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Quote from: Coolstoryteller on October 30, 2014, 11:48:10 PM

Quote from: TrangLee on October 30, 2014, 11:32:44 PM

Quote from: Wheatclove on October 30, 2014, 11:26:35 PM

actually, i own 4.20 million sdc. which means they can't possibly own that much.

If you do in which i doubt there is 6+ million SDC trolls owns 1.4 and no exact number is on the rest so that leaves 1 million coins own by everyone else according to you if pookie and longnshort own none at all. Still possible.

So if you really do own 4.20 (weed fan here) that is even worse for the coin. You could single handedly dump the coin to 1 sat and or cause a 51% attack. Your hurting their cause more than helping with you stupid fanboy bullshit.

TrangLee is so dense he can't even see when people are trolling him. Take your FUD conversation back to your SDC FUD thread. Which BTW was started by the LXC dev. I'll be sure to grab a screenshot of the Skype logs for that where the LXC dev admits he is the one who started that smear thread. You're such a tool that you participated in a FUD campaign against SDC orchestrated by the LXC dev which to my knowledge has nothing to do with Stealthcoin besides being a partner in BlockNet. Baseless accusations, mindless trolling and unnecessary personal attacks = Bitcointalk community. Seems like the shitcoin communities always take it upon themselves to attack Shadow.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/poopielaxitive31-383543 this is an alt account for the LXC dev "KidKrypto"

I hang at the LXC thread quite a bit and don't ever remember seeing "KidKrypto" mentioned as a dev. The only devs are Librexcoindev, sinetek,and zerocashdev. AFAIK.

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Quote from: TrangLee on October 31, 2014, 01:11:45 PM

Quote from: SebSebastian on October 31, 2014, 10:30:41 AM

Quote from: jwinterm on October 31, 2014, 07:50:20 AM

Quote from: LongAndShort on October 30, 2014, 10:59:04 PM

I've changed the op you were right about one thing it was misleading and an oversight i apologise!

If that was you in that reddit post and you want to play that pick at words game then sure lets play! You didn't ask for a short explanation you have waited not even a week for an explanation to your junk filled comment, full of conjecture and utter garbage. You are nothing short of playing guessing games tbh

It wasn't my comment. I was the one who posted about the fact that 95% of shadowcash are owned by 84 addresses, which is another reason I wouldn't buy any. Also, I don't think the reddit poster or myself asked for a short explanation, at least I said technical explanation, which you have successfully avoided again.

To be fair it's quite a young coin and the community is still growing. There's plenty for sale on Bittrex, so hopefully as more people become aware of the quality of the development work that's going on, more people will invest and the distribution will become less of an issue.

Yeah ok. Let them be fair. They troll attack and attempt to destroy other coins all the while give the Alt scene a big black eye. On top of that we need to trust them to destroy the mint all you can dream of key and related files. Don't be naive and stupid dealing with these guys. As for coin distribution they just made many addresses in their wallets so it looks spread over 80 (which is still a small core) even if it's in 4-10 actual wallets. also they probably have most on exchanges waiting to DUMP the second people believe this scam they are crafting.

Where is your evidence for there being 4-10 wallets? I just looked at your posting history and it looks like FUDing Shadow has become the central focus of your existence. No offence, but I don't think that's very healthy. There's so much amazing stuff going on in the world of cryptocurrencies, isn't there something more productive you could be doing? "Lead by example" and all that.

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Quote from: TrangLee on October 31, 2014, 01:11:45 PM

Quote from: SebSebastian on October 31, 2014, 10:30:41 AM

Quote from: jwinterm on October 31, 2014, 07:50:20 AM

Quote from: LongAndShort on October 30, 2014, 10:59:04 PM

I've changed the op you were right about one thing it was misleading and an oversight i apologise!

If that was you in that reddit post and you want to play that pick at words game then sure lets play! You didn't ask for a short explanation you have waited not even a week for an explanation to your junk filled comment, full of conjecture and utter garbage. You are nothing short of playing guessing games tbh

It wasn't my comment. I was the one who posted about the fact that 95% of shadowcash are owned by 84 addresses, which is another reason I wouldn't buy any. Also, I don't think the reddit poster or myself asked for a short explanation, at least I said technical explanation, which you have successfully avoided again.

To be fair it's quite a young coin and the community is still growing. There's plenty for sale on Bittrex, so hopefully as more people become aware of the quality of the development work that's going on, more people will invest and the distribution will become less of an issue.

Yeah ok. Let them be fair. They troll attack and attempt to destroy other coins all the while give the Alt scene a big black eye. On top of that we need to trust them to destroy the mint all you can dream of key and related files. Don't be naive and stupid dealing with these guys. As for coin distribution they just made many addresses in their wallets so it looks spread over 80 (which is still a small core) even if it's in 4-10 actual wallets. also they probably have most on exchanges waiting to DUMP the second people believe this scam they are crafting.

Only person in that quote list being naive and stupid is you, you have been explained to that it is not a trusted setup system.. There is no "mint all you can dream of key" your proposal of it being such is stupid! dense much? Roll Eyes

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Quote from: SebSebastian on October 31, 2014, 10:30:41 AM

Quote from: jwinterm on October 31, 2014, 07:50:20 AM

Quote from: LongAndShort on October 30, 2014, 10:59:04 PM

I've changed the op you were right about one thing it was misleading and an oversight i apologise!

If that was you in that reddit post and you want to play that pick at words game then sure lets play! You didn't ask for a short explanation you have waited not even a week for an explanation to your junk filled comment, full of conjecture and utter garbage. You are nothing short of playing guessing games tbh

It wasn't my comment. I was the one who posted about the fact that 95% of shadowcash are owned by 84 addresses, which is another reason I wouldn't buy any. Also, I don't think the reddit poster or myself asked for a short explanation, at least I said technical explanation, which you have successfully avoided again.

To be fair it's quite a young coin and the community is still growing. There's plenty for sale on Bittrex, so hopefully as more people become aware of the quality of the development work that's going on, more people will invest and the distribution will become less of an issue.

Yeah ok. Let them be fair. They troll attack and attempt to destroy other coins all the while give the Alt scene a big black eye. On top of that we need to trust them to destroy the mint all you can dream of key and related files. Don't be naive and stupid dealing with these guys. As for coin distribution they just made many addresses in their wallets so it looks spread over 80 (which is still a small core) even if it's in 4-10 actual wallets. also they probably have most on exchanges waiting to DUMP the second people believe this scam they are crafting.

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Quote from: jwinterm on October 31, 2014, 07:50:20 AM

Quote from: LongAndShort on October 30, 2014, 10:59:04 PM

I've changed the op you were right about one thing it was misleading and an oversight i apologise!

If that was you in that reddit post and you want to play that pick at words game then sure lets play! You didn't ask for a short explanation you have waited not even a week for an explanation to your junk filled comment, full of conjecture and utter garbage. You are nothing short of playing guessing games tbh

It wasn't my comment. I was the one who posted about the fact that 95% of shadowcash are owned by 84 addresses, which is another reason I wouldn't buy any. Also, I don't think the reddit poster or myself asked for a short explanation, at least I said technical explanation, which you have successfully avoided again.

To be fair it's quite a young coin and the community is still growing. There's plenty for sale on Bittrex, so hopefully as more people become aware of the quality of the development work that's going on, more people will invest and the distribution will become less of an issue.

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Quote from: LongAndShort on October 30, 2014, 10:59:04 PM

I've changed the op you were right about one thing it was misleading and an oversight i apologise!

If that was you in that reddit post and you want to play that pick at words game then sure lets play! You didn't ask for a short explanation you have waited not even a week for an explanation to your junk filled comment, full of conjecture and utter garbage. You are nothing short of playing guessing games tbh

It wasn't my comment. I was the one who posted about the fact that 95% of shadowcash are owned by 84 addresses, which is another reason I wouldn't buy any. Also, I don't think the reddit poster or myself asked for a short explanation, at least I said technical explanation, which you have successfully avoided again.

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Quote from: zk-SNARK on October 31, 2014, 12:55:42 AM

Quote from: TrangLee on October 31, 2014, 12:13:47 AM

Quote from: Coolstoryteller on October 31, 2014, 12:11:18 AM

Long quite feeding the TrangLee troll. He think Zerocoin is Shadowsend. Argument is null and void.

Zerocoin is zk-snarks. Shadowsend uses zk-snarks.

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Additionally, ZeroCoin/ZeroCash also has what many consider to be a fatal flaw in the way it works. At launch, everyone using the network must trust the creator to destroy certain secret startup data.

I'm sorry but I don't trust you or the SDC dev to make sure this actually happens. I am sure most people here won't trust you or him to do it. If they do they are damn fools.

This is indeed true. You have to trust that the dev team will destroy any and all copies of the start up keys/and such. I am a huge fan of Zerocoin/cash and have followed them since early Jan. They changed to Zerocash in May/June. Even they say that its what has to be done other wise more coin can be made on the blockchain. They also acknowledge the bloat issue and is in fact one of the main reason they didn't release a "coin".

I personally wouldn't trust these guys to be ride of the keys either.

A trustless setup for zerocoin can be done with RSA-UFO like in the anoncoin project.

Zerocoin doesn't use zk-SNARKs. Zerocash does (hopefully that educated the troll you quoted).

zk-SNARKs can be implemented using PCP-based zk-SNARKs to eliminate trusted setup parameters.

zk-Shadow does not require a trusted setup.

Like you, I have been following progress in the anon vertical for a very long time. Stay tuned my friend, history is in the making.

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You guys crying fud and what not but you are all here doing what..with what you have no evidence you're just pathetic children..hypocriytes! I have no time for the likes of criminals like you! And you are not fooling anyone This is what a real project looks like so you best be getting used to the logo..its not going away! https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sdc-shadowcash-welcome-to-the-umbra-745352

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Quote from: TrangLee on October 31, 2014, 12:13:47 AM

Quote from: Coolstoryteller on October 31, 2014, 12:11:18 AM

Long quite feeding the TrangLee troll. He think Zerocoin is Shadowsend. Argument is null and void.

Zerocoin is zk-snarks. Shadowsend uses zk-snarks.

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Additionally, ZeroCoin/ZeroCash also has what many consider to be a fatal flaw in the way it works. At launch, everyone using the network must trust the creator to destroy certain secret startup data.

I'm sorry but I don't trust you or the SDC dev to make sure this actually happens. I am sure most people here won't trust you or him to do it. If they do they are damn fools.

This is indeed true. You have to trust that the dev team will destroy any and all copies of the start up keys/and such. I am a huge fan of Zerocoin/cash and have followed them since early Jan. They changed to Zerocash in May/June. Even they say that its what has to be done other wise more coin can be made on the blockchain. They also acknowledge the bloat issue and is in fact one of the main reason they didn't release a "coin".

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If this is all reality and I'm not living in a FUD fantasy land then I applaud what you did 00Smurff. Way to keep them honest.

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Quote from: FurianSun on October 31, 2014, 12:41:04 AM

I see you have been trolling the attacking people too 002smurf. http://imgur.com/a/1xbWq#8 Proofs in the pudding. SDC's very own 002 smurf in action. For shame. SDC guys never harasses or trouble other coins. No way man.

So that was a troll? I was being dragged into the middle of something. I cleared up the "out of context", now people can sort it out seeing the exact words of the conversation in context.

I didn't make shit up or go out of my way to attack someone, i've been threatened enough over this.

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Quote from: TrangLee on October 31, 2014, 12:21:21 AM

Quote from: LongAndShort on October 31, 2014, 12:16:25 AM

Quote from: TrangLee on October 31, 2014, 12:09:24 AM

Quote from: LongAndShort on October 31, 2014, 12:03:52 AM

Yeah no probs i mean we can all see your opinions of whats good and not are pretty well reversed from what is really good and bad

check these out then go check on your xc thread! ever coin we have exposed we have done it with factual evidence! all you have is warped realities and conjecture!
i'm telling you its so much easier being good vs bad..bad is so much more work and you get little reward! thats the really stupid thing about it!

Ok you answer to the Epic Fail that is SDC Zerocoin aka zk-snarks is to bring up crap about some other guys on a different coin? I am going to post everywhere I can the epci fail of SDC's zerocoin. Bloated blockchain and 100% trust to destroy geneis key for it. Not that he couldn't have a copy of it some where either. 100's of thousands for SDC coins being minted at will to dump. Sic!

You can spread your lies all you want..thats why i think you are a twit you just have no evidence and you are insulting everyone by thinking you will fool anyone but yourself and your other dimwitted friends!
the world dosn't revolve around bitcointalk son! so believing that is a threat tbh is really really making me sick now..i am defo out this time foreal you really really made me ill then!
I feel really sorry for the people around you, your very nature is so opressive!

You are out again for the 3x? Lol you are like a fly circling a pound of shit. No matter how bad the smell you keep coming back for more. Thing is the pound of shit here is really SDC. You should get a spell checker. It's for real and oppressive. Dim whit.

Just a reminder. besure to trust these guys to destroy the keys and info so they don't make anymore coins. Wink

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Additionally, ZeroCoin/ZeroCash also has what many consider to be a fatal flaw in the way it works. At launch, everyone using the network must trust the creator to destroy certain secret start up data.

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I see you have been trolling the attacking people too 00Smurf. http://imgur.com/a/1xbWq#8 Proofs in the pudding. SDC's very own 002 smurf in action. For shame. SDC guys never harasses or trouble other coins. No way man.

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Quote from: FurianSun on October 31, 2014, 12:29:42 AM

Quote from: TrangLee on October 31, 2014, 12:13:47 AM

Quote from: Coolstoryteller on October 31, 2014, 12:11:18 AM

Long quite feeding the TrangLee troll. He think Zerocoin is Shadowsend. Argument is null and void.

Zerocoin is zk-snarks. Shadowsend uses zk-snarks.

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Additionally, ZeroCoin/ZeroCash also has what many consider to be a fatal flaw in the way it works. At launch, everyone using the network must trust the creator to destroy certain secret startup data.

I'm sorry but I don't trust you or the SDC dev to make sure this actually happens. I am sure most people here won't trust you or him to do it. If they do they are damn fools.

Neither do I. This guys lie and fud other coins to make their case or bring down competitors against SDC.

Oh yeah then there was the Big huge Giant even of ZK-Snark implementation in September!!! Yeah!!! Oh fuck! wait wait its almost November?!! Aw shit another zeroscam lie.

Yes read the entry for sept and zk-snarks implementation.

Good thinking there is never any delays in software development right. Oh wait everything comes on time, nothing is ever late. Wake up man. A small delay is different from months or yyears.

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Quote from: TrangLee on October 31, 2014, 12:13:47 AM

Quote from: Coolstoryteller on October 31, 2014, 12:11:18 AM

Long quite feeding the TrangLee troll. He think Zerocoin is Shadowsend. Argument is null and void.

Zerocoin is zk-snarks. Shadowsend uses zk-snarks.

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Additionally, ZeroCoin/ZeroCash also has what many consider to be a fatal flaw in the way it works. At launch, everyone using the network must trust the creator to destroy certain secret startup data.

I'm sorry but I don't trust you or the SDC dev to make sure this actually happens. I am sure most people here won't trust you or him to do it. If they do they are damn fools.

Neither do I. This guys lie and fud other coins to make their case or bring down competitors against SDC.

Oh yeah then there was the Big huge Giant even of ZK-Snark implementation in September!!! Yeah!!! Oh fuck! wait wait its almost November?!! Aw shit another zeroscam lie.

Yes read the entry for sept and zk-snarks implementation.

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Quote from: LongAndShort on October 31, 2014, 12:16:25 AM

Quote from: TrangLee on October 31, 2014, 12:09:24 AM

Quote from: LongAndShort on October 31, 2014, 12:03:52 AM

Yeah no probs i mean we can all see your opinions of whats good and not are pretty well reversed from what is really good and bad

check these out then go check on your xc thread! ever coin we have exposed we have done it with factual evidence! all you have is warped realities and conjecture!
i'm telling you its so much easier being good vs bad..bad is so much more work and you get little reward! thats the really stupid thing about it!

Ok you answer to the Epic Fail that is SDC Zerocoin aka zk-snarks is to bring up crap about some other guys on a different coin? I am going to post everywhere I can the epci fail of SDC's zerocoin. Bloated blockchain and 100% trust to destroy geneis key for it. Not that he couldn't have a copy of it some where either. 100's of thousands for SDC coins being minted at will to dump. Sic!

You can spread your lies all you want..thats why i think you are a twit you just have no evidence and you are insulting everyone by thinking you will fool anyone but yourself and your other dimwitted friends!
the world dosn't revolve around bitcointalk son! so believing that is a threat tbh is really really making me sick now..i am defo out this time foreal you really really made me ill then!
I feel really sorry for the people around you, your very nature is so opressive!

You are out again for the 3x? Lol you are like a fie circling a pound of shit. No matter how bad the smell you keep coming back for more. Thing is the pound of shit here is really SDC. You should get a spell checker. It's for real and oppressive. Dim whit.

Just a reminder. besure to trust these guys to destroy the keys and info so they don't make anymore coins. Wink

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Additionally, ZeroCoin/ZeroCash also has what many consider to be a fatal flaw in the way it works. At launch, everyone using the network must trust the creator to destroy certain secret start up data.

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Quote from: TrangLee on October 31, 2014, 12:09:24 AM

Quote from: LongAndShort on October 31, 2014, 12:03:52 AM

Yeah no probs i mean we can all see your opinions of whats good and not are pretty well reversed from what is really good and bad

check these out then go check on your xc thread! ever coin we have exposed we have done it with factual evidence! all you have is warped realities and conjecture!
i'm telling you its so much easier being good vs bad..bad is so much more work and you get little reward! thats the really stupid thing about it!

Ok you answer to the Epic Fail that is SDC Zerocoin aka zk-snarks is to bring up crap about some other guys on a different coin? I am going to post everywhere I can the epci fail of SDC's zerocoin. Bloated blockchain and 100% trust to destroy geneis key for it. Not that he couldn't have a copy of it some where either. 100's of thousands for SDC coins being minted at will to dump. Sic!

You can spread your lies all you want..thats why i think you are a twit you just have no evidence and you are insulting everyone by thinking you will fool anyone but yourself and your other dimwitted friends!
the world dosn't revolve around bitcointalk son! so believing that is a threat tbh is really really making me sick now..i am defo out this time foreal you really really made me ill then!
I feel really sorry for the people around you, your very nature is so opressive!

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Quote from: Coolstoryteller on October 31, 2014, 12:11:18 AM

Long quite feeding the TrangLee troll. He think Zerocoin is Shadowsend. Argument is null and void.

Zerocoin is zk-snarks. Shadowsend uses zk-snarks.

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Additionally, ZeroCoin/ZeroCash also has what many consider to be a fatal flaw in the way it works. At launch, everyone using the network must trust the creator to destroy certain secret startup data.

I'm sorry but I don't trust you or the SDC dev to make sure this actually happens. I am sure most people here won't trust you or him to do it. If they do they are damn fools.

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Long quit feeding the TrangLee troll. He thinks Zerocoin is Shadowsend. Argument is null and void. Rather than research the troll will continue to spew crap. Note the puckered lips and unused anus.

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Quote from: TrangLee on October 31, 2014, 12:04:34 AM

Quote from: LongAndShort on October 30, 2014, 11:47:15 PM

Quote from: TrangLee on October 30, 2014, 11:44:23 PM

Some more Zerocoin info on Bloat. Did SDC Ryno figure all this out faster than noted phd's that created it?

Zerocoin is the most complex of the bunch. It uses a combination of digital commitments, one-way accumulators, zero-knowledge proofs, and some extensions to the existing bitcoin protocol to attain an extremely high level of anonymity. It’s difficult to translate all of this into simpler terms, but if you’re interesting in a more ‘technical’ explanation you can find it here.

Of course, such a high level of anonymity does not come without tradeoffs – zerocoin has a high amount of overhead. A zerocoin proof (344 bytes) is needed for each transaction, and stored within the blockchain for eternity. These proofs must be processed by network nodes, adding not only significant storage bloat, but computational requirements as well. Keep in mind that the average bitcoin transaction is about 400 bytes in size, so this is no small amount.

Zerocoin is not even released yet, so it could very well trim itself down before then. For reference, the first implementation used a 50kb proof… But in it’s current state, it doesn’t scale very well. It would function just fine as an altcoin, but if you were to scale the network up to bitcoin size, it’s likely too bloated for it to work. Also worth mentioning is that all the fancy math that zerocoin employs could also open the door for some sort of unforeseen exploit.

bloat is not an issue when you can prune the data fool..cmon got anymore bs!

How about having to 100% trust that the dev will destroy the special key at the launch? You know the one that if he doesn't he can create as many coins as he wants at will. ? 100% turst SDCdev and trolls and all the other nasty coin bashing guys that lie about their developments? Yeah right sure mate!

Shadows implementation will not require a trusted start. It will be trustless. Just watch and see.

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