"See you on the other side"
https://blog.shadowproject.io/2017/03/17/particl-a-new-platform/
Particl: A New Platform - https://particl.io/
Topic: [SDC] ShadowCash | Welcome to the UMBRA (Read 1289712 times)
I'd like to ask that how many people of those who dumped their coins on news release had patience to watch this video from last summer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUuk3W4tSzo
Ryno states already on that video that Silk Road isn't a target of Shadow market and there will be some kind of censorship. It seems that dark market hype was created by those people who were dissappointed on news release. But yeah what I understood from Friday is that legally devs has to say that they are doing utmost to censor dark market items, but what can day do, if users decide to vote for allowing dark market items as market is decentralized.
If something is dissappointing, it's slow progress on stuff where we can actually witness the progression. But I don't mind, if SAME PROJECT continues under a new name and get's some funding. But I'd like to see statement that those SDC's collected for swap won't be used under any circumstances. That would be fair for users donating.
Ryno states already on that video that Silk Road isn't a target of Shadow market and there will be some kind of censorship. It seems that dark market hype was created by those people who were dissappointed on news release. But yeah what I understood from Friday is that legally devs has to say that they are doing utmost to censor dark market items, but what can day do, if users decide to vote for allowing dark market items as market is decentralized.
If something is dissappointing, it's slow progress on stuff where we can actually witness the progression. But I don't mind, if SAME PROJECT continues under a new name and get's some funding. But I'd like to see statement that those SDC's collected for swap won't be used under any circumstances. That would be fair for users donating.
Here are the addresses where SDC and BTC are sent:
Anyone can follow up on those, as you definitely should.
For reference
Can we go over the swap process again, at least link to it here? In these long threads of support/FUD it's hard to find this kind
of info.
of info.
Sure, here : https://www.reddit.com/r/Particl/comments/605sdp/can_you_walk_me_through_the_process_start_to/
They should really prolong this bonus a few days. The wallet takes a long time to sync right now. That would show more fairness.
If you folks need any other assistance, jump onto slack or riot. All details at https://particl.io/
I need to wait tomorrow to move more SDC to particl.io for the swap because I've reached my 7k daily limit withdrawals at Poloniex
Just a friendly warnings guys to think about if you want the bonus 15%. Only 2 more days left for that bonus.
How many days left for the 15% bonus ?
Bonus Day 1 to Day 5Given that March 18 counts as Day 1 (does it?) it would be until March 22
Details: https://particl.io/ --> FAQ --> Token Exchange --> How is the token exchange structured?
Ok thanks.. I see now on the website... so maybe 2 days left
Well, I better start moving my SDC out of Poloniex right now so i don't have any problem with that damn 7k daily limits withdrawals
I want that extra 15% bonus!They should really prolong this bonus a few days. The wallet takes a long time to sync right now. That would show more fairness.
You could use a light wallet (like coinomi on android) and just swipe the private key
Can we go over the swap process again, at least link to it here? In these long threads of support/FUD it's hard to find this kind
of info.
1. register here: https://particl.io/ (+ enable 2FA - recomended)
2. generate SDC address in your dashboard
3. send SDC to address
4. wait a bit for the SDC to arrive
5. timer will start (24h) and the max amount of BTC you can deposit for the 15% bonus (in proportion to your SDC deposit)
6. deposit BTC if you want the bunus
7. done - wait for particl release
(bonus is availible only in the first 5 days...so approx 2 more days to go)
How many days left for the 15% bonus ?
Bonus Day 1 to Day 5Given that March 18 counts as Day 1 (does it?) it would be until March 22
Details: https://particl.io/ --> FAQ --> Token Exchange --> How is the token exchange structured?
Ok thanks.. I see now on the website... so maybe 2 days left
Well, I better start moving my SDC out of Poloniex right now so i don't have any problem with that damn 7k daily limits withdrawals
I want that extra 15% bonus!They should really prolong this bonus a few days. The wallet takes a long time to sync right now. That would show more fairness.
You could use a light wallet (like coinomi on android) and just swipe the private key
Can we go over the swap process again, at least link to it here? In these long threads of support/FUD it's hard to find this kind
of info.
How many days left for the 15% bonus ?
Bonus Day 1 to Day 5Given that March 18 counts as Day 1 (does it?) it would be until March 22
Details: https://particl.io/ --> FAQ --> Token Exchange --> How is the token exchange structured?
Ok thanks.. I see now on the website... so maybe 2 days left
Well, I better start moving my SDC out of Poloniex right now so i don't have any problem with that damn 7k daily limits withdrawals
I want that extra 15% bonus!They should really prolong this bonus a few days. The wallet takes a long time to sync right now. That would show more fairness.
You could use a light wallet (like coinomi on android) and just swipe the private key
How many days left for the 15% bonus ?
Bonus Day 1 to Day 5Given that March 18 counts as Day 1 (does it?) it would be until March 22
Details: https://particl.io/ --> FAQ --> Token Exchange --> How is the token exchange structured?
Ok thanks.. I see now on the website... so maybe 2 days left
Well, I better start moving my SDC out of Poloniex right now so i don't have any problem with that damn 7k daily limits withdrawals
I want that extra 15% bonus!They should really prolong this bonus a few days. The wallet takes a long time to sync right now. That would show more fairness.
Why invest in an ICO and Vaporware promises when Bitbay already have everything Particl are promising?
Shadowcash is already 2 years behind Bitbay! who's going to invest?
Shadowcash is already 2 years behind Bitbay! who's going to invest?
Well it is not an ICO technically, its a swap.
Like Jumbucks and Creditbit recently (there might be others that I am not aware of).
But why a swap and not a hardfork. Let everyone that owns SDC get a share of parts and not have to swap them? They could have keep the 15% inflation in the fork block.
Sounds like a way to get some extra sdc from people not paying attention.
Also why did they price parts at $1 (a bonus .15 parts for $.15 worth of BTC). That helped crash the price as well, since SDC was trading around $4.
Well the whole description on the bonus was a mess, I admit that. But it gets quite clear once you actually deposit the SDC...
I think they chose this road because it is cleaner than a hardfork. With a hardfork, you still have to keep the old codebase in the client so it syncs to the fork block.
This way you can just start clean, have all the updated features of bitcoins codebase and dont have to worry about syncing an old chain...
Why invest in an ICO and Vaporware promises when Bitbay already have everything Particl are promising?
Shadowcash is already 2 years behind Bitbay! who's going to invest?
Shadowcash is already 2 years behind Bitbay! who's going to invest?
Well it is not an ICO technically, its a swap.
Like Jumbucks and Creditbit recently (there might be others that I am not aware of).
But why a swap and not a hardfork. Let everyone that owns SDC get a share of parts and not have to swap them? They could have keep the 15% inflation in the fork block.
Sounds like a way to get some extra sdc from people not paying attention.
Also why did they price parts at $1 (a bonus .15 parts for $.15 worth of BTC). That helped crash the price as well, since SDC was trading around $4.
Why invest in an ICO and Vaporware promises when Bitbay already have everything Particl are promising?
Shadowcash is already 2 years behind Bitbay! who's going to invest?
Shadowcash is already 2 years behind Bitbay! who's going to invest?
Well it is not an ICO technically, its a swap.
Like Jumbucks and Creditbit recently (there might be others that I am not aware of).
How many days left for the 15% bonus ?
Bonus Day 1 to Day 5Given that March 18 counts as Day 1 (does it?) it would be until March 22
Details: https://particl.io/ --> FAQ --> Token Exchange --> How is the token exchange structured?
Ok thanks.. I see now on the website... so maybe 2 days left
Well, I better start moving my SDC out of Poloniex right now so i don't have any problem with that damn 7k daily limits withdrawals
I want that extra 15% bonus! How many days left for the 15% bonus ?
Bonus Day 1 to Day 5Given that March 18 counts as Day 1 (does it?) it would be until March 22
Details: https://particl.io/ --> FAQ --> Token Exchange --> How is the token exchange structured?
How many days left for the 15% bonus ?
Why do you even care, go away. You either get it or you don't. If you dont then why are you still here crying like baby goats.
Fact is the market cap is still where it was 6 months ago. People who sell have to sell to someone who is buying. Buying people want the coin!!!!! they then swap it.
Facts are that people are buying/selling and swapping. Whats your crying hoping to achieve. I bet you idiots still don't even think about that. Whats your purpose?
Mine is i refuse to let dropkick asshole internet trolls run good names through the mud because...because of nothing! You don't even have a purpose, just paranoid delusions!
Fact is the market cap is still where it was 6 months ago. People who sell have to sell to someone who is buying. Buying people want the coin!!!!! they then swap it.
Facts are that people are buying/selling and swapping. Whats your crying hoping to achieve. I bet you idiots still don't even think about that. Whats your purpose?
Mine is i refuse to let dropkick asshole internet trolls run good names through the mud because...because of nothing! You don't even have a purpose, just paranoid delusions!
...then check available replenishments first
And how to ever find out was what really going on? The pump could have been easily staged in such a small coin... the dump was sure to come given the news announced and the way they were announced. Insider knowledge was worth quite "something" in this process. One more aspect to find the whole thing highly unprofessional - to put it mildly.
You cannot prove anything, now you're just smearing peoples good names because you haven't a fucking clue!You will never know because you are playing stupid guessing games instead of doing the math! You are a idiot and need to just go find something that your mind is capable of. Stop this insanity of pretending its somehow able to compute normally.
They signed a NDA you stupid stupid child and if they wanted a cash grab they wouldn't be doing it this way at all you stupid stupid clowns!
In yours and most of the dumbasses here worlds i can call you a pedo now. I have no proof but fuck it right. its what i think you are. You are a pedo and deserve to die!
if i rolled my eyes any harder they'd fall out
Simply go to the opening post(s) of this thread. Read it (them). Fast forward to today.
What did the dev team achieve?
Which of these achievements (claimed by the dev team / real ones) did force their hand to come up with something that ouright stupid like they did?
Let us assume for a moment - and just for the fun of it - that the "migration" from shadowprojekt to particl is a good idea. Just as a hypothesis.
Why wasn't there any discussion of the topic before last Friday's poorly executed "surprise announcement"?
Why was the community left in the dark completely until there was no other chance left then to sell everything and forget about it or buy the scam as offered by the shadowproject (now particl) team?
Why are those still benevolent towards the team and the so-called project forced to give a coin (which holds "some" value, at least) for a mere promise called PART (which holds no value right now - regardless of what the dev team might say) of which NOBODY can tell whether it (this promise) will ever be fulfilled or not? And related to that:
Why the long (weeks, even months) period in which the so-called donors have to hold the infamous bag because the SDCs are gone and the PARTs are not even existing as an functioning altcoin?
...and, and, and... I am just tired of going on...
Let us assume for another moment another hyposthesis, which is that everyone in the shadowproject's team did think, speak and act in the best interest (or what they thought would be the best interest) of the SDC owners. Even under this hypothesis this remains one of the poorest executions of a - well, what is it in essence? Anybody can tell me? - rebranding / restarting that I have ever seen in my life. And as such it did cost the team what is most valuable within the crypto world: Trust.
My trust they lost - for all of the reasons mentioned above. Maybe I am wrong in what I deducted from all this, but, sorry: My money, my gut feelings, my definition(s) of who can be trusted and who not. There is an abundancy of interesting projects out there - minus one (at least for me), which is SDC/PART.
Wish you all the best - whatever your personal decision here might be.
What did the dev team achieve?
Which of these achievements (claimed by the dev team / real ones) did force their hand to come up with something that ouright stupid like they did?
Let us assume for a moment - and just for the fun of it - that the "migration" from shadowprojekt to particl is a good idea. Just as a hypothesis.
Why wasn't there any discussion of the topic before last Friday's poorly executed "surprise announcement"?
Why was the community left in the dark completely until there was no other chance left then to sell everything and forget about it or buy the scam as offered by the shadowproject (now particl) team?
Why are those still benevolent towards the team and the so-called project forced to give a coin (which holds "some" value, at least) for a mere promise called PART (which holds no value right now - regardless of what the dev team might say) of which NOBODY can tell whether it (this promise) will ever be fulfilled or not? And related to that:
Why the long (weeks, even months) period in which the so-called donors have to hold the infamous bag because the SDCs are gone and the PARTs are not even existing as an functioning altcoin?
...and, and, and... I am just tired of going on...
Let us assume for another moment another hyposthesis, which is that everyone in the shadowproject's team did think, speak and act in the best interest (or what they thought would be the best interest) of the SDC owners. Even under this hypothesis this remains one of the poorest executions of a - well, what is it in essence? Anybody can tell me? - rebranding / restarting that I have ever seen in my life. And as such it did cost the team what is most valuable within the crypto world: Trust.
My trust they lost - for all of the reasons mentioned above. Maybe I am wrong in what I deducted from all this, but, sorry: My money, my gut feelings, my definition(s) of who can be trusted and who not. There is an abundancy of interesting projects out there - minus one (at least for me), which is SDC/PART.
Wish you all the best - whatever your personal decision here might be.
+1
Well, illustrated. They liquidated the projects support equity which is very underhanded on the face of it. It was a pure and simple attack on the SDC network....a coup, a hostile take-over, a bait and switch....etc. I think that this form of attack needs a new name: maybe, "Bait and Switch Attack," "Rogue Dev Atttack," or "Support Equity Attack." They effectively killed the SDC network by siphoning off its support equity to bootstrap their own personal project. I don't know if the new project will be successful, but I do know that its launch was very underhanded....I hope the new project does well, but it is obvious network control is non-distributed; therefore, it appears to be a non-secure network at this point....
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