Topic: Sell Everything? - page 73. (Read 101409 times)
are you sure you want to sell? I also really want to sell, but I think this BTC prices will rise again, perhaps this is not in line with forecasts that will go down so far, but I believe the price of BTC still going up again
Stupidest thing to do, to sell everything now, don't follow the mass like lemmings. Price will certainly go
up again when.
up again when.
I think this a regular thing in fact we've experienced anything like this, but people always panic to sell.
Let people panic sell their coins as much as they want. It allows us to buy up their coins and make sure these weak handed people have nothing left to sell. But as always, they will buy back at much higher prices than where they have sold. It's a natural habit for these people.
I guess we will see everything fall and bitcoin rise 
I dont think it will drop below 400 in the next 8 months.
I dont think it will drop below 400 in the next 8 months. 
Stupidest thing to do, to sell everything now, don't follow the mass like lemmings. Price will certainly go
up again when.
up again when.
I think this a regular thing in fact we've experienced anything like this, but people always panic to sell.
Stupidest thing to do, to sell everything now, don't follow the mass like lemmings. Price will certainly go
up again when.
up again when.
I guess we will see everything fall and bitcoin rise I dont think it will drop below 400 in the next 8 months.
Well I guess you are wrong. It fell below $400 today. Why would we want to sell everything? I dont think it will drop below 400 in the next 8 months.
Today everything has been sold,global sell day,stocks all over the world,oil and bitcoin
crash,cash is king
crash,cash is king
well, in case of severe depression the best you could own was gold. but now bitcoin is even better. In the event of a terrible crysis like the one pointed in the article the best choice was to keep both. So, if this is suppose to happen you might wanna start holding
Gold has a long history of being valuable. Bitcoin has only existed for less than 5 years, and it's entire existence has been defined by risk and volatility. If we enter anything resembling a depression, bitcoin is not going to fare well.
Equities to fall 10% to 20%,it is nothing,i think 10% 20% will be just first sell off.Will be more down
If those Scots are right we may see a nice market crash that should also impact Bitcoin. The crash in China did not have any negative influence so maybe a big European one will make the price skyrocket.
well, in case of severe depression the best you could own was gold. but now bitcoin is even better. In the event of a terrible crysis like the one pointed in the article the best choice was to keep both. So, if this is suppose to happen you might wanna start holding
Why everything, i don't think that someone needs to sell everything, this is going in extreme, what if bitcoins crashed what will you do?, sell a part 50% max of the total budget for anyone that planned to invest.
Never listened to Royal Bank of Scotland before. Won't start now. Lol, did you have to search long and hard for a doom-and-gloom article like this? Chances are there's always going to be someone around who's saying such things, like Kwukduck with bitcoins. They could be right but I'm not worried.
No, it was on the WSJ blog. When a major bank says something like this, it tends to grab headlines.
I think this is highly unlikely and this is simply doom mongering and unnecessary.
There are always opportunities if you look in the right place and the world does have issues but we all need to invest well. Oil might go down more, but automation is still not that advanced to worry the developed world...... yet.
There are always opportunities if you look in the right place and the world does have issues but we all need to invest well. Oil might go down more, but automation is still not that advanced to worry the developed world...... yet.
Never listened to Royal Bank of Scotland before. Won't start now. Lol, did you have to search long and hard for a doom-and-gloom article like this? Chances are there's always going to be someone around who's saying such things, like Kwukduck with bitcoins. They could be right but I'm not worried.
Urging everyone to sell everything is the type of thing that causes a huge market crash in the first place... 
You are absolutely right! Most of them just want to speculate the market that's all...
Urging everyone to sell everything is the type of thing that causes a huge market crash in the first place...
Royal Bank of Scotland economists have urged investors to sell everything except high-quality bonds, warning of a “fairly cataclysmic year ahead.”
Writing in a client note dated Jan. 8, the bank’s European rates research team said that clients should be concentrating on return of capital, not return on capital, and that an ominous outlook to the world economy “all looks similar to 2008.”
The Key Points
Source: http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2016/01/12/rbs-warns-sell-everything/?mod=e2fbRBS
A 10 to 20% fall in equities certainly isn't a long shot. QE has produced a long run-up in stock prices, and on average, we see a market correction of 10% every two years and a 20% correction every five years. Still, the advice to "sell everything" seems a bit much.
Writing in a client note dated Jan. 8, the bank’s European rates research team said that clients should be concentrating on return of capital, not return on capital, and that an ominous outlook to the world economy “all looks similar to 2008.”
The Key Points
- The note is particularly bearish on China and global commodities, and predicts that oil could fall as low as $16 a barrel.
- In a grim set of predictions, Andrew Roberts, head of European economics, rates & CEEMEA research said that the world has far too much debt to be able to grow well.
- He also warned that advances in technology and automation are set to wipe out up to half of all jobs in the developed world.
- The note says equities could fall 10% to 20%.
- It predicts the year will be spent focusing on how to exit positions that have benefited from long-running QE, including emerging markets, credit and equities.
Source: http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2016/01/12/rbs-warns-sell-everything/?mod=e2fbRBS
A 10 to 20% fall in equities certainly isn't a long shot. QE has produced a long run-up in stock prices, and on average, we see a market correction of 10% every two years and a 20% correction every five years. Still, the advice to "sell everything" seems a bit much.
For me is everything exaggerated. First I don't believe that in such few time can be something big like that what which is happen at 2008. To not forget that the crisis began at 2008, first, is the second biggest one after the crisis of the '30 and, second, is not you surpassed fully. So, all the world is working to eliminate all the consequences of this crisis and meanwhile are annalists which predict another one similar to that? First of all this mean that everyone has learned nothing from the previous one and I cannot believe that all the other people who worked in this direction are stupid and are not able to learn how to prevent the happening of the same or the similar thing and only the above annalists are good professional. Then (second) how is possible that only the above annalists are so able to understand so very well the overall world economic situation and the other similar of them not?
As for me they want fame.
Downturns in the market are common. RBS is not saying this year is going to be as bad as 2008 (they're not saying it's not either, that's your comparison), they're saying it's going to be a bad year and you should flee to safe assets to preserve capital. The market doesn't only go up or explode in crisis. The market has a down year on average for every two up years, and the 1920s was not the last time the market had a crisis. The market has had significant trouble of varying degrees in the early 2000s, the 1980s, and the 1940s. Downturns are common, and they are a normal and healthy part of the business cycle.
I don't agree or disagree with RBS's analysis that this will be a bad year, only the advice that the reasonable thing to do is sell everything in response.
Royal Bank of Scotland economists have urged investors to sell everything except high-quality bonds, warning of a “fairly cataclysmic year ahead.”
Writing in a client note dated Jan. 8, the bank’s European rates research team said that clients should be concentrating on return of capital, not return on capital, and that an ominous outlook to the world economy “all looks similar to 2008.”
The Key Points
Source: http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2016/01/12/rbs-warns-sell-everything/?mod=e2fbRBS
A 10 to 20% fall in equities certainly isn't a long shot. QE has produced a long run-up in stock prices, and on average, we see a market correction of 10% every two years and a 20% correction every five years. Still, the advice to "sell everything" seems a bit much.
Writing in a client note dated Jan. 8, the bank’s European rates research team said that clients should be concentrating on return of capital, not return on capital, and that an ominous outlook to the world economy “all looks similar to 2008.”
The Key Points
- The note is particularly bearish on China and global commodities, and predicts that oil could fall as low as $16 a barrel.
- In a grim set of predictions, Andrew Roberts, head of European economics, rates & CEEMEA research said that the world has far too much debt to be able to grow well.
- He also warned that advances in technology and automation are set to wipe out up to half of all jobs in the developed world.
- The note says equities could fall 10% to 20%.
- It predicts the year will be spent focusing on how to exit positions that have benefited from long-running QE, including emerging markets, credit and equities.
Source: http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2016/01/12/rbs-warns-sell-everything/?mod=e2fbRBS
A 10 to 20% fall in equities certainly isn't a long shot. QE has produced a long run-up in stock prices, and on average, we see a market correction of 10% every two years and a 20% correction every five years. Still, the advice to "sell everything" seems a bit much.
For me is everything exaggerated. First I don't believe that in such few time can be something big like that what which is happen at 2008. To not forget that the crisis began at 2008, first, is the second biggest one after the crisis of the '30 and, second, is not you surpassed fully. So, all the world is working to eliminate all the consequences of this crisis and meanwhile are annalists which predict another one similar to that? First of all this mean that everyone has learned nothing from the previous one and I cannot believe that all the other people who worked in this direction are stupid and are not able to learn how to prevent the happening of the same or the similar thing and only the above annalists are good professional. Then (second) how is possible that only the above annalists are so able to understand so very well the overall world economic situation and the other similar of them not?
As for me they want fame.
Looks like the new world is ready break out of the cocoon, the most important element of the puzzle, AI, is still missing but we're making progress Once we have AI, it'll be a whole different ball game. I find it fascinating how the human mind has nearly rendered the human body obsolete.
Once we have AI, it'll be a whole different ball game. I find it fascinating how the human mind has nearly rendered the human body obsolete. Jump to: