Perhaps a better question would be to ask, what has Shakuru done? Or not done? Like paying his debts yet, and not be completely upfront when soliciting new funds, and apparently reluctant to keep open communication with his legions of creditors. He has also offered several pay for mining service options allegedly without owning any of the equipment required to provide the hashes sold.
And he did it all in a very public way, which creates a very uncomfortable situation for that very same public. Lots of folks are owed lots of money. Lots of folks defended him or spoke in support of him in differnet scenarios, and the long view seems to make a lot of that look like misplaced trust.
Topic: Shakaru Class Action (Read 9036 times)
I've been hearing a lot about shakaru lately on these forums. The threads I mostly see these days tend to be about owed debts or this thread for instance.I'm clueless about what happened to shakaru.Can some1 get me up to date?
Once upon a time...
There was a Nigerian Prince named the Barron. The Barron was in search of his coin...
Hey, the Barron == Shakaru ?
I've been hearing a lot about shakaru lately on these forums. The threads I mostly see these days tend to be about owed debts or this thread for instance.I'm clueless about what happened to shakaru.Can some1 get me up to date?
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I've been hearing a lot about shakaru lately on these forums. The threads I mostly see these days tend to be about owed debts or this thread for instance.I'm clueless about what happened to shakaru.Can some1 get me up to date?
With that in mind, who's up for paying uncle Vin to go work him over? Could even make it a share on GLBSE 
The uncle Vin option would be a lot cheaper, while providing some level of satisfaction, could we get him (uncle vin) to take a few pics?
I'd prefer it if the Uncle Vinny suggestions were left off the thread, though. I know people are joking, but
This was a joke?
Paying for violence to recover money :/ This is the GLBSE and Intersango way? Hmm... interesting.
Please notice this in my comment above:
<=== means tongue in cheek, not to be taken literally, or out of context. 
With that in mind, who's up for paying uncle Vin to go work him over? Could even make it a share on GLBSE
The uncle Vin option would be a lot cheaper, while providing some level of satisfaction, could we get him (uncle vin) to take a few pics?
I'd prefer it if the Uncle Vinny suggestions were left off the thread, though. I know people are joking, but
This was a joke?
Paying for violence to recover money :/ This is the GLBSE and Intersango way? Hmm... interesting.
I can see why this would concern you...
With that in mind, who's up for paying uncle Vin to go work him over? Could even make it a share on GLBSE
The uncle Vin option would be a lot cheaper, while providing some level of satisfaction, could we get him (uncle vin) to take a few pics?
I'd prefer it if the Uncle Vinny suggestions were left off the thread, though. I know people are joking, but
This was a joke?
Paying for violence to recover money :/ This is the GLBSE and Intersango way? Hmm... interesting.
What I am actually interested in trying to find would be the block chains showing where the money went once it was in Andrews hands. We know for a fact it was sent to him. We know some was sent back to the original investors. But if we can show the majority was withdrawn directly by him, or used by him online for misc purchases un-related to his op, we have a case where a legal money judgement can be obtained along with wage orders, in case he continues to give promises with no results.
Following tainted coins is not an easy undertaking.
Good luck with that.
Thanks. The challenge is actually quite fascinating to me. But in the end there will be the cash deposits and transfers, paypal records, credit card transfers, etc., Just not much hope of ever collecting though.
What I am actually interested in trying to find would be the block chains showing where the money went once it was in Andrews hands. We know for a fact it was sent to him. We know some was sent back to the original investors. But if we can show the majority was withdrawn directly by him, or used by him online for misc purchases un-related to his op, we have a case where a legal money judgement can be obtained along with wage orders, in case he continues to give promises with no results.
Following tainted coins is not an easy undertaking.
Good luck with that.
At some point a person has to wonder... why should they/we trust you? Some of your behavior does set off red flags. At first you seemed normal and easy to get along with. The longer you're around, the less I trust you. You need to cut the rhetoric and threats out and stick to the facts.
She was Shakaru's roommate after all
Touche'
At some point a person has to wonder... why should they/we trust you? Some of your behavior does set off red flags. At first you seemed normal and easy to get along with. The longer you're around, the less I trust you. You need to cut the rhetoric and threats out and stick to the facts.
She was Shakaru's roommate after all
Bitcoin is an alt currency/community experiment. It is the Wild Wild West of a community currency without boarders. There are the traditional ways of dealing with these imperfections and there will be new ways of dealing with them. If the BitCoin is considered just a currency pegged to a traditional fiat, then relying on the traditional systems will work (and not work).
Out of everything said here today, this comment made me just sit back and smile. This really is The Wild West.There is a tremendous amount of good information, thank you. I definitely have a lot of reading to do. And some other interesting and even amusing stuff.
As far as my attorney, should this go that direction, he is a personal friend that is doing this as a favor to me. Preferably, Andrew comes up with a legit repayment plan and sticks to it. Last he said to me was he is flying to Seattle next Sunday or Monday for a job that is supposed to pay for most of the debt as well as start a continues flow of btc and he is also waiting for payb.tc's auction to end to be able to lay out a structured plan with a chapter 13 like build to it. So, we will be waiting for awhile yet.
I agree a class action is not realistic, but what can happen is a group of plaintiffs who have proof of contracts and payments to him, cash, btc or otherwise, can compile a claim together to obtain a money judgement against future wage assignments. And I say future because there is nothing to be taken from him now.
Again, thanks for the pile of night stand reading.
I'd prefer it if the Uncle Vinny suggestions were left off the thread, though. I know people are joking, but
This was a joke?
If not, the moderators don't take kindly to exhortations to violence on the forums.
Omigod! If we cannot call out to the satirical spirit of our pretend Uncle Vinny to handle issues when we (as a community, not "we" as in trying to include myself in this group of rightfully pissed off creditors...) when we have gone and given many thousands of dollars worth of value to a cheat, and PRETEND that we might have somebody actually threaten to break somebody's limbs over that debt, then I fear, dear friends, that this bus has taken a very, very wrong turn into Politically Correct Land.
If the Moderators ever have reason to not take kindly to any of my exhortations, those advocating fantasy Cosa Nostra violence, encouraging euthanasia of the intellectually challenged, stout caning of scammers, and supporting ferret cage match death sport... well, the Moderators know how to contact me and correct me. I suspect those self-same Moderati understand that my next thrust of the tongue-in-cheek rapier will be visited upon them.
This thing that Shakuru has done sucks hugely. That goes without saying. Some of the hyperbole surrounding it is over the top, but not unjustified. I merely rise to the occasion to cast a little light on the proposed class action suit as resolution concept. It ain't gonna work.
'Nuff said.
Fair enough
herp derp
You thrust your knowledge of the vernacular around like a champ. Do you offer lessons?
witnessed.
I'd prefer it if the Uncle Vinny suggestions were left off the thread, though. I know people are joking, but
This was a joke?
If not, the moderators don't take kindly to exhortations to violence on the forums.
Omigod! If we cannot call out to the satirical spirit of our pretend Uncle Vinny to handle issues when we (as a community, not "we" as in trying to include myself in this group of rightfully pissed off creditors...) when we have gone and given many thousands of dollars worth of value to a cheat, and PRETEND that we might have somebody actually threaten to break somebody's limbs over that debt, then I fear, dear friends, that this bus has taken a very, very wrong turn into Politically Correct Land.
If the Moderators ever have reason to not take kindly to any of my exhortations, those advocating fantasy Cosa Nostra violence, encouraging euthanasia of the intellectually challenged, stout caning of scammers, and supporting ferret cage match death sport... well, the Moderators know how to contact me and correct me. I suspect those self-same Moderati understand that my next thrust of the tongue-in-cheek rapier will be visited upon them.
This thing that Shakuru has done sucks hugely. That goes without saying. Some of the hyperbole surrounding it is over the top, but not unjustified. I merely rise to the occasion to cast a little light on the proposed class action suit as resolution concept. It ain't gonna work.
'Nuff said.
You thrust your knowledge of the vernacular around like a champ. Do you offer lessons?
I'd prefer it if the Uncle Vinny suggestions were left off the thread, though. I know people are joking, but
This was a joke?
If not, the moderators don't take kindly to exhortations to violence on the forums.
Omigod! If we cannot call out to the satirical spirit of our pretend Uncle Vinny to handle issues when we (as a community, not "we" as in trying to include myself in this group of rightfully pissed off creditors...) when we have gone and given many thousands of dollars worth of value to a cheat, and PRETEND that we might have somebody actually threaten to break somebody's limbs over that debt, then I fear, dear friends, that this bus has taken a very, very wrong turn into Politically Correct Land.
If the Moderators ever have reason to not take kindly to any of my exhortations, those advocating fantasy Cosa Nostra violence, encouraging euthanasia of the intellectually challenged, stout caning of scammers, and supporting ferret cage match death sport... well, the Moderators know how to contact me and correct me. I suspect those self-same Moderati understand that my next thrust of the tongue-in-cheek rapier will be visited upon them.
This thing that Shakuru has done sucks hugely. That goes without saying. Some of the hyperbole surrounding it is over the top, but not unjustified. I merely rise to the occasion to cast a little light on the proposed class action suit as resolution concept. It ain't gonna work.
'Nuff said.
I'd prefer it if the Uncle Vinny suggestions were left off the thread, though. I know people are joking, but
This was a joke?
If not, the moderators don't take kindly to exhortations to violence on the forums.
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Can't get blood from a stone folks
Ah, but you can get blood from a turnip - just insert the proper gene sequences into the turnip DNA (was the subject of my final paper in my intro to genetic engineering class in colllege).
I'd prefer it if the Uncle Vinny suggestions were left off the thread, though. I know people are joking, but
This was a joke?Go Uncle Vinny! Vinny 2012!
I'd prefer it if the Uncle Vinny suggestions were left off the thread, though. I know people are joking, but
This was a joke?
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