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August 23, 2011, 09:45:55 PM
#49
Flexcoin already is trying to tackle the Bitcoin Address problem (e.g. send BTC to "coffeeshop"), but, unfortunately, I don't yet trust ANY online Bitcoin service with holding my money for any long period of time.

Best way to do this is using Namecoin to map names to bitcoin addresses, but I'm guessing more development will be needed for this to work seamlessly.
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August 23, 2011, 09:34:12 PM
#48
Aaaaand, the truth comes out. You live in your parents house, and have never had a real job. You have no fucking clue how much four million dollars is because you have watched too much TV and your brain is a mashed up pile of burning suburban garbage. You will graduate from high school in nine months and your rich white parents will give you a Jetta and pay for you to go on a backpacking trip to Europe. While there, you will get drunk and act like an obnoxious rich white kid in some dirty bar that your hipster friends drag you to because 'it's so real', oblivious to who is around you. This precipitates a brawl, which inevitably ends with you being raped in an alley. Despite the trauma, you fail to link actions to consequences and continue about your life, dumb as ever but walking a little bowlegged. You go to college, where no one likes you and major in Economics, going on to sell used BMWs. You die cold and alone.

Me? I would sell four four mil in a fucking heartbeat. A bird in the hand is worth 400,000 bitcoin in the bush.

Not at all. I come from a very poor family. My mum is bankrupt and my dad struggles from week to week. I barely make the mortgage payments each month.

Just because I sympathize more with the rich, doesn't mean I'm rich (yet).

I just have bigger ambitions that most, and $4m doesn't cut it, sorry.

I'd rather take a chance at $40m knowing I took a chance, and didn't cut and run when it got a bit scary, even if that means I never even make 4.
"Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires." John Steinbeck
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August 23, 2011, 08:07:18 PM
#47
Aaaaand, the truth comes out. You live in your parents house, and have never had a real job. You have no fucking clue how much four million dollars is because you have watched too much TV and your brain is a mashed up pile of burning suburban garbage. You will graduate from high school in nine months and your rich white parents will give you a Jetta and pay for you to go on a backpacking trip to Europe. While there, you will get drunk and act like an obnoxious rich white kid in some dirty bar that your hipster friends drag you to because 'it's so real', oblivious to who is around you. This precipitates a brawl, which inevitably ends with you being raped in an alley. Despite the trauma, you fail to link actions to consequences and continue about your life, dumb as ever but walking a little bowlegged. You go to college, where no one likes you and major in Economics, going on to sell used BMWs. You die cold and alone.

Me? I would sell four four mil in a fucking heartbeat. A bird in the hand is worth 400,000 bitcoin in the bush.

Not at all. I come from a very poor family. My mum is bankrupt and my dad struggles from week to week. I barely make the mortgage payments each month.

Just because I sympathize more with the rich, doesn't mean I'm rich (yet).

I just have bigger ambitions that most, and $4m doesn't cut it, sorry.

I'd rather take a chance at $40m knowing I took a chance, and didn't cut and run when it got a bit scary, even if that means I never even make 4.
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August 23, 2011, 07:58:44 PM
#46
Honestly, I wonder why some random miner from 2009 with 400k Bitcoin HASN'T sold everything.  I think he's a fantastically huge idiot if he hasn't done so already.  Seriously...being an early adopter is like finding a million dollars superglued to the sidewalk (gotta do a little thinking to get it off the sidewalk without destroying it, but you're a moron to let it sit there without doing anything about it).

Why would you sell for $4 million if you can potentially sell it for $40 million next year?

Coz you're impatient, and scared.


That's one of the dumbest things I've heard in a long time.

My question or my answer to it? Perhaps you could answer the question more intelligently then.

Sure.  $4 mil is a guaranteed retirement.

Edit:  By the way, if you have $4 mil in a savings account at, let's say, an annual interest rate of .05%,  that's 20 grand a year right there for letting it sit while you figure out what the hell to do with it all.

The thought of completely retiring on a mere $4m is downright horrible to me. I'd feel like I'd completely 'given up'.

I guess people just have different expectations, but if I only made 20k per year in interest I'd feel like a loser who didn't really even try to make it big.

$40m is getting there, but really total RETIREMENT? Depends how you value time/money now I suppose.

$4m doesn't even pay for half a jet.



Aaaaand, the truth comes out. You live in your parents house, and have never had a real job. You have no fucking clue how much four million dollars is because you have watched too much TV and your brain is a mashed up pile of burning suburban garbage. You will graduate from high school in nine months and your rich white parents will give you a Jetta and pay for you to go on a backpacking trip to Europe. While there, you will get drunk and act like an obnoxious rich white kid in some dirty bar that your hipster friends drag you to because 'it's so real', oblivious to who is around you. This precipitates a brawl, which inevitably ends with you being raped in an alley. Despite the trauma, you fail to link actions to consequences and continue about your life, dumb as ever but walking a little bowlegged. You go to college, where no one likes you and major in Economics, going on to sell used BMWs. You die cold and alone.

Me? I would sell four four mil in a fucking heartbeat. A bird in the hand is worth 400,000 bitcoin in the bush.
Me too.  And I'd dump half of it into real estate right now.
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August 23, 2011, 07:56:36 PM
#45
Honestly, I wonder why some random miner from 2009 with 400k Bitcoin HASN'T sold everything.  I think he's a fantastically huge idiot if he hasn't done so already.  Seriously...being an early adopter is like finding a million dollars superglued to the sidewalk (gotta do a little thinking to get it off the sidewalk without destroying it, but you're a moron to let it sit there without doing anything about it).

Why would you sell for $4 million if you can potentially sell it for $40 million next year?

Coz you're impatient, and scared.


That's one of the dumbest things I've heard in a long time.

My question or my answer to it? Perhaps you could answer the question more intelligently then.

Sure.  $4 mil is a guaranteed retirement.

Edit:  By the way, if you have $4 mil in a savings account at, let's say, an annual interest rate of .05%,  that's 20 grand a year right there for letting it sit while you figure out what the hell to do with it all.

The thought of completely retiring on a mere $4m is downright horrible to me. I'd feel like I'd completely 'given up'.

I guess people just have different expectations, but if I only made 20k per year in interest I'd feel like a loser who didn't really even try to make it big.

$40m is getting there, but really total RETIREMENT? Depends how you value time/money now I suppose.

$4m doesn't even pay for half a jet.



Aaaaand, the truth comes out. You live in your parents house, and have never had a real job. You have no fucking clue how much four million dollars is because you have watched too much TV and your brain is a mashed up pile of burning suburban garbage. You will graduate from high school in nine months and your rich white parents will give you a Jetta and pay for you to go on a backpacking trip to Europe. While there, you will get drunk and act like an obnoxious rich white kid in some dirty bar that your hipster friends drag you to because 'it's so real', oblivious to who is around you. This precipitates a brawl, which inevitably ends with you being raped in an alley. Despite the trauma, you fail to link actions to consequences and continue about your life, dumb as ever but walking a little bowlegged. You go to college, where no one likes you and major in Economics, going on to sell used BMWs. You die cold and alone.

Me? I would sell four four mil in a fucking heartbeat. A bird in the hand is worth 400,000 bitcoin in the bush.
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legendary
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August 23, 2011, 07:03:40 PM
#43
I also have a feeling I already am and will always be richer than you, so long as you hold that mentality.

Heh that's what poor people always say Cheesy

Good luck.


Back atcha, considering your decision would depend entirely on market luck.  Send me a BTC address and I'll donate to you, if it's that important to you.

14Z1mazY4HfysZyMaKudFr63EwHqQT2njz


Sent.  Now go fuck yourself.
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August 23, 2011, 07:01:45 PM
#42
I also have a feeling I already am and will always be richer than you, so long as you hold that mentality.

Heh that's what poor people always say Cheesy

Good luck.


Back atcha, considering your decision would depend entirely on market luck.  Send me a BTC address and I'll donate to you, if it's that important to you.

14Z1mazY4HfysZyMaKudFr63EwHqQT2njz
legendary
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August 23, 2011, 06:56:17 PM
#41
I also have a feeling I already am and will always be richer than you, so long as you hold that mentality.

Heh that's what poor people always say Cheesy

Good luck.


Back atcha, considering your decision would depend entirely on market luck.  Send me a BTC address and I'll donate to you, if it's that important to you.
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August 23, 2011, 06:49:11 PM
#40
I also have a feeling I already am and will always be richer than you, so long as you hold that mentality.

Heh that's what poor people always say Cheesy

Good luck.
legendary
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August 23, 2011, 06:34:53 PM
#39

I'm ignoring the parasitic and sociopathic rantings and going back to the topic.

We should focus on improving the bitcoin client so the non-geek population can use it. I suggest strong encryption of wallet.dat as a start as there are already trojans in the wild that steal this file. Also some very easy way to make encrypted wallet backups should be provided. Encrypting the wallet isn't as easy as it sounds as you have to protect from keyboard sniffers as well as rouge programs with filesystem access.

We could also use some easy way to handle bitcoin addresses. It would be really nice if I could send BTC to a name I can actually remember and write down. I suggest storing these addresses in DNS ( using DNSSEC for security ) so we could use addresses like sd.name.bit or sd.mycompany.com instead of the awkward internal addresses we use now.

We also need unitex or something like it to allow people to change local currency to BTC and back again quickly and hopefully cheaply. BTC won't really be mainstream until it can be conveniently converted to other things.

There are already have a number of sites offering products and services for BTC. These will develop and mature over time bringing more people into BTC.



I agree with this.  Flexcoin already is trying to tackle the Bitcoin Address problem (e.g. send BTC to "coffeeshop"), but, unfortunately, I don't yet trust ANY online Bitcoin service with holding my money for any long period of time.  For me, TradeHill is as close as it gets yet I still have paranoia in the back of my mind of losing it all.  It's a big problem to me when the terms of service imply that they are under no liability to owe you anything should their site say, 'happen' to go down, or 'happen' to be hacked.
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August 23, 2011, 05:23:41 PM
#38
While we're at it, Europe, China, Japan, they should all take USD!
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August 23, 2011, 03:36:16 PM
#37

I'm ignoring the parasitic and sociopathic rantings and going back to the topic.

We should focus on improving the bitcoin client so the non-geek population can use it. I suggest strong encryption of wallet.dat as a start as there are already trojans in the wild that steal this file. Also some very easy way to make encrypted wallet backups should be provided. Encrypting the wallet isn't as easy as it sounds as you have to protect from keyboard sniffers as well as rouge programs with filesystem access.

We could also use some easy way to handle bitcoin addresses. It would be really nice if I could send BTC to a name I can actually remember and write down. I suggest storing these addresses in DNS ( using DNSSEC for security ) so we could use addresses like sd.name.bit or sd.mycompany.com instead of the awkward internal addresses we use now.

We also need unitex or something like it to allow people to change local currency to BTC and back again quickly and hopefully cheaply. BTC won't really be mainstream until it can be conveniently converted to other things.

There are already have a number of sites offering products and services for BTC. These will develop and mature over time bringing more people into BTC.



Agree! Bitcoin 1.0 can be much better!
And Bitcoin 2.0 will be awesome!

If we talk less and do more.
sd
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August 23, 2011, 02:02:08 PM
#36

I'm ignoring the parasitic and sociopathic rantings and going back to the topic.

We should focus on improving the bitcoin client so the non-geek population can use it. I suggest strong encryption of wallet.dat as a start as there are already trojans in the wild that steal this file. Also some very easy way to make encrypted wallet backups should be provided. Encrypting the wallet isn't as easy as it sounds as you have to protect from keyboard sniffers as well as rouge programs with filesystem access.

We could also use some easy way to handle bitcoin addresses. It would be really nice if I could send BTC to a name I can actually remember and write down. I suggest storing these addresses in DNS ( using DNSSEC for security ) so we could use addresses like sd.name.bit or sd.mycompany.com instead of the awkward internal addresses we use now.

We also need unitex or something like it to allow people to change local currency to BTC and back again quickly and hopefully cheaply. BTC won't really be mainstream until it can be conveniently converted to other things.

There are already have a number of sites offering products and services for BTC. These will develop and mature over time bringing more people into BTC.

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August 23, 2011, 12:45:53 PM
#35
Honestly, I wonder why some random miner from 2009 with 400k Bitcoin HASN'T sold everything.  I think he's a fantastically huge idiot if he hasn't done so already.  Seriously...being an early adopter is like finding a million dollars superglued to the sidewalk (gotta do a little thinking to get it off the sidewalk without destroying it, but you're a moron to let it sit there without doing anything about it).

Why would you sell for $4 million if you can potentially sell it for $40 million next year?

Coz you're impatient, and scared.


That's one of the dumbest things I've heard in a long time.

My question or my answer to it? Perhaps you could answer the question more intelligently then.

Sure.  $4 mil is a guaranteed retirement.

Edit:  By the way, if you have $4 mil in a savings account at, let's say, an annual interest rate of .05%,  that's 20 grand a year right there for letting it sit while you figure out what the hell to do with it all.

The thought of completely retiring on a mere $4m is downright horrible to me. I'd feel like I'd completely 'given up'.

I guess people just have different expectations, but if I only made 20k per year in interest I'd feel like a loser who didn't really even try to make it big.

$40m is getting there, but really total RETIREMENT? Depends how you value time/money now I suppose.

$4m doesn't even pay for half a jet.


Dude, you sound like a total piece of shit.  If I was a 3rd world country, I'd kick your ass.

Hehe I'm glad there are people like you who have such small dreams and have such a low expectation of what they can achieve in their lives... makes things a hell of a lot easier for me.


Dude, you really need to learn the difference between intrinsic and extrinsic benefit.  My gut feeling is that you really have no idea what happiness is or how to achieve it.  I also have a feeling I already am and will always be richer than you, so long as you hold that mentality.
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August 23, 2011, 07:53:26 AM
#34
I agree with the OP. Bitcoin is an open-source project. Bitcoin can be changed in many ways, if they are good enough ideas, and if a consensus  is reached by a majority of users. These Daddy-wait-up-you're-walking-too-fast copy-cats may or may not have some interesting merits, but they are against the spirit of the bitcoin project itself. There needs to be more organization in development of bitcoin itself so these cheap knock-offs just go away.
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August 23, 2011, 07:48:22 AM
#33
Honestly, I wonder why some random miner from 2009 with 400k Bitcoin HASN'T sold everything.  I think he's a fantastically huge idiot if he hasn't done so already.  Seriously...being an early adopter is like finding a million dollars superglued to the sidewalk (gotta do a little thinking to get it off the sidewalk without destroying it, but you're a moron to let it sit there without doing anything about it).

Why would you sell for $4 million if you can potentially sell it for $40 million next year?

Coz you're impatient, and scared.


That's one of the dumbest things I've heard in a long time.

My question or my answer to it? Perhaps you could answer the question more intelligently then.

Sure.  $4 mil is a guaranteed retirement.

Edit:  By the way, if you have $4 mil in a savings account at, let's say, an annual interest rate of .05%,  that's 20 grand a year right there for letting it sit while you figure out what the hell to do with it all.

The thought of completely retiring on a mere $4m is downright horrible to me. I'd feel like I'd completely 'given up'.

I guess people just have different expectations, but if I only made 20k per year in interest I'd feel like a loser who didn't really even try to make it big.

$40m is getting there, but really total RETIREMENT? Depends how you value time/money now I suppose.

$4m doesn't even pay for half a jet.


Dude, you sound like a total piece of shit.  If I was a 3rd world country, I'd kick your ass.

Hehe I'm glad there are people like you who have such small dreams and have such a low expectation of what they can achieve in their lives... makes things a hell of a lot easier for me.
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August 23, 2011, 07:09:31 AM
#32
Honestly, I wonder why some random miner from 2009 with 400k Bitcoin HASN'T sold everything.  I think he's a fantastically huge idiot if he hasn't done so already.  Seriously...being an early adopter is like finding a million dollars superglued to the sidewalk (gotta do a little thinking to get it off the sidewalk without destroying it, but you're a moron to let it sit there without doing anything about it).

Why would you sell for $4 million if you can potentially sell it for $40 million next year?

Coz you're impatient, and scared.


That's one of the dumbest things I've heard in a long time.

My question or my answer to it? Perhaps you could answer the question more intelligently then.

Sure.  $4 mil is a guaranteed retirement.

Edit:  By the way, if you have $4 mil in a savings account at, let's say, an annual interest rate of .05%,  that's 20 grand a year right there for letting it sit while you figure out what the hell to do with it all.

The thought of completely retiring on a mere $4m is downright horrible to me. I'd feel like I'd completely 'given up'.

I guess people just have different expectations, but if I only made 20k per year in interest I'd feel like a loser who didn't really even try to make it big.

$40m is getting there, but really total RETIREMENT? Depends how you value time/money now I suppose.

$4m doesn't even pay for half a jet.


Dude, you sound like a total piece of shit.  If I was a 3rd world country, I'd kick your ass.
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August 23, 2011, 03:06:36 AM
#31

The thought of completely retiring on a mere $4m is downright horrible to me. I'd feel like I'd completely 'given up'.

I guess people just have different expectations, but if I only made 20k per year in interest I'd feel like a loser who didn't really even try to make it big.

$40m is getting there, but really total RETIREMENT? Depends how you value time/money now I suppose.

$4m doesn't even pay for half a jet.

I think we've gone off topic here. BTW it's only fiat money. I hope to avoid retirement by avoiding aging. Project In Utero is going to be my plan.
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August 23, 2011, 01:23:46 AM
#30
Honestly, I wonder why some random miner from 2009 with 400k Bitcoin HASN'T sold everything.  I think he's a fantastically huge idiot if he hasn't done so already.  Seriously...being an early adopter is like finding a million dollars superglued to the sidewalk (gotta do a little thinking to get it off the sidewalk without destroying it, but you're a moron to let it sit there without doing anything about it).

Why would you sell for $4 million if you can potentially sell it for $40 million next year?

Coz you're impatient, and scared.


That's one of the dumbest things I've heard in a long time.

My question or my answer to it? Perhaps you could answer the question more intelligently then.

Sure.  $4 mil is a guaranteed retirement.

Edit:  By the way, if you have $4 mil in a savings account at, let's say, an annual interest rate of .05%,  that's 20 grand a year right there for letting it sit while you figure out what the hell to do with it all.

The thought of completely retiring on a mere $4m is downright horrible to me. I'd feel like I'd completely 'given up'.

I guess people just have different expectations, but if I only made 20k per year in interest I'd feel like a loser who didn't really even try to make it big.

$40m is getting there, but really total RETIREMENT? Depends how you value time/money now I suppose.

$4m doesn't even pay for half a jet.
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