with another virus at this situation otherwise no tension about it.
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I think the world economy will continue to be difficult until the end of next year if the disease is not pushed back. Covid 19 vaccine will be a way to stabilize the world. When the economic downturn is caused by a pandemic, people will spend more money, the whole society does not create as much goods as before. The rich continue to be richer and the poor are poorer. The evidence is that stocks in financial markets have risen higher than before. S&P500 has risen higher than before.
I believe that after this economic recession, conflict between classes in society will continue to increase.
I believe that after this economic recession, conflict between classes in society will continue to increase.
I don't think anything can be said until the vaccine is available. If the second COVID-19 wave comes it is going to be much more deadly than the first. The second wave will actually exhaust everything at the rate at which the economy has been damaged in the first place. the second wave is more likely not to come. Russia is in the process of creating the virus and is moving forward. if successful, it will be possible to cure the virus.
The vaccine is already here and i believe that this cure will be spread within this year to totally stop this virus and the world start up again as new normal.
There has been vaccine that had been released around the world. First is the Sputnik V created by the RussiansAnother is the Lianhua Qingwen from China. Although this one isn't a vaccine but they says that it helps to at least lessen the cases of COVID19.
There are some which are at work as of this moment but I'm not expecting for a working vaccine until next year. The Vaccine that Russia created skipped some of its clinical trials that is why many are doubting on it even though it gives promising results in the patients in their country.
But indeed that the second wave is more dangerous than the first.
I expect it will be more dangerous than the first or maybe it is happening already. There is a possibility that the 2nd wave came already and its just we didn't noticed it. Regarding the infinite loop, as long as there is a working vaccine already that has been approved then there is a chance that the loop will stop but the virus will not disappear anymore for sure. 
The vaccine is already here and i believe that this cure will be spread within this year to totally stop this virus and the world start up again as new normal.
But indeed that the second wave is more dangerous than the first.
But indeed that the second wave is more dangerous than the first.
The much discussed second wave is here! While many countries e.g. Brazil and USA are still suffering from the first wave, the second wave has already arrived in Europe, after it looked like the crisis was under control for some weeks.
Everywhere in Europa are strongly increasing numbers of infections like in Spain, France, Germany or Croatia. Many areas are once again being declared risk areas. Will this be the last wave and if not, will it bring the economy to its knees with unforeseeable consequences to the world?
Everywhere in Europa are strongly increasing numbers of infections like in Spain, France, Germany or Croatia. Many areas are once again being declared risk areas. Will this be the last wave and if not, will it bring the economy to its knees with unforeseeable consequences to the world?
Knowing that they taken into consider that the Second Wave of the corona virus is coming, its good that they know that they are credible for what will happen throughout the months when the Corona Virus affects them. It will still surely affect most economic statuses of different countries and I'm sure that they can recover since they already defeated them once and surely can defeat them again.
The best solution to this problem that the world is having now is to find a cure or vaccine 
. Apart from this, I don’t think that people around the world are ready to stop their jobs that they are doing to put food on their table because of this covid19. And apart from the fact that there will be hunger, if we decide to stop the work we are doing because of this covid19 that means the economy stands another risk of falling to the low range again.
Moreover, I have been seeing some news that some countries have discovered a cure. Just like Madagascar herbal drink that is claimed would cure the virus. WHO has said it will go through clinical trials before being approved. Then I saw a news that Russia has also discovered a cure.
. Apart from this, I don’t think that people around the world are ready to stop their jobs that they are doing to put food on their table because of this covid19. And apart from the fact that there will be hunger, if we decide to stop the work we are doing because of this covid19 that means the economy stands another risk of falling to the low range again.Moreover, I have been seeing some news that some countries have discovered a cure. Just like Madagascar herbal drink that is claimed would cure the virus. WHO has said it will go through clinical trials before being approved. Then I saw a news that Russia has also discovered a cure.
I think it is expected to have a second wave since there's no vaccine yet and given the fact how easy this virus can pass to one another.
Here in our country there's no sign that the virus is already under control because each day the number of cases are still increasing and it seems a normal scenario for us.
Some people cant stay at home due to lack of food. They are coerce to work despite of the risk outside getting infected. Our government has no budget already and cant afford to sustain the needs of the citizens so people should work to balance the economy.
Here in our country there's no sign that the virus is already under control because each day the number of cases are still increasing and it seems a normal scenario for us.
Some people cant stay at home due to lack of food. They are coerce to work despite of the risk outside getting infected. Our government has no budget already and cant afford to sustain the needs of the citizens so people should work to balance the economy.
Never thought that we will be experiencing the 2nd wave.
The frustrating part here is that our country is not even done with the first wave, then here comes the second wave, HIV might be, but Covid-19? I don't think so. The government are still waiting for the vaccine of Russia to come, while we are still being the lab rats of that country, I hope they would find a way to quickly trace people so we would not have these problems. I know it is not just the government, it is also the people. I think we will be like this for another year.
The frustrating part here is that our country is not even done with the first wave, then here comes the second wave, HIV might be, but Covid-19? I don't think so. The government are still waiting for the vaccine of Russia to come, while we are still being the lab rats of that country, I hope they would find a way to quickly trace people so we would not have these problems. I know it is not just the government, it is also the people. I think we will be like this for another year.
The first wave we had experienced was already a big toll towards our world health and economies that many suffered and died for this pandemic. I don't think we may be able to recover soon enough if this second wave will come to us and hit us again at full force. If only all people can follow simple health protocols few months ago, we already won this fight but sad to say we are far away from become winners due to people lack of self-discipline when out in the public. People negligence will only bring more suffering and only delay the recoveries we longing few months ago.
That can easily be observed among people even in cities where the number of infected cases is still climbing fast. However, the governments cannot just ignore the fact that rising infection causes hospitals to overflow with patients and that it forces a lot of economic activities to stop thereby resulting to rising unemployment and growing poverty incidence. So while we cannot be walking on eggshells all the time, the governments have to somehow instill to the public mind that there is still an unseen monster out there.
I wonder how or would it be even make a sense? People are becoming fed up with those warnings (the picture you have, best portrays the idea). Well they aren't taking the threat this virus can do any longer. Like the lack of social distancing inside the train one month ago, read here, people not wearing mask when in public places, gatherings, and whatnot. Not sure if they're forgetting or they are just I-don't-care-as-I-need-to-work-to-get-money type of guy or whatever reasons they have. Yeah... reminders were there but I don't think that it will be enough to discipline them. I'm not sure anymore though, even a strict a protocol tend to be violated easily . Getting those vaccines ready as soon as possible, were the only hope we have now. 
The fact that there is currently the reign of terror that is created is not on Covid and its effects on health, but there is a transition of thinking from the society that it is more important to think about the economy than to think about how to stem Covid. It seems as if Covid has metamorphosed from extraordinary to ordinary. Even though almost all countries are affected by a recession due to Corona, the different conditions of the resilience of each country have different effects. The condition of the European recession is certainly different from the condition of the Asian recession because of its different initial position.
In pandemic conditions like this, holding power seems irrelevant, because there are very few options and maneuvers that a ruler can do. The government is required to protect sources of income as well as provide stimulus, must safeguard state assets and reserves as well as avoid budget deficits by holding back spending, but must continue to carry out routine spending.
In pandemic conditions like this, holding power seems irrelevant, because there are very few options and maneuvers that a ruler can do. The government is required to protect sources of income as well as provide stimulus, must safeguard state assets and reserves as well as avoid budget deficits by holding back spending, but must continue to carry out routine spending.
Vaccine needs a lot of time and effort to see its full potential, it needs to be observed for so many years to test its effectiveness in the long run.
Probably, this Covid-19 will last longer than we expected because vaccines are risky if we injected it to people immediately. It can somehow help us become immune right now, but there are a lot of possible side effect that it can affect a person permanently. If we have no choice then we need to settle with that newly discovered vaccine.
Second wave are most probably coming to us if people continuously become stubborn towards the safety protocols and rules regarding this pandemic.
Probably, this Covid-19 will last longer than we expected because vaccines are risky if we injected it to people immediately. It can somehow help us become immune right now, but there are a lot of possible side effect that it can affect a person permanently. If we have no choice then we need to settle with that newly discovered vaccine.
Second wave are most probably coming to us if people continuously become stubborn towards the safety protocols and rules regarding this pandemic.
The much discussed second wave is here! While many countries e.g. Brazil and USA are still suffering from the first wave, the second wave has already arrived in Europe, after it looked like the crisis was under control for some weeks.
Everywhere in Europa are strongly increasing numbers of infections like in Spain, France, Germany or Croatia. Many areas are once again being declared risk areas. Will this be the last wave and if not, will it bring the economy to its knees with unforeseeable consequences to the world?
Because of this covid our country now is on the big debt now that even our president is crying on it while many of the citizens here don’t even have a exact food for a day. Because of covid the world’s economy is really crashing. No one knows when it will end but as of now we need to be careful and wise. Everywhere in Europa are strongly increasing numbers of infections like in Spain, France, Germany or Croatia. Many areas are once again being declared risk areas. Will this be the last wave and if not, will it bring the economy to its knees with unforeseeable consequences to the world?
Yes we are really experiencing the second wave right now, even in asian countries, the positive cases is badly increasing day by day. Most of the people are getting comfortable around and they are ignoring government warnings, they are celebrating too much and have forgotten the threat of the virus so this is the result of stubbornness. We are all waiting for the vaccine to be developed, but sadly because of what happening now scientists are in a hurry to launch the vaccine even if it is not yet fully tested. Just follow the government guidelines and taking care of ourselves is the best weapon during this time.
All of this will only stop upon the release of effective vaccines or medications.
That, or when society stops overreacting to the threat the virus poses. I'm hoping an effective vaccine is in the pipeline, but I also hope people come to their senses and stop thinking this is an Ebola outbreak or something similar.
https://starecat.com/fear-corona-vs-corona-cases-march-june-comparison-keanu-reeves/
That can easily be observed among people even in cities where the number of infected cases is still climbing fast. However, the governments cannot just ignore the fact that rising infection causes hospitals to overflow with patients and that it forces a lot of economic activities to stop thereby resulting to rising unemployment and growing poverty incidence. So while we cannot be walking on eggshells all the time, the governments have to somehow instill to the public mind that there is still an unseen monster out there.
It is true that the second wave is coming, as long as the health protocol cannot be run in a disciplined manner and a vaccine has not yet been found.
Will continue to emerge the next wave, I hope that the vaccine that is in the trial phase will be successful, so we can all live normally again.Because
the situation is now getting worse, because several countries are starting to see their spread increasing again. May we all be granted the strength to
face this situation.
Will continue to emerge the next wave, I hope that the vaccine that is in the trial phase will be successful, so we can all live normally again.Because
the situation is now getting worse, because several countries are starting to see their spread increasing again. May we all be granted the strength to
face this situation.
Since the virus is mutating and have so many variants, we can't expect one vaccine to be potent as expected. But it is true that with the vaccine, we can have a lil bit peace of mind mingling with others as sometimes you can't avoid interacting with people in your everyday activities. But right now, I think the best way to combat this is to make sure that we are in good health condition. As much as possible no vices like smoking or drinking.
Tge second wave has already happen. Most of the asian countries had already experiencing it where high cases has been recorded and now it somehow settles down. But covid is still there and some countries are rushing to make a vaccine.
The problem with the vaccine is that most of it was being made rush and the problem is its side effect. we know that vaccine coule make the covid 19 virus worst if scientist will not be careful enough by rushing things in making the vaccine. Anyway, I hope that it will be successful unlike the dengvaxia vaccine.
The problem with the vaccine is that most of it was being made rush and the problem is its side effect. we know that vaccine coule make the covid 19 virus worst if scientist will not be careful enough by rushing things in making the vaccine. Anyway, I hope that it will be successful unlike the dengvaxia vaccine.
It is true that the second wave is coming, as long as the health protocol cannot be run in a disciplined manner and a vaccine has not yet been found.
Will continue to emerge the next wave, I hope that the vaccine that is in the trial phase will be successful, so we can all live normally again.Because
the situation is now getting worse, because several countries are starting to see their spread increasing again. May we all be granted the strength to
face this situation.
Will continue to emerge the next wave, I hope that the vaccine that is in the trial phase will be successful, so we can all live normally again.Because
the situation is now getting worse, because several countries are starting to see their spread increasing again. May we all be granted the strength to
face this situation.
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