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legendary
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@tspacepilot, I had a good laugh reading your replies in this thread, thank you.

Also, I'm pretty sure that Floord-1 isn't the only one selling Microsoft keys on these forums. Non of them are legit?

There might be one or two legit sellers. Pretty much if the average price per key is under $80, something isn't legit.
hero member
Activity: 508
Merit: 500
@tspacepilot, I had a good laugh reading your replies in this thread, thank you.

Also, I'm pretty sure that Floord-1 isn't the only one selling Microsoft keys on these forums. Non of them are legit?
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
He just doesn't have any certificate as it's not possible that microsoft would choose anyone as their key reseller and neither they would sell only keys in bulk.

You don't see what I wrote?

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You are not my client ...  You can not impose me to give evidence for you a free... If you want the proof ... Please pay money to see it ... OK!

For others I can provide evidence for them for free ... As for you ... I like to send money.

PS: Please reputable members in this forum help me Escrow with this stupid guy...When I put out the evidence in a convincing way and make him see what a stupid comment on my toppic.

Price evidence for him = 300$


If I did not give evidence: Please banned my nickname...Removing my posts.

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Are you ready to spend money to see the evidence from me?

Note: I Accept Escrow or you go first.

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1. First, My English language is not good ... Everyone can sympathize with me this.

2. This is the key legal.

3. Keys working 100% and genuine....Are not blacklisted and warranty full time.

4. The best way is you take a look at the feedback from the customer and my partners -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/selling-keys-windows-office-antivirus-509600

-> http://www.usc.edu/~douglast/202/lecture23/manifesto.html (Have you read it yet)

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If you want to know the key is legal or not ... Can I buy from a key ... Then with Microsoft support for it...OK!

No i didn't see it and no i'm not ready to spend ANY money on you just to get a proof. Lol what method is it that you have to pay first in order to see your keys aren't stolen/illegal.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1081
I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
我們可以與您肯定同情你的英語不是這麼好。但我們所有的同情並不能真正幫助我們理解你想說什麼。請你幫個忙,找朋友誰分享你的母語,請他們來幫助你製作你的反應。它似乎很清楚,我認為你是對的統計機器翻譯依靠100%,它的下降短。特別是如果你想爭辯或拋出的指責,那麼你要貴點的精妙之處碰到。如往年一樣,這是八九不離十像你鍵入單詞沙拉,這是一個羅夏測試來猜測你的意圖的語法/語義。為了方便說明,我想像著我的一段,是絕對荒謬的是由谷歌渲染成“傳統的中國人”。


Reverse translated:

We can certainly sympathize with you your English is not so good. But all our sympathy does not really help us understand what you mean. Do yourself a favor, find friends who share your native language, ask them to help you make your reaction. It seems clear, I think you are right to rely on statistical machine translation to 100%, it fell short. Especially if you want to argue or throw accusations, then you want your point of subtlety encounter. As in previous years, this is sorta like you type the word salad, which is a Rorschach test to guess your intentions syntax / semantics. For convenience of explanation, I imagine my period, it is absolutely absurd rendered by Google as "traditional Chinese people."


Original paragraph:
We can certainly sympathize with you about your English not being so good.  But all our sympathy doesn't really help us understand what you're trying to say.  Do yourself a favor, find a friend who shares your native language and ask them to help you craft your responses.  It's seems clear to me that you're relying 100% on statistical machine translation and it's falling short.  Especially if you want to argue or throw accusations, then you want the subtlety of your point to come across.  As things stand, it's sorta like you're typing in word salad and it's a rorshach test to guess your intended syntax/semantics.  Just for illustration, I'm imagining that my paragraph is absolute nonsense as rendered into "traditional chinese" by Google.


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Actualy the round trip to Chinese and back in Google isn't so bad.  But this is obviously very language dependent.  For example, I took the same paragraph to tamil and back and now it's starting to sound like prose by Floord-1


We will be sure your English is not so good, you can sympathize with. But our sympathy really help us understand what you're trying to say and what not. , Do yourself a favor and share in your own language, ask a friend to help you craft your answers. Statistical machine translation is 100% dependent on you for it and it seems clear to me that the short fall. You have to throw the charges or argue, in particular, should you come across subtle point. MP If you type the word salad, and it's your purpose syntax / semantics guess Rorshach appears in the film as a test, it's waiting. Just the description, I have to Google "traditional Chinese" will be a complete nonsense to imagine that my column.
member
Activity: 78
Merit: 100
Skype: jsweeney13
He just doesn't have any certificate as it's not possible that microsoft would choose anyone as their key reseller and neither they would sell only keys in bulk.

You don't see what I wrote?

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You are not my client ...  You can not impose me to give evidence for you a free... If you want the proof ... Please pay money to see it ... OK!

For others I can provide evidence for them for free ... As for you ... I like to send money.

PS: Please reputable members in this forum help me Escrow with this stupid guy...When I put out the evidence in a convincing way and make him see what a stupid comment on my toppic.

Price evidence for him = 300$


If I did not give evidence: Please banned my nickname...Removing my posts.

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Are you ready to spend money to see the evidence from me?

Note: I Accept Escrow or you go first.

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1. First, My English language is not good ... Everyone can sympathize with me this.

2. This is the key legal.

3. Keys working 100% and genuine....Are not blacklisted and warranty full time.

4. The best way is you take a look at the feedback from the customer and my partners -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/selling-keys-windows-office-antivirus-509600

-> http://www.usc.edu/~douglast/202/lecture23/manifesto.html (Have you read it yet)

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If you want to know the key is legal or not ... Can I buy from a key ... Then with Microsoft support for it...OK!
hero member
Activity: 653
Merit: 500
If you want to know the key is legal or not ... Can I buy from a key ... Then with Microsoft support for it...OK!

Can you please reformulate this? It's pretty hard to understand.

I believe he want you to buy a key from him, and then check it with Microsoft directly.
He just doesn't have any certificate as it's not possible that microsoft would choose anyone as their key reseller and neither they would sell only keys in bulk.

I believe so, but I was just trying to help "decode" Floord's message. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
If you want to know the key is legal or not ... Can I buy from a key ... Then with Microsoft support for it...OK!

Can you please reformulate this? It's pretty hard to understand.

I believe he want you to buy a key from him, and then check it with Microsoft directly.
He just doesn't have any certificate as it's not possible that microsoft would choose anyone as their key reseller and neither they would sell only keys in bulk.
hero member
Activity: 653
Merit: 500
If you want to know the key is legal or not ... Can I buy from a key ... Then with Microsoft support for it...OK!

Can you please reformulate this? It's pretty hard to understand.

I believe he want you to buy a key from him, and then check it with Microsoft directly.
hero member
Activity: 508
Merit: 500
If you want to know the key is legal or not ... Can I buy from a key ... Then with Microsoft support for it...OK!

Can you please reformulate this? It's pretty hard to understand.
member
Activity: 78
Merit: 100
Skype: jsweeney13
Except that no1 of the users that gave you that feedback are in default trust list and they neither have positive trust or any history on these forums. I've personally never seen them posting.

This.

Floord-1 hasn't specified anything about any CoA's. So, do you offer a CoA(Certificate of Authenticity) along with the keys? Apparently it is the only way to sell a legit key.

If you want to know the key is legal or not ... Can I buy from a key ... Then with Microsoft support for it...OK!
hero member
Activity: 508
Merit: 500
Except that no1 of the users that gave you that feedback are in default trust list and they neither have positive trust or any history on these forums. I've personally never seen them posting.

This.

Floord-1 hasn't specified anything about any CoA's. So, do you offer a CoA(Certificate of Authenticity) along with the keys? Apparently it is the only way to sell a legit key.
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
Seriously, if you can't communicate in finite sentences, it starts to sound like nonsense-land real fast.  I'd save your accusations for your native language.  This is embarrassing.

This is the last sentence I wrote in here...A stupid topics:

1. First, My English language is not good ... Everyone can sympathize with me this.

2. This is the key legal.

3. Keys working 100% and genuine....Are not blacklisted and warranty full time.

4. The best way is you take a look at the feedback from the customer and my partners -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/selling-keys-windows-office-antivirus-509600

-> http://www.usc.edu/~douglast/202/lecture23/manifesto.html (Have you read it yet)

Mfg Floord

Except that no1 of the users that gave you that feedback are in default trust list and they neither have positive trust or any history on these forums. I've personally never seen them posting.
member
Activity: 78
Merit: 100
Skype: jsweeney13
Seriously, if you can't communicate in finite sentences, it starts to sound like nonsense-land real fast.  I'd save your accusations for your native language.  This is embarrassing.

This is the last sentence I wrote in here...A stupid topics:

1. First, My English language is not good ... Everyone can sympathize with me this.

2. This is the key legal.

3. Keys working 100% and genuine....Are not blacklisted and warranty full time.

4. The best way is you take a look at the feedback from the customer and my partners -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/selling-keys-windows-office-antivirus-509600

-> http://www.usc.edu/~douglast/202/lecture23/manifesto.html (Have you read it yet)

Mfg Floord
sr. member
Activity: 399
Merit: 257
For real people I thought we were Libertarians here? If people want cheap/free/stolen software bad enough, they will find a way to get it anyways. No reason to specifically stomp on this dude. Free market, free economy.

I think the point of contention is not the fact that he/she might be illegally selling keys, but that he/she might be doing that and yet is telling his/her buyers that that isn't the case. Even in a capitalist market, scams and fraudulent businesses are not and should not be tolerated.
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 530
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Seriously, if you can't communicate in finite sentences, it starts to sound like nonsense-land real fast.  I'd save your accusations for your native language.  This is embarrassing.

Made me LOL and I was singing that in a rave-style in my head.  Cheesy


I don't mean to impose on something I know very little about, while it IS illegal to sell these keys do you know how easy it is to get keys and activators online? Fuck you could go to kickass.to or some torrent site right now and activate your Windows version for nothing at all. The fact this guy is selling keys, whether they are legit or not that's all him. If they aren't legit and M$ finds out, someone surely will find a way around it.

Although I did read (I think?) that one of the OS's is going to start throwing in a kill-switch for pirated copies of their OS's in the near future, which is a good idea I guess but I'm sure someone will find a way around that as well.

What was the point of this thread? To tattle? I mean seriously, bitcointalk has literally become a bunch of cynical bastards who either cry scam on people or do shit like this.

Let me ask you this, what looking at this thread, all the threads that cry scam and the likes and others and tell me what would entice anyone to look into getting bitcoin? Seriously?

How is this going to convince anyone to adopt bitcoin?

MSDN accounts are for developers to test their products on Microsoft platforms. The keys should not be sold and used in an operational environment, not even for web surfing and checking email (specified in the agreement). There is no way what Floord is doing is legal, and keys provided by him could be invalidated by Microsoft anytime.

I've done some searching :-
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If an MSDN subscription is transferred or sold, any perpetual use rights are transferred to the new party and the seller can no longer use the software.

You are allowed to transfer or sell your MSDN account under the condition that you no longer use your account.
There is a fair chance that the keys provided by Floord are pirated , but this is not enough to ban him or make him shut his shop down.

For real people I thought we were Libertarians here? If people want cheap/free/stolen software bad enough, they will find a way to get it anyways. No reason to specifically stomp on this dude. Free market, free economy.
sr. member
Activity: 399
Merit: 257
I didn't even know that microsoft is not selling Keys for home use, well, now i know. So if someone want's to sell me some microsoft software, what do i have to check to make sure it's ''legal'' and ok?

The following quote is taken directly from Microsoft's website:

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With the exception of Product Key Cards distributed with Certificates of Authenticity (COA’s), Microsoft does not distribute products keys as standalone products. If you see a listing on an auction site, online classified ad, or other online page advertising product keys, it’s a good indication that these keys are likely stolen or counterfeit.

The actual page is here.

When in doubt, you can always contact a Microsoft representative and ask them directly.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1081
I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.

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Seriously, if you can't communicate in finite sentences, it starts to sound like nonsense-land real fast.  I'd save your accusations for your native language.  This is embarrassing.
member
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Skype: jsweeney13
Do you have a certificate of authenticity? Or did you buy your laptop from an OEM provider. OEM providers sometimes embed the license key into the computer's BIOS. You should have the restore CDs which say that on a laptop.

If you have a desktop and no certificate of authenticity, even if your license activates and seems okay, it's still considered invalid.

http://www.microsoft.com/OEM/en/licensing/antipiracy/Pages/COA_hologram.aspx#fbid=zipZ8l7kzZS

The best way is to silence because the stupid knowledge and your funny (Spammers to raise Activity).

-> https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bluefirecorp-20802 (Pages: 1 -> 41)


The thing that they aren't blacklisted doesn't mean they are already used or are in usage. There is no way you could get so cheap not pirated and legit licences not to mention that it usually comes with the sticker from Microsoft.

Of course, just because a key is working now, it doesn't mean it is legit. That's why I'm curious as to how we can figure this out.

If you want to know the key is legal or not ... Can I buy from a key ... Then with Microsoft support for it...OK!
hero member
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Of course, just because a key is working now, it doesn't mean it is legit. That's why I'm curious as to how we can figure this out.
legendary
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The thing that they aren't blacklisted doesn't mean they are already used or are in usage. There is no way you could get so cheap not pirated and legit licences not to mention that it usually comes with the sticker from Microsoft.
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