Topic: Share trusted VPN Friendly crypto casinos - page 10. (Read 3984 times)

This is true, some gambling sites allowed VPN but only in the country where their website are operating legally and having this kind of rule will lead to KYC as they will need to verify first that you are residing to a country that their website or gambling is legal and you'll only using the VPN for privacy and if you use different IP from different countries it would assume that you are using it to just access the site and therefore they will ask you to undergo KYC procedure.

Nope, if that is on the rules like on their TOS, then we are allowed to use a VPN. Other casinos may announce they allow but in the TOS it's not written. I think they really need to emphasize it already as this VPN has been a problem now and some casinos used it to scam users and point the issue into violation of the terms.

VPN should be fine, why would they prohibit use if we just want to achieve privacy, although we follow the KYC procedure and we are known to them, we still have the right to keep our privacy by using a VPN, as long as it's in the TOS (allowed) it shouldn't be a problem.

I completely agree. 
Of course, you should never trust the rule that a casino allows the use of a VPN.  Moreover, this probably works to ensure more players visiting the casino itself, and when it comes to the issue of transferring the money won to the client’s account or simply returning money from the deposit, then the VPN begins to be an obstacle to these financial transactions.  However, it is unlikely that you will find such a clarification in the casino ToS directly in the relevant paragraphs that allow the use of VPN. 
Well, when KYC is required for these financial transactions, then using a VPN becomes pointless in general. 
So a VPN can only be used if you are ready to gamble and always only “pay for pleasure” without the opportunity to receive your winnings. 

Yep, there are definitely risks in using a VPN to access gambling on various sites, and users should be aware of this. Even if a user clarifies this issue with the casino support and gets a positive answer about the use of VPN, it doesn't guarantee that the casino won't change its mind or change the ToS at any point in the future.

Since sometimes the ToS or other regulatory documents contain lists of countries in the world where the activities of a particular casino are prohibited, then of course, even through a VPN, it is quite risky to use such a casino from the territory of a country that is on the restrictive list.  Moreover, these lists can be formed by governments and countries themselves, for some of their own reasons to prohibit gambling.  Also, the lists can be generated by the casinos themselves based on prohibitions from government agencies of the jurisdiction in which the casino is registered.  This, of course, is being done to the detriment of the casino business and in connection with all kinds of sanctions imposed. 

If we talk about the practice of a player who plays in violation of these prohibitions and uses a VPN, then, I think, in 95% of cases (and maybe 100%!),
if the player wins some kind of big win, he still will not be able to get it  .  And the casino will introduce a restriction, and a bank transfer cannot be done normally.  Well, if th e payment is a cryptocurrenncy, then there is a KYC requirement, and either the client himself will refuse to do it, or the casino will point out obvious violations of the rules and this prohibition. 
So playing through a VPN turns out to be extremely dangerous for the player.

Each site does that that different set or numbers of countries which are banned or excluded or prohibited to play out into their platform and this is mostly can be found to be mentioned on their terms and conditions.

This is why it would really be always relevant or something that important on trying out read up these terms for you to be able to at least be aware on what are those countries which are really that banned.
Why would really be trying out to access a platform even if you do know that this is something that you are really that banned on? You are just basically putting up yourself into issues if you are
really that hard headed on trying out to access on a platform where your country is included into the list.

Most of them does have those kind of exclusions, so there's no point that you would really be having that kind of approach and since we do have tons of
available platforms or sites in the market then you can really always choose or look for another one and this is something that you should really
be considering some time.

This is a very good narration and is similar to the ones I've explained in the past on various VPN and multiple accounts allegation threads. Well, we are getting wiser daily and only inexperienced gamblers should be entrapped in this issue again. If an experienced gambler still falls victim, it could only be an affront and foolishness that causes that. We know now that casinos frown so much on VPNs and multiple accounts, is it not better to avoid the two strictly to save our heads?

Fine, some people are merely victims of this due to the use of VPN or even their local dynamic IPs. Still, in this case of dynamic IPs, I believe it would be a limited number of customers that would have the same IP clashed, which the casino may still further investigate to know the truth that it is not from the same person judging by how to gamble. But still, some casinos would use that to cheat the customer, this is certainly unfair. But it is the customer who puts it up himself when his local IP can't access a casino but still forces himself to use a VPN to access the casino. Is it a Must you gamble with them? I believe we should always weigh our options and the risks associated with them before we risk them.

Although currently VPN software has become a target for those whose casinos are banned in their area, my advice is that if you have another alternative, try using an alternative instead of having to use a VPN device.

But as far as I know some casinos don't like their users connecting using VPN, there are various reasons for that, However, if you have to force yourself to use a VPN, try looking for a gambling platform that has a good reputation, that might be the only way to keep you safe.

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Regarding your question, in this forum I have seen casinos that implement VPN features.
Example:
* Topic: Empire.io | Instant Payouts, VPN-Friendly, 5K+ games & 1 BTC bonus!
* Topic: JustCasino.io | Get the Best Crypto Casino Experience

However, it's just information you need to read in detail in their thread, before you use their casino, I don't use their casino, you need to review it in detail before doing activities there.

Sincerely, in a sane world, any serious company will treat their customers and partners fairly, but if anyone you are dealing with is doing otherwise, then it is better you leave them immediately. There are rules in this world as we are not in a banana republic, only that many companies are overbearing and do as they like thereby cheating their customers unchallenged. Really, many companies are treating their customers unfairly, and this often goes unpunished because of the lack of due regulation and reports by the customers to the appropriate bodies for questioning and sanctions. No matter how many times they change their terms and conditions, they should be updating all the parties involved. Failure to do that is their fault.

This is money we are taking about, they have to respect their customers and not treat them as a nobody for their money, that is bad. If any customer could be so angry and could take them to the court of competent jurisdiction, it would be another story entirely, especially when the customer has the needed evidence from the beginning till the time of the discrepancy. I've had dealings with enough companies that are truly regulated and I know how they behave. They do it so formally to the point that you can't even have anything against them when it comes to the updates on the terms and conditions which they would have duly notified you of and made sure you acknowledged it before you can continue to work with them. That's how it is supposed to be.

You are right here, I have to agree that the cost of a paid VPN subscription is small compared to the money that players spend on their gambling.
 But when buying a subscription to a VPN, a player still won’t be sure that this will guarantee him a comfortable and trouble-free game in the future in a particular casino that is loyal to using a VPN.  The player still has the feeling that he is doing something not entirely legal or not quite correctly when he hides his location on the Internet.  By analogy, the casino also has a reasonable question about why the player hides his location.  All this creates a certain tension in the game.  And this is exactly what needs to be dealt with.  Specifically, so that the use of a VPN in a casino would be absolutely legal and comfortable and safe for any player.  But legislators are so far away from the adoption of such laws that there is nothing to talk about yet.  They don't even think about such regulation of the gambling industry.

The reasonable option would be to avoid the casinos that block VPNs and their IPs and look for alternatives if he still wants to play games. It is not like they force the players to choose their platform, as annoying as that can be. A dedicated IP VPN is usually not that expensive compared to the cost that you spend to play games, depending on each individual of course. So if you have no other options, then you can only take the risks. Hoping casinos change their ToS which will affect their capability to tackle account abuse is a bit cope imo.

This is a clear and obvious problem with using a VPN for casino gambling. 
However, if you take the player’s side, what can he do, for example, if without a VPN it is generally impossible to even access the casino website.  The player is forced to use this option and often simply de-controls which IP.  happens when using a VPN.  And in many cases, the player does not have access to paid services or it is too expensive for him to pay for this service.  So it turns out that the casino has reason to suspect that there are abuses when many players play from the same IP.  But of course, the casino knows what this address is and can begin to counteract such a player, for example, creating difficulties when withdrawing winnings to the client’s wallet. 
Of course, all this has to be taken into account when you use free services.

             -   Most casinos today do not allow their users to use VPNs for gambling. Or else the users may be banned by the casino due to the breach of the gambling TOS, as far as I know.

Now I don't know why you want to do that; doesn't it seem better for a casino to operate in the conventional gambling industry? Because if that's the only reason you have,
 it seems like I'm losing my mind, to be honest.

AFAIK, most of the crypto casinos doesn't restrict its users from accessing their sites via VPN network for privacy reasons but the main problem is with using free VPN that often uses set of IPs that will contradict with one account per person mentioned in their TOS and will lead to further issues like account suspension/termination.


Usually high priority withdrawals will be processed in next batch of withdrawals which can be in very few minutes up to 2 hours and in unusual occurrences it may take longer.

Instant withdrawal is different and its only available of few sites and if they actually mentioned instant withdrawal then it will be processed instantly.

The column I the tos of casinos that states that, casino have the right to change anypart of the terms and conditions without any notice to the player is a sign that their have 100% control to do whatever they want as long as the tos is consign and as a matter of fact some of them don't even care to check as how unfair such conditions are and tend to misused it to punish the gambler regardless of how much evidence he have presented or what his case is, this is the reason why we see some few call out of casinos by player who feels they right have been denied.

If they do that for sure that those casino did that change  their terms will be the subject of heavy discrimination from those people who knows their cheating done and they might lose a lot of current players if many people will say something negative about them. The long time earning good trust score became worthless as they exchange it to one time deceiving of those people who they want to take advantage with. We see this happened on some casino and after they did these actions their casino fail and the number of players and visitors is declining that's the reason why they totally fall and never regain back their reputation also loss those huge profit they supposed to get from gamblers spending some amount on their casino. But we really need proof on this claims so that people will find those accusation legit and they can make a decision either to stay or get out on those casino.

There are websites that let you check whether your IP is blacklisted or not but when you buy a dedicated IP from a "trustworthy" provider, I would say that it won't be blacklisted 99% on every website you check and I don't think casinos partner with VPNs to get the data about all the IPs they have to have a custom blacklist (and no VPN should be doing that either).
There are some VPN friendly casinos but you still need dedicated IP on them to not be flagged as a system abuser. They might tolerate it on regular VPN since they know that IPs are shared on regular VPNs but who wants additional problems.

By the way, can you name which VPN provider were you using?

Reputable casinos will not do it (change/edit) the terms/policies just to do something against players. Having evidence like what is suggested by 3kpk3 is good, at least you can use it to prove when the casino change the terms to be something against what is said by the customer services. Especially if the terms is stated in the terms page, having a screenshot of the terms or making an archive page for the terms page is a good evidence. Although bad casinos will always try to defend themselves but at least once there is an issue, you can use the evidence to support your argument.

What the heck are you talking about? It doesn't matter how many times they change their TOS if you have hard evidence against them and this logic applies to literally any problem in this world.

Only sites that don't care about their reputation wouldn't be fazed by hard evidence in any form basically.

Im saying the same thing on why you will really be using up a VPN which isnt allowed? You are really that finding problems towards your self and this is something that you do have those kind of considerations.

Just for the sake of answering OP question on which VPN is best then im using up NordVPN ( https://nordvpn.com/ )
You could also make use of other browsers on which offering some VPN service like opera browser. I have tested out this one in the past and it does work.
I cant just that know if this one could really be able to gover up our IP or would be able to mask it out completely.

Although im not so sure if they would be allowing VPN usage but i have seen some of my friends that its still alright and not yet banned after a long time
on making these services or VPN on which they do able to play without any problems so far. Just on what you had said that once you get caught
then say good bye into your account which its likely to be locked.