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I don't know why some gamblers oftentimes like the use of VPN if not for something fishy that they may want to perform in which no one knows about than themselves alone, so many crypto gambling casinos go against such, because allowing for it may render them to any form of attack some fraudulent gamblers may launch against their system and such could be to escape the security measures and attack.
I'm not sure about that, sometimes third party providers are blocking locations with no reason while the casino using them allow people from this location to fully register and play there, that's boring and unfair for those customers, so using VPNs let them circumvent those illegitimate restrictions from faddy providers. I'm not aware of a reputed casino having banned or even warned a customer doing that.
I have to disagree. Casinos have to comply with their game providers' own terms and have to enforce those terms on their customers.If a game provider prohibits players from a certain country from playing some of their games then using a VPN to circumvent this restriction is automatically a breach of the casino's rules and you may get banned because of it.
If you read casinos ToS, you will see that they state which countries are prohibited from using all their services alongside with countries prohibited from playing certain games according to game providers terms.
I've experienced in some casinos such as duelbits, rollbits and stake. FYI, some providers are not available to be played from my country due to mentioned reason above and I used VPN to play the games from those providers. In fact, there is no issue at all by bypassing the restrictions from the providers. Interesting fact, there are even some casinos that have a system to make the game by providers can be played without restriction from the providers. In the past, when I could not play Push Gaming and Relax Gaming in most casinos but there is one casino namely chips.gg where I can play them without VPN. I have even asked support from few casinos about it and most of them said that it is fine to use VPN to bypass the restriction by providers but not to bypass the restriction by the casino's general term.
I'm not sure about that, sometimes third party providers are blocking locations with no reason while the casino using them allow people from this location to fully register and play there, that's boring and unfair for those customers, so using VPNs let them circumvent those illegitimate restrictions from faddy providers. I'm not aware of a reputed casino having banned or even warned a customer doing that.
I have to disagree. Casinos have to comply with their game providers' own terms and have to enforce those terms on their customers.If a game provider prohibits players from a certain country from playing some of their games then using a VPN to circumvent this restriction is automatically a breach of the casino's rules and you may get banned because of it.
If you read casinos ToS, you will see that they state which countries are prohibited from using all their services alongside with countries prohibited from playing certain games according to game providers terms.
But I think that the gain from such total de-anonymization is not too great. But the loss of anonymity is theoretically a huge violation of the human right to privacy, which, of course, cannot be completely ignored by the legislators of a civilized country. Therefore, I still have hope that the issue of the absolute legality of anonymous payments in cryptocurrencies will still be resolved somehow.
Well, I guess it is a matter of perspective then. I think you put too much credit on the government, most of them don't care about users' privacy unless they can utilize the same thing that privacy enthusiasts are looking for such as TOR. With the gambling business, or crypto payments that you mentioned above, their priority by nature is different. Most businesses would either follow the requirement, or try to launch overseas where they can also stay anonymous, but then it will be problematic for the users if they decide to scam and so on. At the end of the day, I believe the cost to maintain and filter out people who abuse VPN probably isn't worth the cost, especially if the market for privacy-enthusiast gamblers is small (this is not about allowing payments in crypto to begin with). Even if the government somehow mandates businesses to accept VPN users', I'm pretty sure it will come with other KYC tools in hand. CMIIW.But we should all pay attention that among the flow of information from legislators, those who determine the functioning of financial systems in the world, some progressive positive applause still comes. For example, I know that a group of congressmen is strongly opposed to the introduction of a digital dollar. And it is quite possible that the introduction of such a CBDC will still be postponed for some time. The option of cash (that is, involving anonymous payments) circulation of dollars in some countries, for example, El Salvador, Ecuador or Panama, is also retained. Legislation on personal data and its preservation has also been adopted. In Europe this is a Decree called "GDPD".
There are laws regarding a person's right to privacy.
So the issue of anonymity still faces legislators and they will somehow resolve it.
But everything fundamentally depends on the general vector of development of civilization. For now, this vector is directed and does not go in the direction that the masses of people want.
Unfortunately.
But I think that the gain from such total de-anonymization is not too great. But the loss of anonymity is theoretically a huge violation of the human right to privacy, which, of course, cannot be completely ignored by the legislators of a civilized country. Therefore, I still have hope that the issue of the absolute legality of anonymous payments in cryptocurrencies will still be resolved somehow.
Well, I guess it is a matter of perspective then. I think you put too much credit on the government, most of them don't care about users' privacy unless they can utilize the same thing that privacy enthusiasts are looking for such as TOR. With the gambling business, or crypto payments that you mentioned above, their priority by nature is different. Most businesses would either follow the requirement, or try to launch overseas where they can also stay anonymous, but then it will be problematic for the users if they decide to scam and so on. At the end of the day, I believe the cost to maintain and filter out people who abuse VPN probably isn't worth the cost, especially if the market for privacy-enthusiast gamblers is small (this is not about allowing payments in crypto to begin with). Even if the government somehow mandates businesses to accept VPN users', I'm pretty sure it will come with other KYC tools in hand. CMIIW. 
If we are to even consider the replies on this thread on recommendations for the platforms that accept the use of VPN, I don't think there are suggestions made and if any at all, they are not many, gambling platforms don't usually demand or take in the use of VPN for their website, but Incase we see some that allows for that, maybe they are just new in the business or doesn't have enough resources to employ for the measures that take care on that.
Most of the new casino is the one that very strict on VPN users because they are strictly complying with their license and at the same time to protect their casino from multiple account abuse.
To date, only a less countries like Iran, Turkmenistan, North Korea and Belarus, which are not even popular with casinos thought it to be illegal. Many casinos allow the use of it but for the issues of mistaking it for many accounts by the same person when the IPs generated by it clash. That is the only downside to the use of VPN in my opinion. Regardless, we should ensure to avoid it if our casinos specifically forbid it.
In general, it turns out that gambling players who want to remain anonymous for various reasons are left to choose casinos that are not very reliable and not too well-known, which indeed increases the likelihood for such players to encounter fraudulent casino sites. In this I see clear discrimination against anonymous players. And for some reason everyone thinks that non-anonymous players are somehow “more correct” than anonymous players.
But this is completely wrong and this discrimination against people based on the principle of anonymity/non-anonymity, in my opinion, should be stopped.
Moreover, this must be done at the legislative level.
What kind of law can achieve what you propose though? So you will allow anonymous/VPN users to register multiple times, but make sure there is adequate cheating protection that somehow must be able to detect that one account is connected to the other through chain analysis? Wouldn't that mean they don't fully respect the users' privacy too? I've never heard people suggest that anonymous players are "wrong" or something similar, but you need to realize that these businesses probably don't want to spend more on filtering accounts so they just ban tools like VPNs. If you still risk it and win it big, there is a high chance thy will just "scam" you. I doubt a government cares about users' privacy so hoping they make a different license for that is kinda cope.But this is completely wrong and this discrimination against people based on the principle of anonymity/non-anonymity, in my opinion, should be stopped.
Moreover, this must be done at the legislative level.
But I think that the gain from such total de-anonymization is not too great. But the loss of anonymity is theoretically a huge violation of the human right to privacy, which, of course, cannot be completely ignored by the legislators of a civilized country. Therefore, I still have hope that the issue of the absolute legality of anonymous payments in cryptocurrencies will still be resolved somehow. Perhaps this will not happen in the coming years, but after many years. But humanity, having had enough of accurate digital personal identification in necessary cases and in generally completely unnecessary cases, that is, almost always, will still return to the issue of the need for anonymity and maintaining the secret of private life.
And now, apparently, it is too early to update this issue at the legislative level, even in civilized countries.
I used a VPN few times there in order to be able to play to some games not available from my country and I didn't get bad surprises.
This is the exact reason why most casinos do not tolerate the use of VPNs. You were lucky that they didn't lock your account and confiscate your money.Using VPNs isn't supposed to be a problem if done for legitimate purposes such as increasing privacy and/or security. The problem is that most gamblers do it to circumvent restrictions or abuse bonuses.. So casinos just ban it to avoid unnecessary headaches.
Yes that is true, I remember during the ban on my nation in the use of X formally called Twitter VPN was introduced for us citizens to access the network, I think it main purpose is to hide some identity.
One of the challenge I face with one casinos game because of the VPN I was finding it difficult to run the game which I never know it's the VPN that is coursing the issue I realized when I have losses on the process.
Although some casinos allow the usage of vpns since casinos could be banned in their country so there will be a need to get be hind the mask of a VPN in their country.
I used a VPN few times there in order to be able to play to some games not available from my country and I didn't get bad surprises.
This is the exact reason why most casinos do not tolerate the use of VPNs. You were lucky that they didn't lock your account and confiscate your money.Using VPNs isn't supposed to be a problem if done for legitimate purposes such as increasing privacy and/or security. The problem is that most gamblers do it to circumvent restrictions or abuse bonuses.. So casinos just ban it to avoid unnecessary headaches.
Yes that is true, I remember during the ban on my nation in the use of X formally called Twitter VPN was introduced for us citizens to access the network, I think it main purpose is to hide some identity.
One of the challenge I face with one csinos game because of the VPN I was finding it difficult to run the game which I never know it's the VPN that is coursing the issue I realized when I have losses on the process.
there are really that those who have been blocked out and cant be possibly be able for you to click or for you to be able to play. This is how should restriction and prohibition should really be applied and not
as a whole in terms of access. We do know that each site does follow terms and regulations specially if its a licensed one. If there would really be prohibitions or bans of certain places then
they wont really be having no choice but strictly imposing it out.
When it comes on accessing via VPN then it would be common sense whether its allowed or not.If you are really that eager to access a prohibited site then you do know that
you have broken their rules then expect on what would happen once caught you. In answering the question about best VPN them im not aware for some list
but for sure there are tons that you could make use of.
I used a VPN few times there in order to be able to play to some games not available from my country and I didn't get bad surprises.
This is the exact reason why most casinos do not tolerate the use of VPNs. You were lucky that they didn't lock your account and confiscate your money.Using VPNs isn't supposed to be a problem if done for legitimate purposes such as increasing privacy and/or security. The problem is that most gamblers do it to circumvent restrictions or abuse bonuses.. So casinos just ban it to avoid unnecessary headaches.
Yes that is true, I remember during the ban on my nation in the use of X formally called Twitter VPN was introduced for us citizens to access the network, I think it main purpose is to hide some identity.
One of the challenge I face with one csinos game because of the VPN I was finding it difficult to run the game which I never know it's the VPN that is coursing the issue I realized when I have losses on the process.
I know one casino explicitly claiming to be "VPN friendly" here, it's what they claim in the title of their ANN and their signature at least, it's Empire casino.
They use to be pretty active here with many special Bitcointalk promotions, but they are less present nowadays. I used a VPN few times there in order to be able to play to some games not available from my country and I didn't get bad surprises.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/empireio-free-payouts-vpn-friendly-no-upfront-kyc-1-btc-bonus-5464593 https://archive.is/uEU8j
Many casinos don't care if you use a VPN tbh, but if you get a big win they can oppose it to you to refuse to give your winnings.
Well said, they pretend to allow VPNs but you can never find it in their ToS, they knew you are changing locations with a VPN and they have no problem bouncing on you for using a VPN, but once you win a lot of money, they can decide to hold your money using the VPN as an excuse not to release the fund, and the only question you will be left with is, why now? They use to be pretty active here with many special Bitcointalk promotions, but they are less present nowadays. I used a VPN few times there in order to be able to play to some games not available from my country and I didn't get bad surprises.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/empireio-free-payouts-vpn-friendly-no-upfront-kyc-1-btc-bonus-5464593 https://archive.is/uEU8j
Many casinos don't care if you use a VPN tbh, but if you get a big win they can oppose it to you to refuse to give your winnings.
The truth is you won't know what will happen when you win using a VPN connection, this is why I will not recommend using a VPN at all, you want to stay very clean so that when you get lucky, there won't be anything holding you back from claiming your reward.
Honestly, people like abusing everything, gamblers do have their problems as well, they will abuse anything if they can, as a gambler I don't get why anyone will open more than one account on an online casino, why are people even doing this? Having multiple accounts won't increase your chances of winning when gambling.
In general, it turns out that gambling players who want to remain anonymous for various reasons are left to choose casinos that are not very reliable and not too well-known, which indeed increases the likelihood for such players to encounter fraudulent casino sites. In this I see clear discrimination against anonymous players. And for some reason everyone thinks that non-anonymous players are somehow “more correct” than anonymous players.
But this is completely wrong and this discrimination against people based on the principle of anonymity/non-anonymity, in my opinion, should be stopped.
Moreover, this must be done at the legislative level.
What kind of law can achieve what you propose though? So you will allow anonymous/VPN users to register multiple times, but make sure there is adequate cheating protection that somehow must be able to detect that one account is connected to the other through chain analysis? Wouldn't that mean they don't fully respect the users' privacy too? I've never heard people suggest that anonymous players are "wrong" or something similar, but you need to realize that these businesses probably don't want to spend more on filtering accounts so they just ban tools like VPNs. If you still risk it and win it big, there is a high chance thy will just "scam" you. I doubt a government cares about users' privacy so hoping they make a different license for that is kinda cope. But this is completely wrong and this discrimination against people based on the principle of anonymity/non-anonymity, in my opinion, should be stopped.
Moreover, this must be done at the legislative level.
If we are to even consider the replies on this thread on recommendations for the platforms that accept the use of VPN, I don't think there are suggestions made and if any at all, they are not many, gambling platforms don't usually demand or take in the use of VPN for their website, but Incase we see some that allows for that, maybe they are just new in the business or doesn't have enough resources to employ for the measures that take care on that.
Most of the new casino is the one that very strict on VPN users because they are strictly complying with their license and at the same time to protect their casino from multiple account abuse.
Most of the casino that is still VPN friendly are those established one since they want their loyal customers to become free as much as possible. Big online casino has system that can detect if users have VPN that use to bypass the casino rules that’s why they are confident to allow VPN with their players.
I guess that site either go "full rogue" like no KYC, no questions and sometimes the chance of them simply disappearing in an exit scam, versus the all compliant sites that really care about being always in the right side of the (US mostly) regulations for gambling and money laundering. Essentially, you have to chose the first category if you are seeking to use VPN.
I do not consider cases where a site, by decision of the authorities of a particular country, is simply blocked on the territory of that country and the player simply cannot use the site and play without a VPN. In all other cases, this signal about maintaining the anonymity of the player’s location theoretically makes this player not very reliable from the point of view of the casino itself. And in this case, the likelihood immediately increases that the casino will begin to require KYC and the player’s anonymity will be completely lost.
In general, it turns out that gambling players who want to remain anonymous for various reasons are left to choose casinos that are not very reliable and not too well-known, which indeed increases the likelihood for such players to encounter fraudulent casino sites. In this I see clear discrimination against anonymous players. And for some reason everyone thinks that non-anonymous players are somehow “more correct” than anonymous players.
But this is completely wrong and this discrimination against people based on the principle of anonymity/non-anonymity, in my opinion, should be stopped.
Moreover, this must be done at the legislative level.
Otherwise, humanity will turn into a “digital concentration camp” and “digital slavery.”
If we are to even consider the replies on this thread on recommendations for the platforms that accept the use of VPN, I don't think there are suggestions made and if any at all, they are not many, gambling platforms don't usually demand or take in the use of VPN for their website, but Incase we see some that allows for that, maybe they are just new in the business or doesn't have enough resources to employ for the measures that take care on that.
Most of the new casino is the one that very strict on VPN users because they are strictly complying with their license and at the same time to protect their casino from multiple account abuse.
Most of the casino that is still VPN friendly are those established one since they want their loyal customers to become free as much as possible. Big online casino has system that can detect if users have VPN that use to bypass the casino rules that’s why they are confident to allow VPN with their players.
I guess that site either go "full rogue" like no KYC, no questions and sometimes the chance of them simply disappearing in an exit scam, versus the all compliant sites that really care about being always in the right side of the (US mostly) regulations for gambling and money laundering. Essentially, you have to chose the first category if you are seeking to use VPN.
If we are to even consider the replies on this thread on recommendations for the platforms that accept the use of VPN, I don't think there are suggestions made and if any at all, they are not many, gambling platforms don't usually demand or take in the use of VPN for their website, but Incase we see some that allows for that, maybe they are just new in the business or doesn't have enough resources to employ for the measures that take care on that.
Most of the new casino is the one that very strict on VPN users because they are strictly complying with their license and at the same time to protect their casino from multiple account abuse.
Most of the casino that is still VPN friendly are those established one since they want their loyal customers to become free as much as possible. Big online casino has system that can detect if users have VPN that use to bypass the casino rules that’s why they are confident to allow VPN with their players.
I'm sorry but I kinda disagree with that. New and old casinos as long as both are regulated will have to implement the law from their regulators. it doesn't matter if a casino is new or old, they both protect their investment and they don't want to be questioned by the regulators that mind end them up to losing their license.
Using VPN should not be an issue if the TOS does allow it, however, if there's cheating involve in using it, of course the casino will try to implement the action according to their TOS. Some users are blaming it to VPN when in reality it's them who are violating the TOS. Sometimes we have to be cautious with the information we read online as some of them might be one sided, just created to destroy the reputation of a casino.
Maybe what he means by saying the old casinos is in referring to the existing ones that might not have build a regulation or taken some security measure over their platforms on the use of VPN unlike the recently developed gambling platforms newly introduced, well, am not siding for that but as we commonly, its not possible for someone to build a network and take no control measure over such, except they fail to adopt the newly advanced security measures that detect for such or have poor rated developers.
This is the exact reason why most casinos do not tolerate the use of VPNs. You were lucky that they didn't lock your account and confiscate your money.
Using VPNs isn't supposed to be a problem if done for legitimate purposes such as increasing privacy and/or security. The problem is that most gamblers do it to circumvent restrictions or abuse bonuses.. So casinos just ban it to avoid unnecessary headaches.
I'm not sure about that, sometimes third party providers are blocking locations with no reason while the casino using them allow people from this location to fully register and play there, that's boring and unfair for those customers, so using VPNs let them circumvent those illegitimate restrictions from faddy providers. I'm not aware of a reputed casino having banned or even warned a customer doing that. In addition, in most countries people are free to use VPNs as they want, especially for their privacy like you said, so people are free to not willing to share their IP addresses with such tedious providers. Using VPNs isn't supposed to be a problem if done for legitimate purposes such as increasing privacy and/or security. The problem is that most gamblers do it to circumvent restrictions or abuse bonuses.. So casinos just ban it to avoid unnecessary headaches.
If we are to even consider the replies on this thread on recommendations for the platforms that accept the use of VPN, I don't think there are suggestions made and if any at all, they are not many, gambling platforms don't usually demand or take in the use of VPN for their website, but Incase we see some that allow for that, maybe they are just new in the business or doesn't have enough resources to employ for the measures that take care on that.
Aside from the regulatory reasons that make casinos to turn down VPN usage, other factors also discourage the use of VPN such as its effect on the loading speed of the site and how VPN also affect some game functionality on the casino, these things contribute to why those casinos never allow VPN in general or why gamblers do not see VPN usage as something attractive. If not, most of the casinos are VPN-friendly and do not mind gamblers who have verified accounts using VPN to bypass any restrictions if need be at some point.
I almost forgot about Empire casino back in the 2022-2023, their used to be so active and for that, they generated a lot of visibility for the brand but right now they are less active but the casino is still very much active I used it few weeks back and the site is still accessible so for that even though the have limited visibility here in the forum, but the site is still up and running and we have to give it up to them for that, it far much better to have a working casino that building a name for yourself but at the end of the day become inactive with the service, we have a few casinos that ended up like that in the past and the outcome wasn't good for customers.
So if anyone is looking foraea VPN-friendly casino you can have more confidence in those that promote VPN acceptance than in those casinos that have undefined stands on VPN.
So if anyone is looking foraea VPN-friendly casino you can have more confidence in those that promote VPN acceptance than in those casinos that have undefined stands on VPN.
What I don't understand about this is that most people seek to have more power of anonymity, more privacy and if it is a casino that allows emptiness, what elements is missing to make it more active, I don't understand some people in the forum Many look for casinos that are with VPN allowed and that is something that is required to not be tracked, but to be of my use a casino that is not so active and I go out because it does not give me much to trust, and if it is to be able to have more problems In the future of not being able to withdraw that is something I don't like, just imagining that I win about 1000usd and that the casino opposes this withdrawal is something that will frustrate me.
If these casinos accept it, why can't the most trusted casinos accept a VPN, what fear can they feel in allowing the use of this? We couldn't see things any other way, why take a risk in these casinos if the ones we trust the most don't support them, this means that sop VPNs are no longer prohibited.
I know one casino explicitly claiming to be "VPN friendly" here, it's what they claim in the title of their ANN and their signature at least, it's Empire casino.
They use to be pretty active here with many special Bitcointalk promotions, but they are less present nowadays. I used a VPN few times there in order to be able to play to some games not available from my country and I didn't get bad surprises.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/empireio-free-payouts-vpn-friendly-no-upfront-kyc-1-btc-bonus-5464593 https://archive.is/uEU8j
Many casinos don't care if you use a VPN tbh, but if you get a big win they can oppose it to you in order to refuse to give your winnings.
I almost forgot about Empire casino back in the 2022-2023, their used to be so active and for that, they generated a lot of visibility for the brand but right now they are less active but the casino is still very much active I used it few weeks back and the site is still accessible so for that even though the have limited visibility here in the forum, but the site is still up and running and we have to give it up to them for that, it far much better to have a working casino that building a name for yourself but at the end of the day become inactive with the service, we have a few casinos that ended up like that in the past and the outcome wasn't good for customers. They use to be pretty active here with many special Bitcointalk promotions, but they are less present nowadays. I used a VPN few times there in order to be able to play to some games not available from my country and I didn't get bad surprises.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/empireio-free-payouts-vpn-friendly-no-upfront-kyc-1-btc-bonus-5464593 https://archive.is/uEU8j
Many casinos don't care if you use a VPN tbh, but if you get a big win they can oppose it to you in order to refuse to give your winnings.
So if anyone is looking foraea VPN-friendly casino you can have more confidence in those that promote VPN acceptance than in those casinos that have undefined stands on VPN.
Most of the popular casinos here that I've used, I have used it with a VPN and I have never been questioned about it. Or it was just a good time that they were not so strict at all. It's been so long since I've used one for most of my visits to casinos. What are the popular ones? you name them all as most of them have their own announcement thread here and as long as it's not a big amount that you are depositing and withdrawing, I think that you'll face no problem by repeating that activity with a VPN.
You shouldn’t doing this on Stake since they have a very clear stance regarding VPN or anything that will hide your IP address to fake your location. You bankroll might be seize totally regardless of the amount once they found out that you are using VPN when playing. They have a method to determine whether the players use VPN or not so make sure to stay on this website when using VPN because you will never when they will bust you, worst if they caught you after winning a jackpot.
There’s really a lot of casino ok with VPN providing you are not from restricted country but there’s casino like Stake that totally doesn’t like VPN and specifically have rules regarding it on ToS.
Most of the popular casinos here that I've used, I have used it with a VPN and I have never been questioned about it. Or it was just a good time that they were not so strict at all. It's been so long since I've used one for most of my visits to casinos. What are the popular ones? you name them all as most of them have their own announcement thread here and as long as it's not a big amount that you are depositing and withdrawing, I think that you'll face no problem by repeating that activity with a VPN.
No doubt things like these were going good for the many and peoples love to enjoy these as well, but recently we have too many strict policies which are creating problems but still too many peoples are also still not love to go through with KYC even with this risk factor improved, but they are well aware about this all and doing their stuff within their limits which are not problem.Using VPN is surely not bad as now in our country things are going worse and many are using this VPN for their own stuff even this all is not new but still we need to go with all ToS because if we will go against any policy then surely we have to face consequences as well but few sites and casinos are doing good because they clear all before any problem.
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