He's only built for pointless endless loops.
He should be your new avatar, then.
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He's only built for pointless endless loops.
He should be your new avatar, then.
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Because you, and/or whomever it is you are quoting, are confusing love with the byproducts of love which arise when the ego (hence, selfish) gets involved.
Something similar would be like saying "love hurts." No, it doesn't. Jealousy, anger, frustration, etc. are some of these hurtful byproducts.
Another similar example is like saying "I'm worried about you because I care about you," but worrying about someone and giving care to someone are two completely different things.
All of these negative byproducts (jealousy, anger, frustration, worry, etc.) and even the positive ones (lust, pleasure, etc.) are not love. If you experience these and think it's love, you are wrong. These byproducts are intense but shallow; love is subtle but deep. Because the byproducts (the derivations) are intense, they are what are often noticed; because love is subtle, it is not often noticed in it's purest form and rather it is confused like in your quote.
Something similar would be like saying "love hurts." No, it doesn't. Jealousy, anger, frustration, etc. are some of these hurtful byproducts.
Another similar example is like saying "I'm worried about you because I care about you," but worrying about someone and giving care to someone are two completely different things.
All of these negative byproducts (jealousy, anger, frustration, worry, etc.) and even the positive ones (lust, pleasure, etc.) are not love. If you experience these and think it's love, you are wrong. These byproducts are intense but shallow; love is subtle but deep. Because the byproducts (the derivations) are intense, they are what are often noticed; because love is subtle, it is not often noticed in it's purest form and rather it is confused like in your quote.
Stop making sense. You'll overload his circuitry. He's only built for pointless endless loops.
"Selfless love would have to mean that you derive no personal pleasure or happiness from the company and the existence of the person you love, and that you are motivated only by self-sacrificial pity for that person’s need of you. I don’t have to point out to you that no one would be flattered by, nor would accept, a concept of that kind. Love is not self-sacrifice, but the most profound assertion of your own needs and values. It is for your own happiness that you need the person you love, and that is the greatest compliment, the greatest tribute you can pay to that person."
No.
Why?
Because you, and/or whomever it is you are quoting, are confusing love with the byproducts of love which arise when the ego (hence, selfish) gets involved.
Something similar would be like saying "love hurts." No, it doesn't. Jealousy, anger, frustration, etc. are some of these hurtful byproducts.
Another similar example is like saying "I'm worried about you because I care about you," but worrying about someone and giving care to someone are two completely different things.
All of these negative byproducts (jealousy, anger, frustration, worry, etc.) and even the positive ones (lust, pleasure, etc.) are not love. If you experience these and think it's love, you are wrong. These byproducts are intense but shallow; love is subtle but deep. Because the byproducts (the derivations) are intense, they are what are often noticed; because love is subtle, it is not often noticed in it's purest form and rather it is confused like in your quote.
"Selfless love would have to mean that you derive no personal pleasure or happiness from the company and the existence of the person you love, and that you are motivated only by self-sacrificial pity for that person’s need of you. I don’t have to point out to you that no one would be flattered by, nor would accept, a concept of that kind. Love is not self-sacrifice, but the most profound assertion of your own needs and values. It is for your own happiness that you need the person you love, and that is the greatest compliment, the greatest tribute you can pay to that person."
No.
Why?
"Selfless love would have to mean that you derive no personal pleasure or happiness from the company and the existence of the person you love, and that you are motivated only by self-sacrificial pity for that person’s need of you. I don’t have to point out to you that no one would be flattered by, nor would accept, a concept of that kind. Love is not self-sacrifice, but the most profound assertion of your own needs and values. It is for your own happiness that you need the person you love, and that is the greatest compliment, the greatest tribute you can pay to that person."
No.
There are some who say there is no such thing as a "selfless act" - all acts are, at their root, selfish, for the basic reasons in the quote in the OP.
I'm not sure I agree, but there are certainly compelling arguments to make either way.
I'm not sure I agree, but there are certainly compelling arguments to make either way.
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Shut up, Atlas.
What a pile of horsecrap.
I am disappointed, cbeast. I thought you would give me some insight. What a pile of horsecrap.
I am disappointed, cbeast. I thought you would give me some insight.
What a pile of horsecrap.
"Selfless love would have to mean that you derive no personal pleasure or happiness from the company and the existence of the person you love, and that you are motivated only by self-sacrificial pity for that person’s need of you. I don’t have to point out to you that no one would be flattered by, nor would accept, a concept of that kind. Love is not self-sacrifice, but the most profound assertion of your own needs and values. It is for your own happiness that you need the person you love, and that is the greatest compliment, the greatest tribute you can pay to that person."
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