Topic: [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source - page 2. (Read 53186 times)

Meanwhile, I have 4000 sMerits waiting for worthy posts.

A large number of users believe that merit is the holy grail, and also that older members do not want to give merit to their posts. Many accusations that the merit system is unfair to new and lower-ranked members.
Then we have a thread like this, where it is openly offered to link quality posts to be rewarded with merit, and then you get a suggestion where you need to translate the whole thread from Indonesian to find a post worth merit. A little effort is not amiss if you require someone else to pay attention to you.

You're linking to a locked topic with a Merit earning quiz. If he has done great work, you should post links to those great posts.

I stumbled across the topic on the Indonesian local board. The OP has done great work on the local board and I feel like it did not receive the merit it deserved. I don't know if you guys think it deserves more but here is the link

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5494874

I can't say you're wrong, but I can't fully say you're right. The distribution of merit on local Indonesian board sometimes goes up and down in different months, of course this is due to the low number of users who distribute their merit to various posts that are considered quality (including by merit source). On the other hand, I don't know the reason why local merit sources have become less active in distributing their merit in the thread you mentioned in the last few months. But you and me can't always force them to help because basically they have their own reasons which are very subjective.

I can understand you correctly because you really hope that more merit sources will help local users get more merit to rank up. In fact, I personally did this in the past (asking for several global merit sources) because of my concern for fellow local users when the number of merit circulating among users was very low. This sometimes works, but it is not the responsibility of the global merit source to continue to keep the number of merit circulating at locally increasing when we have more than 2 local merit sources ourselves.

But first, thank you for bringing this thread to this topic even though I have actually dedicated myself to continuing to help many local users to rank up with the merit that I have so far. Unfortunately I am not a merit source whose merit will be replenished every month, if I had then I would always help them every time I find the quality of the posts reported.

Thanks for that, LoyceV. I will and will continue to use the sMerit I receive from any user to help anyone at there, especially in the thread referenced by Arenga pinnata.

I had not seen that flag, and I was not following that thread.. .. but yeah, that may well be a good thread to follow, since some forum members are doing a decent amount of work to identify potentially problematic accounts in regards to their either being AI accounts or seeming to be highly reliant on AI to generate their post contents, which even some of the identification of such accounts (posts) might sometimes be difficult or ambiguous, since probably even normal (regular) people might start to generate some (or more) of their contents through some use of AI..

You sure sound like one.

Why would you ever apologize for sharing your opinion? To quote myself:

I'll skip this one. A topic filled with links to posts in a language I don't speak is going to take much more time than I'm willing to spend on it. I dumped some more sMerit on the OP though.

@JayJuanGee, if you haven't seen it yet, there are some doubts that the user @Felicity_Tide is using AI for its posts -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.64077661

I doubt your working to elaborate on these points to justify or explain further is really helpful, instead of just going out there and working harder.. but whatever, you do you. .If you think that it is helpful to repeat these ideas then that's your choice.. I doubt it is helpful. but what do I know?


You can do whatever you like, but if you are irritating other members, then that might be based on your approach, so there likely is a decent amount of value in giving other forum members time to get to know you.. and there are a variety of ways to do such things including that some ways are likely going to be more effective than others.


Well if you read posts of members who have a lot of merits, you might get some ideas, yet at the same time, you need to develop your own style, and surely there can be a mixture of asking questions and providing answers, or personal experiences and/or input that others might find helpful... The longer that you are around, then the more likely other members get to know you, but still it can take quite a bit of time, and so it is true that sometimes newbies or relative newbies might not receive merits for some of their good posts.. yet both Igebotz and I suggested that it may well not be a good idea to try to rush the process, yet again, hey you can do what you like.


No problem, as long as you are not making errors on purpose, which might be read and/or considered as trolling - or some members might get turned off if they feel like you are merely asking questions that you should be able to easily answer.. I cannot really describe all situations, so sure you can try to figure out some ways in which you are both contributing and asking questions, so that you do not appear to be being lazy in terms of your own contribution to the ideas that might end up framing your questions.


Do you feel restricted in some kind of a way?  Forum members might give their opinions, but those opinions may or may not reflect actual forum policies.

I actually thought of that before, but I keep updating the thread every weekend so just dropping the link to the full thread here was an idea I taught would help not to litter this thread with so many links from over there. If any merit can visit once in a while would be fine, but if I must then I would update the quality post every week over here so any merit source can assist also.

I tried to work up the courage to come to this thread which always seems to get a lot of visits from Merit sources. Maybe this was driven by my concern about the Indonesian Local Board, which actually currently always has a lot of quality posts but many of them have not received Merits. And actually there is a special thread on the local Indonesian board which collects posts that are considered quality by the users themselves. But lately, especially in 2024, I see that it is rare for Sumber Merit to come there and check it.


And maybe I will bring the topic here and maybe there will be a Merit Source who can visit it when they have free time and review some of the submitted posts there. Which would actually probably be worthy of a Merit award.

Here is the topic: [HELP]Bantuan untuk menaikkan Rank (Newbie s.d Hero) V.2 [UPDATE]

My sincere apologies to everyone if my statement came in an offensive manner. By saying " I can't really be the judge of whether I make quality posts", it was my own way of saying: I am not perfect in terms of writing something so as to remove any form of pride from my actual statement. Without any denial, I think I might have been anticipating for merit but I haven't done anything illegal to get it either.

Forgive me if am wrong, but It has come to my observation that newbies are expected to do more of questioning rather than creating topics that they might be conversant with. Personally, I would also doubt a newbie if he/she writes something that I did as I clearly understand that so many people can go extreme to get what they want. One of the rule I read in my early days here suggest that writing good post earns you merit, and I literally don't know the forum standard of good post, but choose to continue what am doing and also accepting corrections till I get it right. Does asking questions only gives merit in any way?.

Lastly, i like to ask questions, reply post and also create topics that would trigger correction from the forum members and aid me to learn more. In other words, I totally enjoy it when someone point out my error.

If the forum happens to limit newbies in creating post, then I am read to adjust and do more of replying.


Am always ready to learn from everyone and improve as well. Thanks for the advice.

I was also considering saying something to Felicity_Tide in regards to his eagerness to get merits after ONLY a short time on the forum, and then when I did a quickie look at his prior posts, they were NOT as bad as some other newbies, yet at the same time, I did not look at them as closely as you did Igebotz, so yeah, that helps in terms of making some kind of an assessment regarding the sense that newbies do not really need to get so excited about whether or not they receive merits - especially since most of the newbies who are quality posters will start to receive merits in more or less natural ways - yet, sure there could be some cases in which the quality of posts of the newbies are being overlooked, and maybe even for reasons that are not their fault, such as their participation in threads (such as local boards) in which merit sources are not participating.. .. so in that regard, I am not really opposed to the idea of drawing attention to posts that might be overlooked, yet I had a similar sense as you, Igebotz, that Felicity_Tide was becoming overly eager.. and also Felicity_Tide's line about his not knowing whether his posts are quality or  not seems a bit retarded, even though it does not hurt to have some humbleness in regards to quality of posts, so it is not completely offensive, even though that comment raised some red flags for me.

Another point that many of the longer term forum members will make to the newbies (including yours truly), is to suggest that they figure out some areas of the forum in which they are interested, and largely focus on threads that are related to their interests - including substantively engaging in those topics which means responding to the ideas of the OP or the ideas that are presented by other members in the thread, and sometimes even throwing in some personal examples can be very helpful even if other members might not agree with your conclusions it still can be quite interesting to come across members who are sharing their personal experiences and they do not even need to give up OpSec (operational security) kinds of information (which just means the information does not need to be so personal as to reveal identity, location, financial prowess or other sensitive kinds of information),

and for me, I don't really find any problem in regards to perhaps the newbie members developing (and building) more interests towards bitcoin (even if they might initially not be very interested in bitcoin), since threads that mostly focus on bitcoin are likely going to attract more merit sources and also more likely result in other members inspired to send their smerits to members who are interacting in substantive and meaningful ways in the bitcoin threads and/or the various ideas related to bitcoin.. which surely bitcoin seems to have potentialities to relate to almost anything.. and maybe I am giving away too much in terms of the cheat code to the forum in terms of newbie members (or any other forum member for that matter), if they are able to weave discussions of bitcoin into almost any topic, they are more likely to get attention of other forum members who appreciate those kinds of posts.. especially if the posts are not filled with vague gratuities, which there seem ot be a whole hell of a lot vague gratuities throughout the forum, and sometimes, I regret sending smerits to forum members who I start to notice that they have habits of repetitiously making posts with either vague gratuities or they are citing from other sources (such as twitter or some article) and even though the topic is interesting, they have none of their own words within the post, besides their having had forwarded some outside source about an interesting topic.. So if these members at least make a one or two sentence statement about what the link and article is about and their opinion on the topic, they also would be more likely to inspire other members (with smerits) to share their smerits with that member.

You only registered three weeks ago and have already posted three times in merits giveaway topics, copied and pasted on the technical board, wandered around Meta, and appeared to be lost. Read more, write less. Merits will come 

There's always room for improvement - Use that room.

To your question - you can forward your posts or posts of others.

 . Not a fan of that either.
So what's your reply to my previous question 

Why? Because you copied it from an AI chatbot?

@LoyceV, I have a quick question I must ask before taking any steps. Can I forward my own post or just the posts of others? I can't really be the judge of whether I make quality posts, but those who choose to go through them can easily decide.

Instead of linking the whole thread here, just share the links of the posts that you think deserve some merits from there to here, as it has always been the norm from the time of creation of this thread. By linking the whole merit thread, it's going to get ignored or forgotten by the merit sources after a while as you keep adding links over there (hard to follow up every day)

For about few months now I've been managing a merit reveiw thread on my localboard Nigeria (Naija). I was able to get some help from @ 1maiu who was initially the sponsor of the thread.  Although it has been fine And i have been able to continue this thread for over three months with some earned merits.We currently don't have much merit flow on the Localboard or merit source, so I've been trying to support by rewarding quality posts which are now flooding in every week. Now I am running out of smerits too quickly and I would need some support from merit sources.

Here's the thread
[V1]1miau Campaign for quality post [MERIT THREAD]

Those aren't good posts, they're what I call "generic shitposts". Please don't post here again, you're now on my ignore list.