Selling 17500 shares of GLBSE (actual shares) - page 2.

rapeghost

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Quote from: Shadow383 on October 05, 2012, 10:56:03 AM

Quote from: theymos on October 05, 2012, 10:27:48 AM

Quote from: BurtW on October 05, 2012, 09:48:38 AM

As a major stockholder can you at least tell us that you do know what is going on (Nefario has told you exactly what is going on)?

Not asking you to divulge what is going on, just to tell us you do know what it is.

I don't know what's going on. There is a shareholder meeting later today, and Nefario had better have a damn good excuse for doing this and keeping shareholders in the dark or he's unlikely to be CEO any longer.

Important question:

Do you or any of the other shareholders have access to any of the backups of GLBSE's database?
In the event it gets shut down (by law enforcement or by anything else) we need some way to ensure that stocks can be migrated...

Everything is backed up already.

Shadow383

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Quote from: theymos on October 05, 2012, 10:27:48 AM

Quote from: BurtW on October 05, 2012, 09:48:38 AM

As a major stockholder can you at least tell us that you do know what is going on (Nefario has told you exactly what is going on)?

Not asking you to divulge what is going on, just to tell us you do know what it is.

I don't know what's going on. There is a shareholder meeting later today, and Nefario had better have a damn good excuse for doing this and keeping shareholders in the dark or he's unlikely to be CEO any longer.

Important question:

Do you or any of the other shareholders have access to any of the backups of GLBSE's database?
In the event it gets shut down (by law enforcement or by anything else) we need some way to ensure that stocks can be migrated...

theymos

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Quote from: BurtW on October 05, 2012, 09:48:38 AM

As a major stockholder can you at least tell us that you do know what is going on (Nefario has told you exactly what is going on)?

Not asking you to divulge what is going on, just to tell us you do know what it is.

I don't know what's going on. There is a shareholder meeting later today, and Nefario had better have a damn good excuse for doing this and keeping shareholders in the dark or he's unlikely to be CEO any longer.

Jutarul

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The announcement strategy of Nefario is very irritating. Last topic was something about Yubi-Keys, so he may just refactor the site. However, this is a very unprofessional behavior. This provides a very low incentive to engage into business with the guy.

BurtW

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All paid signature campaigns should be banned.

Quote from: smickles on October 05, 2012, 09:59:41 AM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1244912

That was on October 04, 2012 at 03:36:00 PM.

Maybe (as a major stockholder) he has been able to have a little chat with Nefario since then?

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1244912

smickles

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Quote from: BurtW on October 05, 2012, 09:48:38 AM

Quote from: theymos on October 05, 2012, 08:46:21 AM

Quote from: capn noe on October 05, 2012, 06:22:02 AM

Considering bids under 0.3 now?

Yes.

As a major stockholder can you at least tell us that you do know what is going on (Nefario has told you exactly what is going on)?

Not asking you to divulge what is going on, just to tell us you do know what it is.

I believe he already indicated that he found out about this via a thread on this forum.

BurtW

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All paid signature campaigns should be banned.

Quote from: theymos on October 05, 2012, 08:46:21 AM

Quote from: capn noe on October 05, 2012, 06:22:02 AM

Considering bids under 0.3 now?

Yes.

As a major stockholder can you at least tell us that you do know what is going on (Nefario has told you exactly what is going on)?

Not asking you to divulge what is going on, just to tell us you do know what it is.

theymos

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Quote from: capn noe on October 05, 2012, 06:22:02 AM

Considering bids under 0.3 now?

Yes.

Martin666

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You still want 0.3...?
Maybe GLBSE does not exist anymore after the weekend ?!
Looking forward to Nefarios announcement... Shocked

capn noe

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Considering bids under 0.3 now?

Korbman

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Quote from: Jutarul on September 28, 2012, 02:34:20 PM

Quote from: Korbman on September 28, 2012, 02:31:15 PM

Seems that way sometimes...there seems to be a solid group of intelligent people here, but then they go and dump their savings into Pirate and expect magic Undecided

in reference to:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1188128

HAHA! I totally forgot about that thread...nice for a good laugh this afternoon

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Quote from: Korbman on September 28, 2012, 02:31:15 PM

Seems that way sometimes...there seems to be a solid group of intelligent people here, but then they go and dump their savings into Pirate and expect magic Undecided

in reference to:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1188128

Korbman

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Quote from: Yolocoin on September 28, 2012, 02:21:30 PM

Quote from: MPOE-PR on September 26, 2012, 02:30:14 PM

For the record, this is bullshit. You wanna trade fiat, go trade fiat.

Why trade fiat when there's a nice proven group of suckers here?

+1

Seems that way sometimes...there seems to be a solid group of intelligent people here, but then they go and dump their savings into Pirate and expect magic Undecided

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Quote from: MPOE-PR on September 26, 2012, 02:30:14 PM

For the record, this is bullshit. You wanna trade fiat, go trade fiat.

Why trade fiat when there's a nice proven group of suckers here?

MPOE-PR

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Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on September 25, 2012, 10:26:18 PM

Quote from: sgravina on September 25, 2012, 02:45:36 PM

Quote from: theymos on September 24, 2012, 04:11:21 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Are you selling because the SEC is doing an investigation on GLBSE?

No. As far as I know, the SEC is not investigating GLBSE.

I talked to the SEC lawyer. He asked me about my GLBSE account. So they are investigating GLBSE.

The thing people dont realise is if GLBSE gets taken down by the SEC then all the other bitcoin stock exchanges will follow shortly afterwards because they all sell shares direct to the public. If GLBSE is registered and has qualified financial brokers then selling bitcoin denominated securities is perfectly legal. Someone needs to take this step to bridge bitcoin to the greater economy.

The pink sheets otc market is run exactly like this.

For the record, this is bullshit. You wanna trade fiat, go trade fiat.

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Quote from: DutchBrat on September 26, 2012, 06:02:17 AM

As for KYC/AML: no capital gain taxes is different from money laundering rules and terrorism funding. These days governments are more concerned with those aspects than capital gains.

Oh come on, everybody knows KYC laws exist to fight tax evasion.

But yeah, it might be possible that governments that don't care whether you identify yourself before buying shares force you to do it anyway, due to pressure from strong, income-taxing governments.

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Quote from: caveden on September 26, 2012, 05:50:27 AM

Quote from: DutchBrat on September 26, 2012, 05:17:32 AM

And if Nefario transfers GLBSE to another jurisdiction they can still go after him as they explicitly told him he's not allowed to do it.

Are you saying UK has the habit of forbidding people to do stuff anywhere in the world?
I don't understand why changing jurisdiction would not be possible.

Quote from: DutchBrat on September 26, 2012, 05:17:32 AM

but it will mean KYC/AML etc...so it certainly won't be anonymous, not for the issuers and not for the investors

Is this the case everywhere in the world? There's absolutely no country where investors may buy shares anonymously?
I know there are countries where there's no capital gain taxes. Why would these governments care whether you identify yourself before buying shares?

If the UK authorities have told you that you are doing something 'illegal' in their eyes. You can yourself move outside of their jurisdiction to a place where it is allowed. If however you yourself stay within the UK but only place the exchange in another jurisdiction then they can still go after you.

As for KYC/AML: no capital gain taxes is different from money laundering rules and terrorism funding. These days governments are more concerned with those aspects than capital gains. Most countries (even Switzerland) give bank account information to any country that asks for it. And most off-shore banks ask for information/source of funds received to cover their own ass else they won't accept your business.

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Quote from: DutchBrat on September 26, 2012, 05:17:32 AM

And if Nefario transfers GLBSE to another jurisdiction they can still go after him as they explicitly told him he's not allowed to do it.

Are you saying UK has the habit of forbidding people to do stuff anywhere in the world?
I don't understand why changing jurisdiction would not be possible.

Quote from: DutchBrat on September 26, 2012, 05:17:32 AM

but it will mean KYC/AML etc...so it certainly won't be anonymous, not for the issuers and not for the investors

Is this the case everywhere in the world? There's absolutely no country where investors may buy shares anonymously?
I know there are countries where there's no capital gain taxes. Why would these governments care whether you identify yourself before buying shares?

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nefario said that bitcoins are no money and that he wants to do a simple company registration.
i dont know what his current plans are - but i am (still) interested in the outcome.

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