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November 18, 2023, 09:16:12 AM
#46
I personally think dip/crash around halving will be the case but every cycle has different exceptions. Just that, between no more crash to rally from here on, too good to be true is less likely than, pain first, before joy.
I feel like the unexpected is the expected in the crypto world, we do not know what's going to happen and that makes everything expected. The price goes down? That's normal, price goes up? That's normal too.

It's more true than people believe. You know when you should buy and believe? When everyone has a bad prediction.

When should you sell? When the ads come back and Bitboy is promoting the next big thing.

Cycles didn't follow in September most likely because everyone was saying it would Wink
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November 18, 2023, 05:10:58 AM
#45
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It is better to remember that the market of crypto is volatile therefore don't think that all the things will occurs as Same as that occurred in history because everything changes when the time goes. People have set the strategy that profit from bitcoin can be possible if someone follow the rule of waiting for at least four years so in that four years may be one see highest worth but all are just assumptions.

People will make their choices according to the market condition like if market is going to pump so people wants to accumulate bitcoin because everyone follows predictions and history but the actual truth will be identified when time arrives. Everyone is saying that halving is coming but no one knows that during halving will there be the same situations as that was in past or it will be change so try to work according to the market condition and make preparation for each type of circumstances.
That's why people who want to trade in crypto must always be able to keep an eye on crypto market movements. With prices always changing from time to time, it will also influence what happens in the crypto market. Without carrying out analysis and just looking at the history of the crypto market so far, it cannot be used as a basis for determining the decisions we will take.

That is why we must always study trading analysis so that we can improve our analytical skills. If someone wants to invest in Bitcoin and bide their time to take big profits, they should be able to hold it for at least 3-4 years. Because of the bull run factor, which is likely to occur in 3-4 years but if it doesn't happen because the situation has changed, they have to be able to keep holding it.

Before and after the halving, something will definitely happen so they need to prepare themselves. If they still wanted to accumulate more, now was still a good time. Bitcoin prices now tend to go up and down, although not too deeply, so they can accumulate it again.
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November 18, 2023, 04:08:21 AM
#44
There is something that has pushed the price to rise below $26,000. No one knows what it is and it may appear as purchases in the records of one of the companies when this quarter’s report is issued. But in any case, a 4% rise does not mean that we will witness an upward wave for this month, as we may remain below 30k most likely as there is not enough momentum for this historical resistance level, but before the end of the year we will be between 30k to 40k.
I agree for this guys. it's a balanced way of looking for btc price. A 4% rise ain't enough to say we're surfing on a crypto wave this month. After all, we're not seeing any big momentum to break past that historical resistance level of 30k. And, let's keep sights realistic and expect Bitcoin to be somewhere between 30k to 40k by the end of the year. Let's return to topic by OP. In my eye, and don't get me wrong, analysis is important in crypto, but it doesn't guarantee profits in crypto. In my opinion, analysis of past charts in crypto should not be used for the following year. It seems risky to me and almost like gambling.
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November 17, 2023, 09:02:13 PM
#43
History doesn’t always repeat but it often rhymes. We can’t base our trading or investment plans on what happened in the past. Obviously we can use indicators & various charts to base an opinion but there are many factors to consider. We should be heading into a bullish period for a couple of years now so bear that in mind.
Of these various factors, fundamentals are the main reason why history will not always be the same and the tendency for Bitcoin prices will increase when big moments occur.
The information and graphs studied will be based on the price opinions that will be generated. Trends will easily change depending on the situation and conditions, but the cycle will look the same as previous years. We can compare it with now.

The fundamentals are heavy these days. A bullish reading on various charts will be definitely backed by the actual situation of the Bitcoin market right now. Although delays on Bitcoin spot ETF applications were decided by the SEC just like it recently delayed the approval of Franklin Templeton's application, this has actually made the hype even stronger. The more they delay the decision, the more the number of application grows, the more the demand of a spot ETF seems to grow even stronger. And then there is also the halving which will happen in April next year.
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November 17, 2023, 02:01:01 PM
#42
History doesn’t always repeat but it often rhymes. We can’t base our trading or investment plans on what happened in the past. Obviously we can use indicators & various charts to base an opinion but there are many factors to consider. We should be heading into a bullish period for a couple of years now so bear that in mind.
Of these various factors, fundamentals are the main reason why history will not always be the same and the tendency for Bitcoin prices will increase when big moments occur.
The information and graphs studied will be based on the price opinions that will be generated. Trends will easily change depending on the situation and conditions, but the cycle will look the same as previous years. We can compare it with now.
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November 17, 2023, 01:17:05 PM
#41
Bitcoin's journey is indeed very interesting to follow because many people are still analyzing it based on what has happened before. They make predictions about what might happen. Many of these make two possibilities that could happen. One time, the price direction increases. And secondly, when the price direction decreases.

From the predictions they make, they will determine what they should do. If they are in doubt, they will do nothing and watch the market move. If they see any signs of increasing or decreasing, then they will start placing buy or sell orders. It will depend on where the market is moving.

We cannot rely on history because everything has changed now. More people are using Bitcoin as an investment, making many people join the crypto market. That means anything can happen and we have to be able to analyze it to find something useful for us. And now, we are seeing the price get another correction because this may be the weekend. Usually, corrections come at weekends like now.

It is better to remember that the market of crypto is volatile therefore don't think that all the things will occurs as Same as that occurred in history because everything changes when the time goes. People have set the strategy that profit from bitcoin can be possible if someone follow the rule of waiting for at least four years so in that four years may be one see highest worth but all are just assumptions.

People will make their choices according to the market condition like if market is going to pump so people wants to accumulate bitcoin because everyone follows predictions and history but the actual truth will be identified when time arrives. Everyone is saying that halving is coming but no one knows that during halving will there be the same situations as that was in past or it will be change so try to work according to the market condition and make preparation for each type of circumstances.
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November 17, 2023, 01:01:05 PM
#40
We should all come to terms with the fact that "usual" stuff or whatever is not real, we do not have "usually it does this after this", that's not real, chart reading is not done that way, what happened is not deciding factor on what will happen. What you could do with indicators is seeing what people are readying up for, like if there is a big wall at 37k and no wall until 42k, you could see that from the charts, and yes then you can invest, or have 38k a big wall and no wall until 30k, then yeah it may go down. But to say that you have seen it do head and shoulders so you think it will go up, that's silly.

September was a good month, October was even better, and November seems to be awesome, we just need to see those as the reality. We are nearing the bull run right now and we need to end up with something that will benefit us on the long run, if we can't do that then we are not going to end up with anything good. We should be considering that as an option and we could end up doing better.
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November 17, 2023, 09:24:42 AM
#39
History doesn’t always repeat but it often rhymes. We can’t base our trading or investment plans on what happened in the past. Obviously we can use indicators & various charts to base an opinion but there are many factors to consider. We should be heading into a bullish period for a couple of years now so bear that in mind.
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November 17, 2023, 09:06:33 AM
#38
Bitcoin's journey is indeed very interesting to follow because many people are still analyzing it based on what has happened before. They make predictions about what might happen. Many of these make two possibilities that could happen. One time, the price direction increases. And secondly, when the price direction decreases.

From the predictions they make, they will determine what they should do. If they are in doubt, they will do nothing and watch the market move. If they see any signs of increasing or decreasing, then they will start placing buy or sell orders. It will depend on where the market is moving.

We cannot rely on history because everything has changed now. More people are using Bitcoin as an investment, making many people join the crypto market. That means anything can happen and we have to be able to analyze it to find something useful for us. And now, we are seeing the price get another correction because this may be the weekend. Usually, corrections come at weekends like now.
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November 17, 2023, 08:07:35 AM
#37
Anyone can predict but nothing and absolutely nothing is guaranteed.

I personally think dip/crash around halving will be the case but every cycle has different exceptions. Just that, between no more crash to rally from here on, too good to be true is less likely than, pain first, before joy.

I don't think ETF matters. Short term, but not permanent like actual global economy, war, etc
I feel like the unexpected is the expected in the crypto world, we do not know what's going to happen and that makes everything expected. The price goes down? That's normal, price goes up? That's normal too. We shouldn't really care about what it does, that is not our job and we should not be expecting it to do one thing and shock when it does the other thing. You should still invest according to what you expect, like if you think it is going to go up then you should buy and if you think it is going to go down then you should sell.

However, just because you expect one thing, doesn't mean you shouldn't be ready when the other direction starts to show itself. Plus just like how it happened in the last week, you should be ready for both moves, it went over 37k, went near 35k and went over 37k again, that's not an unusual thing in the crypto world and definitely something that people should be a prepared for on the long run if you want to profit from investing.

I highly agree with you. Traders will benefit the most in this idea since they can still make profit when the market is bearish, unlike investing you can only get profit when the price increases. The current price action of Bitcoin is making the higher high, and many people thought that the HH is 35k but it's not. The current high is $38k and if the price won't break this high possibly it will going to retrace to get enough liquidity below to send the price higher. Just like what you have said, be like water, just go with the flow of the market.
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November 17, 2023, 07:50:01 AM
#36
Anyone can predict but nothing and absolutely nothing is guaranteed.

I personally think dip/crash around halving will be the case but every cycle has different exceptions. Just that, between no more crash to rally from here on, too good to be true is less likely than, pain first, before joy.

I don't think ETF matters. Short term, but not permanent like actual global economy, war, etc
I feel like the unexpected is the expected in the crypto world, we do not know what's going to happen and that makes everything expected. The price goes down? That's normal, price goes up? That's normal too. We shouldn't really care about what it does, that is not our job and we should not be expecting it to do one thing and shock when it does the other thing. You should still invest according to what you expect, like if you think it is going to go up then you should buy and if you think it is going to go down then you should sell.

However, just because you expect one thing, doesn't mean you shouldn't be ready when the other direction starts to show itself. Plus just like how it happened in the last week, you should be ready for both moves, it went over 37k, went near 35k and went over 37k again, that's not an unusual thing in the crypto world and definitely something that people should be a prepared for on the long run if you want to profit from investing.
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November 16, 2023, 07:06:26 PM
#35
So I will not assume the news of the ETF is entirely responsible for the gains recorded in Bitcoin price recently... there should be other factors which are yet to be clear.

I believe the ETF news has a role to play. Maybe not a significant role, but it's still a role because that news will increase the demand for Bitcoin. We can't know the extent of the role it plays.

Another factor is the fact that halving is coming up. People have this thought at the back of their mind and they may be led by different reasons to buy Bitcoin now. Also, people will want to buy now because they are speculating a bull run, so this may be the lowest Bitcoin price would be before the halving.
FOMO has a role to play in this.
the ETF news was going strong it actually caused many people to anticipate the rise of its price therefore increasing the people accumulating and as a result also increase the demands for bitcoin even right now there is news about ethereum ETF that is just as massive bitcoin, once all the good news coming out we won't see bearish as projected by the many speculators out there and even analyst, but instead we will see some massive bullish after all, bullish will eventually come.
if bitcoin didn't follow its usual routing of getting bearish in september when for in the future doesn't that simply means that maybe we'll be seeing a good market with good trend from now on? i guess despite the fact that the price of some coins including bitcoin have risen high enough its still good for accumulation.
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November 16, 2023, 06:19:19 PM
#34
So I will not assume the news of the ETF is entirely responsible for the gains recorded in Bitcoin price recently... there should be other factors which are yet to be clear.

I believe the ETF news has a role to play. Maybe not a significant role, but it's still a role because that news will increase the demand for Bitcoin. We can't know the extent of the role it plays.

Another factor is the fact that halving is coming up. People have this thought at the back of their mind and they may be led by different reasons to buy Bitcoin now. Also, people will want to buy now because they are speculating a bull run, so this may be the lowest Bitcoin price would be before the halving.
FOMO has a role to play in this.
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November 16, 2023, 05:57:23 PM
#33
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if you do really want or like for you to make yourself sustain or else then you would be finding yourself that having kind of problem towards your investment decisions.
Just put up into your mind that price conditions or situations cant really be that the same from time to time or even we do say that there are indeed patterns but there would be no
assurance that similar events could happen on next years to come.
It's like there's a pattern but it's not really there.
It's still a false thing and the predictions made are still not necessarily the same even when using accurate past data.

But you need to learn about the annual cycle because the cycle will run according to the trend that has occurred.
Look at how the cycles happened in the past, it's almost the same although not completely. But it can be a reminder for you how the cycle can occur at the same moment as the current halving.

November is a good trend for Bitcoin like the previous year, but December will give a little stronger downward pressure because of the Black Friday moment, but it will be a good point of increase for next year.
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November 16, 2023, 04:47:13 PM
#32
In any case, this is yet another example of how previous performance is not a guarantee of future performance. While I personally believe that the past will always and forever be a part of the future, many people simply have a tendency to anticipate the future and base their financial decisions on the past, which I believe to be reckless and nothing more than gambling.

While history can never be exactly the same, it does frequently rhyme, therefore this does not mean that we should dismiss it entirely. The past, present, and future must all be balanced, and we must pay attention to both the past and the present as well as the future.
While we remain conscious of history and anticipate a possible recall of times associated phenomenon, we could as well reckon on the fact that, all activities that played out to the resultant isn’t stagnant or designed to occur in the same way. There are bounds to be changes, changes that can alter the timing and occurrence of an event.

It takes just one swift news or change in policy to bring about certain awareness that could result in changes. History is only there to guide you and not act as pointers on what will be. It could either motivate you to take certain investment decisions after identifying certain elements in the market within a period or aid you to decide against.
Changes would really be that something that could happen on point and unexpectedly on which means that if ever the price didnt really follow on what it do have on last or previous year then it isnt really that something shocking. Its true that it is really that bound to changes or possibilities that those things wont really be just as the same on where it is on last years. Bear cycle and bullish ones could really be also changed up too.
If we do really tend to zoom out on things then we could really be able to see on what are those factors that could really possibly give out effect into the present price.

We know that there's no one could be able to predict on what the future looks like and this is why it would really be just that normal that changes is really that something that could really be seen on future months or years ahead. This is why it would be always that wise on making out adjustments basing up on the things that we are really that dealing with currently. You would really be needing to be that versatile
if you do really want or like for you to make yourself sustain or else then you would be finding yourself that having kind of problem towards your investment decisions.
Just put up into your mind that price conditions or situations cant really be that the same from time to time or even we do say that there are indeed patterns but there would be no
assurance that similar events could happen on next years to come.
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November 16, 2023, 09:23:56 AM
#31
In any case, this is yet another example of how previous performance is not a guarantee of future performance. While I personally believe that the past will always and forever be a part of the future, many people simply have a tendency to anticipate the future and base their financial decisions on the past, which I believe to be reckless and nothing more than gambling.

While history can never be exactly the same, it does frequently rhyme, therefore this does not mean that we should dismiss it entirely. The past, present, and future must all be balanced, and we must pay attention to both the past and the present as well as the future.
While we remain conscious of history and anticipate a possible recall of times associated phenomenon, we could as well reckon on the fact that, all activities that played out to the resultant isn’t stagnant or designed to occur in the same way. There are bounds to be changes, changes that can alter the timing and occurrence of an event.

It takes just one swift news or change in policy to bring about certain awareness that could result in changes. History is only there to guide you and not act as pointers on what will be. It could either motivate you to take certain investment decisions after identifying certain elements in the market within a period or aid you to decide against.
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November 16, 2023, 05:09:23 AM
#30
I understand that the current bullish momentum is all related to Blackrock. Which means, bearish pressure is yet to take effect.
I was thinking in this direction but there is no substantive evidence to support the claim. When the erroneous tweet by Cointelegraph came out, market responded vigorously leading to a gain of over $5k with few hours before the news was debunked and clarifications made that saw price drop abruptly. This is much of the effect I know the ETF news had on the Bitcoin market. After few days the market rallied and even exceeded the price the ETF news took it to. So I will not assume the news of the ETF is entirely responsible for the gains recorded in Bitcoin price recently... there should be other factors which are yet to be clear.

Remember, there is always a big dip near halving so we still have to go through one bad period minimum.
There may be exception this year unless perhaps, the ETF applications get rejected which will send a shock to the market. However, should the ETF get approval by January 2024, we might not see any serious dip prior to the halving. Nevertheless, it is always safer to keep an open mind and watch the market do what it pleases even as we prepare for whatever be the outcome.

Yup, and that's the other thing I first mentioned that everything is possible as a prediction. Anyone can predict but nothing and absolutely nothing is guaranteed.

I personally think dip/crash around halving will be the case but every cycle has different exceptions. Just that, between no more crash to rally from here on, too good to be true is less likely than, pain first, before joy.

I don't think ETF matters. Short term, but not permanent like actual global economy, war, etc
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November 15, 2023, 11:59:12 AM
#29
September did better than expected. But it was not bad at all. August did worse than expected. So the price was bound to go up. People saw opportunity when the price was down in August. Hence they intended to buy more coins. To maintain the demand of the coin, the price automatically went up. So nothing much to discuss about this little uptrend. Yes September didn’t follow the past trends, but I am sure, 2024 will be really big for Bitcoins. Just don’t lose hope and wait for the right time.
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November 15, 2023, 07:46:43 AM
#28
I understand that the current bullish momentum is all related to Blackrock. Which means, bearish pressure is yet to take effect.
I was thinking in this direction but there is no substantive evidence to support the claim. When the erroneous tweet by Cointelegraph came out, market responded vigorously leading to a gain of over $5k with few hours before the news was debunked and clarifications made that saw price drop abruptly. This is much of the effect I know the ETF news had on the Bitcoin market. After few days the market rallied and even exceeded the price the ETF news took it to. So I will not assume the news of the ETF is entirely responsible for the gains recorded in Bitcoin price recently... there should be other factors which are yet to be clear.


Remember, there is always a big dip near halving so we still have to go through one bad period minimum.
There may be exception this year unless perhaps, the ETF applications get rejected which will send a shock to the market. However, should the ETF get approval by January 2024, we might not see any serious dip prior to the halving. Nevertheless, it is always safer to keep an open mind and watch the market do what it pleases even as we prepare for whatever be the outcome.


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November 15, 2023, 06:38:10 AM
#27
Hmm, September, Gone November is almost also hitting the ending weeks, September directly follows its bear cycle well here in this industry nothing is reliable if you consider the historical data in the short term, everything mostly goes with the sentiments. NOV mostly people assumed that it would provide the opportunity to re-accumulate the Coins by a healthy correction.

Last night's 1st estimated target was achieved with some of the limit orders filled on the 35k, I'm assuming the second target of around 32k and the last one on the 30k, now it all depends on Friday Let see how it goes.
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