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Topic: Second COVID-19 wave is coming...Infinite loop? - page 4. (Read 617 times)

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The much discussed second wave is here! While many countries e.g. Brazil and USA are still suffering from the first wave, the second wave has already arrived in Europe, after it looked like the crisis was under control for some weeks.
Everywhere in Europa are strongly increasing numbers of infections like in Spain, France, Germany or Croatia. Many areas are once again being declared risk areas. Will this be the last wave and if not, will it bring the economy to its knees with unforeseeable consequences to the world?
But if you checked the source of this virus Wuhan they are now almost Covid free and from empty streets a lot of pools are now packed so are buildings parks and public places they are almost back in business.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53816511

Yes, I see Spain badly, it has more numbers of infections.
With an imminent 2nd wave of Covid19 infections whose inhabitants did not respect the new normal. We are still living with Coronavirus, there is no cure and we are vulnerable. This celebration in Wuhan, China was not very well regarded by public opinion on Twitter. Nor am I happy about their celebration because day by day I fight for my family for survival to protect them from the virus.
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The much discussed second wave is here! While many countries e.g. Brazil and USA are still suffering from the first wave, the second wave has already arrived in Europe, after it looked like the crisis was under control for some weeks.
Everywhere in Europa are strongly increasing numbers of infections like in Spain, France, Germany or Croatia. Many areas are once again being declared risk areas. Will this be the last wave and if not, will it bring the economy to its knees with unforeseeable consequences to the world?
Many countires are not interested in reporting about the real statistics because it gets big hit on their revenue chain so it seems media is saying that things are going to be okay soon since vaccines are going to be available for us in real soon.Here in my country as well the cases are not flattened yet from the first wave and it is getting worse day by day but nothing here to lockdown since everything is opened with the name of lockdown relaxation and almost 90% of old scenario is back.

The very problem of each government around, they are risking the people to make sure that the economy will
survive, allowing business to operate again and people to go back outside.
This virus are continuously hitting more people, so instead of limiting the virus or containing the virus it's more
likely to spread as carriers are at large.
Second wave is very dangerous if the vaccine that being introduced is not capable of curing the current virus.
We all need to hope for the best.
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the impact generated by the second wave is unlikely to be as severe as the first.. I see that most countries are already thinking more about the economic impact than this "pandemic", governments around the world are aware that the spread of this disease can no longer be controlled, so they are more focused on recovering their countries' economies faster.  the fact is that the residents no longer care about this "pandemic", like what happened in my city, as many as 80% of the residents leave the house not wearing masks anymore, the residents are really tired panic over this "pandemic"..
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It can happen there is a second wave and thereafter because many do not comply with government protocol rules I see now that many vacation spots are open and big concerts in some Europe it is not impossible to have a big effect on the second wave because with indiscipline people can make it fatal to everyone because this impact is so great.
The government continues to suppress the number of infected will be able to reduce it from before but if the residents do not obey the rules then this will destroy all of them.
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It is very sad news for all. Corona has already badly affected the world's economy, business, service sector and specially education. It is very much necessary to control Corona Virus in any way. Otherwise we have to face a tragic future.
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The much discussed second wave is here! While many countries e.g. Brazil and USA are still suffering from the first wave, the second wave has already arrived in Europe, after it looked like the crisis was under control for some weeks.
Everywhere in Europa are strongly increasing numbers of infections like in Spain, France, Germany or Croatia. Many areas are once again being declared risk areas. Will this be the last wave and if not, will it bring the economy to its knees with unforeseeable consequences to the world?
Many countires are not interested in reporting about the real statistics because it gets big hit on their revenue chain so it seems media is saying that things are going to be okay soon since vaccines are going to be available for us in real soon.Here in my country as well the cases are not flattened yet from the first wave and it is getting worse day by day but nothing here to lockdown since everything is opened with the name of lockdown relaxation and almost 90% of old scenario is back.
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The much discussed second wave is here! While many countries e.g. Brazil and USA are still suffering from the first wave, the second wave has already arrived in Europe, after it looked like the crisis was under control for some weeks.
Everywhere in Europa are strongly increasing numbers of infections like in Spain, France, Germany or Croatia. Many areas are once again being declared risk areas. Will this be the last wave and if not, will it bring the economy to its knees with unforeseeable consequences to the world?
But if you checked the source of this virus Wuhan they are now almost Covid free and from empty streets a lot of pools are now packed so are buildings parks and public places they are almost back in business.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53816511
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The much discussed second wave is here! While many countries e.g. Brazil and USA are still suffering from the first wave, the second wave has already arrived in Europe, after it looked like the crisis was under control for some weeks.
Everywhere in Europa are strongly increasing numbers of infections like in Spain, France, Germany or Croatia. Many areas are once again being declared risk areas. Will this be the last wave and if not, will it bring the economy to its knees with unforeseeable consequences to the world?
I think China is not included in a second wave because now they are already celebrating and opening their country in a normal situation. Unlike the other country that still facing a great number of covid positive. In my country,i don't know if we are already in a second wave because so far the covid case are still keep on increasing but the government already impose a relatively loose quarantine implementation due to economic problem. They said the economy is no longer capable of continuing to lockdown,people need to work even covid virus keep on spreading everywhere.
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I don't know but I slowly lose my beliefs with how dangerous this pandemic is. I felt like this is a business related PLANdemic.
I wouldn't go so far as to say this is a big conspiracy, but the world's reaction to COVID-19 has been way out of proportion to the actual threat it poses--so I'd say you're 100% justified in starting to think this isn't as bad as governments and media outlets are saying.

Seasonal flu is an "infinite loop" of viral infection and this could turn out to be just like that.  The world can't stay locked up forever, though.  Life has to go on, whether there's a risk of infection or not. 

All of this will only stop upon the release of effective vaccines or medications.
That, or when society stops overreacting to the threat the virus poses.  I'm hoping an effective vaccine is in the pipeline, but I also hope people come to their senses and stop thinking this is an Ebola outbreak or something similar.
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Perhaps today we can already observe the second wave of coronavirus. I live in Ukraine and today, over the last 24 hours, the Ministry of Health has recorded the largest number of cases, and there were no such daily indicators at the beginning of a pandemic. If before the current period we observed a certain decline in the incidence, now the opposite trend is taking place. It is possible that this is due to the indiscipline of citizens and due to ignorance of the elementary rules to combat the spread of the virus.
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Everywhere in Europa are strongly increasing numbers of infections like in Spain, France, Germany or Croatia. Many areas are once again being declared risk areas. Will this be the last wave and if not, will it bring the economy to its knees with unforeseeable consequences to the world?

The drastic increase in the number of infected people has primarily appeared in countries that have almost completely opened up due to tourism - and here we can take the examples of Spain or Croatia. The number of people entering and leaving these countries is an ideal factor for the spread of the virus, and on the example of Croatia we can see that the second wave is almost twice as strong as the first with approximately 200 new cases every day.

The following infographic clearly shows what happens when you go from a full lockdown to a full opening.


When the flow of people in these countries decreases (and the tourist season is coming to an end), I believe that the number of infected people will also decrease. It is especially important to note that the largest percentage of newly infected are young people who became infected in nightclubs, which in my opinion is something that should have been absolutely banned. However, the good news is that the number of deaths is very small, and that several vaccines are already in the final stages of testing and could be applied this year.

As far as I know, no country will go into complete lockdown anymore - unless the situation worsens drastically, which I doubt again because now we still know what we are dealing with and the availability of protective equipment is much better than in the first wave.
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Even in China, they can't eliminate the virus 100% because of the people who are violating the rules again.
As I've checked their covid-19 cases in their country via Wikipedia, they reached less than 100 active cases in April or May. But right now, they have almost 600 active cases, I think that's the second wave that they are experiencing. They go back to normal even if there's still a risk of getting the disease in their country.
Based on my observations, I think this Covid-19 will not be eliminated perfectly, this has a lot of potential to become a normal disease just like HIV, Ebola, Malaria, and etc.
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The world's economy is already on its knees during the first wave. It hasn't recovered yet since then, although it is already on its way, albeit slowly. A second wave would certainly stunt any progress of recovery.

This is going to be very bad for every country's economy. Unemployment and poverty rate would certainly continue to increase along with the increase of infected individuals. The ripple effect of this pandemic would extend up to a country's education, human rights, productivity, psychological health, and so on and so forth. 

All of this will only stop upon the release of effective vaccines or medications.
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This "COVID-19 second wave" is not surprising and I bet there will be third wave, fourth wave and so on and so forth, not until people become disciplined enough to observe religiously health protocols to help eradicate this pandemic.

Now we can't deny that a sudden surge of infections in some countries known to have made progress in fighting the disease (e.g. Italy) may have been due to people's hard headedness, clumsiness, etc.. in following recommended protocols coupled with the Government's dangerous policies (e.g. easing of restrictions / protocols) all of which should be resolve immediately. Imho.
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The much discussed second wave is here! While many countries e.g. Brazil and USA are still suffering from the first wave, the second wave has already arrived in Europe, after it looked like the crisis was under control for some weeks.
Everywhere in Europa are strongly increasing numbers of infections like in Spain, France, Germany or Croatia. Many areas are once again being declared risk areas. Will this be the last wave and if not, will it bring the economy to its knees with unforeseeable consequences to the world?

I don't think it will go on forever. Yes, few countries have been hit by the second wave of covid now. Even in China, we are hearing news about new covid positive patients and many companies have again sent their employees to work from home. Even my company has again closed down their office in Beijing few weeks back.

But it can't go on forever. Entire world is trying to bring a vaccine for this and I strongly believe something effective will be found shortly. Also businesses are now more resilient in this new normal. So the kind of effect it had during its first wave, the same impact will not be seen during the second wave and even in third wave if any.

The vaccine is just a matter of time and the entire world is waiting for that. Let's just hope for the best!
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I have not heard much news about other countries but in my country, we're still far from ending the first wave. I believe that the virus will continue spreading while there's still no vaccine available. Even some countries that were able to flatten the curve, they still have new cases which are kinda inevitable since countries have already lifted the travel ban.

I'm not sure if you heard about it but a pool party was held in Wuhan where the virus started. I just find it risky even if they were able to do a good job handling the virus since there is still a possibility that it might spread. And while a lot of countries are still struggling with the pandemic, they are having a party with no mask and social distancing.
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The truth is no one really knows.  This is all new to everyone, so we are learning new stuff almost every second of every day being that this is a nascent virus.  I had a yearly physical yesterday and my Dr told me he's yet to know of anyone who's gotten it twice, or heard of it in the medical community.  I don't think there's really been a "second wave" anywhere yet.
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I don't think there will be a second or third wave. Russia has already launched a vaccine against Covid-19. Many European countries have made an order. In the coming months, China is also releasing its vaccine. Therefore, I think it's not worth waiting for a repetition of such a pandemic. The only thing that worries many is the attitude towards compulsory vaccination. Well this, I think, will be everyone's choice.
right, totally agree that it is unthinkable that there will be a second wave pandemic and so on. China has given the vaccine it has to be tested in my country and adjusted to the cultural conditions of my country, and the stage that has been done is already in the third phase, aka it has reached humans, it is just a matter of waiting for developments whether it is successful or not, if it is successful it will be mass produced.

but the latest news is that one of the universities in my country has found a cure for the Covid-19 pandemic and is just waiting for permission from the government to be mass produced. This is renewable news and is not like a vaccine if this drug has been proven to be 90% used and successful.
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I don't think there will be a second or third wave. Russia has already launched a vaccine against Covid-19. Many European countries have made an order. In the coming months, China is also releasing its vaccine. Therefore, I think it's not worth waiting for a repetition of such a pandemic. The only thing that worries many is the attitude towards compulsory vaccination. Well this, I think, will be everyone's choice.
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The world seems to coming to terms this is a real situation we are all in now and if we are to continue on with this new normal, we need to make sacrifices in the way of living our lives.
Schools and universities were reopening in some states but after just a week of it they turned away students from gathering in those classed theatres and changed it to attending their classes remotely by teaching them online instead.
The key to have this work is the world needs to adjust to this panademic situation and to not just brush it off as "it will just go away".
As I have seen a cruise ship company has allowed a bunch of passengers to go on a month long passage to multiple stops in places into Italy ports.
And found myself saying, isn't it too soon to have people going to the most red area at the start of all this and be confined in a limited space with condensing the problem if just one person tests positive one day of that month? Embarrassed
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