Topic: Selling pirated / illegal software licenses. - page 4. (Read 5337 times)

Are you seriously trying to sell me a product in meta? Do you not understand you're being reported here for exactly this. If you want someone to pay for evidence that you're not selling illegal goods, you have another thing coming.

Are you ready to spend money to see the evidence from me?

Note: I Accept Escrow or you go first.

I've seen this exact process before. People like you think they can get away with breaking the rules forever. They always come back and bite them in the ass. Obviously, you lack basic understanding of English.

Let use a real world example, okay? You rob a bank of gold. The gold is uniquely identified by serial numbers (like most gold is). The bank doesn't find out. According to you, all your customers are happy. Well duh they're happy, they still think it's 100% legit gold at a huge discount price!

A few months later, the bank finally figured out you stole the gold. The serial numbers are blacklisted. One of your customers finally try to sell their gold (activate the key a second time / call to home, that sort of thing). BAM! They figure out something's wrong. They get in trouble and come straight to you. You have two choices, refund EVERYONE who've you sold the product to, or run for the hills. According to you, you offer a 'double refund' for any key that's bad (2x what they paid). So not only would you have to refund everyone you sold product to, but twice the amount to not have scammed people.

Also, you're saying that you're not selling stolen goods the entire time because you have happy customers. Just because the customers don't know that the product is stolen doesn't mean they're not receiving stolen goods.

Wait, you're not saying that one must purchase goods to see proof they aren't illegal?

Damn! If I knew people would actually trust me, I'd be the perfect coke salesman! "Hey, I have this coke here, totally 100% legit and legal." "Prove it's not illegal." "Nah man, you have to buy it first, then I'll prove it's not illegal."

No matter which way you cut it, pirated licenses are illegal.


I'm not sure that's relevant? The only reason I even bothered to respond to the guy in the first place (saying that's irrelevant) is because he brought it up out of the blue in the first place.

Not to mention, I've YET to have a problem with UpDown. I've used their service in the past without a problem, and so far, there's been no proof / action taken about it being a scam. If it were a scam, I'm fairly sure there'd be some more action taken on the part of the moderators / administrators (as in closing the thread or banning the account). Besides, this post isn't about my signature. Bringing it up means it's off-topic, which could be considered spam, and should be deleted.

A stupid statement and funny.

Please rely on the truth and reality that is the feedback from customers and partners bought the key from me.



Are you ready to spend money to see the evidence from me? Note: I Accept Escrow or you go first.

Take a closer look at your article: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bluefirecorp-20802

Was sure you are talking about that thread when I read the title. I wanted to buy a Windows license from him some time ago, but was in doubt if the keys are pirated or not. Good thing my spider sense tingled .

So, browsing through the market, I've came across a few threads that were dedicated to selling illegal licenses (Microsoft in partitular). To verify that they were illegal, I confirmed they did not ship any sort of COA after purchase of key (required for any sort of retail / OEM license). They sold retail only licenses (Windows home premium and home basic do NOT come in any other forms other than retail / oem [they aren't offered via VLK as they are home licenses, not business]).

Therefore, they're selling pirated keys / breaking Microsoft's ToS. According to the ToS / EULA when you use the keys, they aren't actually your keys to use.

I gave him plenty of chances to present his Microsoft Partner ID before I came here to report him, but he failed to do so.

Anyway, the thread in question is here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/selling-keys-windows-office-antivirus-509600

By the way, I'm not writing this thread to get him punished. I'm writing this thread to protect any potential customers from getting scammed. Microsoft will eventually blacklist any sort of pirated keys, and eventually, their activations will say their software is pirated.

1. Trading of goods that are illegal in the seller's or buyer's country is forbidden.
   - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51405

Edit: Forgot about the MSDN accounts, my bad.

As for the MSDN accounts, rule 3 covers that. More information can be found here:
   - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1435482

Ownership of the MSDN accounts cannot be transferred, at all.