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Topic: Sherbet.com 1206$ SCAM (stolen deposit) (Read 584 times)
As before, I am reposting the images from the OP in order for us all to see any case he puts forward in the form of screenshots of communication between himself and sherbet.com.
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Hi, diggad,
Our sportsbook provider (Betby) contacted us on the 21st of March, alerting us to the fact that your account was conducting fraudulent bets on our sportsbook. After confirming with them via Skype, we were told you have been placing value bets + betting on low-cat events, and your account had been flagged elsewhere too. Please see the screenshot below:
https://i.imgur.com/77SzR8f.png
We conducted a review of your account and found you had profited hundreds of dollars from these bets, which is why your account was initially suspended. We have provided you with the ability to dispute this review and share your own evidence via the email provided on Intercom, which you have not done. As per the terms and conditions you agreed to upon registering on Sherbet, we maintain the ability to suspend accounts that are in breach of our terms. We believe you were well aware of the fact you were unfairly taking advantage of our sportsbook, and our provider is 100% confident in their decision to flag your account.
Sherbet is a new casino, and we operate under strict regulations and terms which we uphold to our highest ability. We don't tolerate sportsbook abuse, nor do we tolerate any breaches of our terms. As explained above (and on Intercom), you are more than welcome to send us an email containing evidence from your account, and we can review this with our provider to ensure the correct decision was made.
Our sportsbook provider (Betby) contacted us on the 21st of March, alerting us to the fact that your account was conducting fraudulent bets on our sportsbook. After confirming with them via Skype, we were told you have been placing value bets + betting on low-cat events, and your account had been flagged elsewhere too. Please see the screenshot below:
https://i.imgur.com/77SzR8f.png
We conducted a review of your account and found you had profited hundreds of dollars from these bets, which is why your account was initially suspended. We have provided you with the ability to dispute this review and share your own evidence via the email provided on Intercom, which you have not done. As per the terms and conditions you agreed to upon registering on Sherbet, we maintain the ability to suspend accounts that are in breach of our terms. We believe you were well aware of the fact you were unfairly taking advantage of our sportsbook, and our provider is 100% confident in their decision to flag your account.
Sherbet is a new casino, and we operate under strict regulations and terms which we uphold to our highest ability. We don't tolerate sportsbook abuse, nor do we tolerate any breaches of our terms. As explained above (and on Intercom), you are more than welcome to send us an email containing evidence from your account, and we can review this with our provider to ensure the correct decision was made.
oh really? thats all the communication i had via email actually https://imgur.com/a/h058K2R tldr i got ghosted there.
and what thousands is there being told about when i had 600$ profit out of the bets and i havent even received my deposit back?
I find it simply amazing that most of the scam accusations against casinos are by newbie accounts. I'm not saying all of them a liars but i'll bet more then half are full of shit. They open an accusation knowing full well they're cheating a casino is some way, shape, or form.
With that being said, OP you should probably send a PM to the casino rep on here so they can see your post. You may not be 1 of the shady users I just mentioned, just looks funny that almost all accusations are from newbies.
I am surprised to see this type of accusation too that almost all the accusations for the casino (gambling sites) come from a newbie. I am very eager to know how they came to know about the forum after being scammed and why they have not checked before being scammed. Also, if they have an old account (alt account) on the forum then why they are using this type of old account?With that being said, OP you should probably send a PM to the casino rep on here so they can see your post. You may not be 1 of the shady users I just mentioned, just looks funny that almost all accusations are from newbies.
There are many who use alts for good reasons since the forum rules are not against it. While some use it because they do not want to link their accounts to suspicious activities.
After the reply from Sherbet it doesn't make sense that he ignores it.
Why do I think he is a scammer?
Because he was satisfied with withdrawing after the site representative published his position, in which he accused him of trying to abuse the platform system. I don't think he would have done that if he had something to really defend his position.
Why do I think he has another account on the forum?
Because as soon as he wanted to file a complaint, he came to the forum. And as long as he does not return to answer, he is certainly following this discussion from another account. I think there are many others who share the same belief.
It is precisely the reason why so many scam accusations from newbies are looked at (wrongly in my opinion) with a hint of suspicion but if they make their case and present evidence along with logical debate they will be supported by forum members.
In this case, several members who have followed this thread (including you and I) have noticed the OP did not respond when playsherbet accused him of fraudulent conduct. The possibility was made earlier that the OP could have another account in the forum which he did not want compromised or known about but regardless of that he should have countered the allegation against him and if he failed to do so he should lock the thread.
In this case, several members who have followed this thread (including you and I) have noticed the OP did not respond when playsherbet accused him of fraudulent conduct. The possibility was made earlier that the OP could have another account in the forum which he did not want compromised or known about but regardless of that he should have countered the allegation against him and if he failed to do so he should lock the thread.
The sherbet.com forum representative replied alleging fraud took place but after reading that response the OP did not post a direct reply to playsherbet therefore the question arises why the OP would bother creating an account in the forum for the sake of this thread if cannot be bothered to defend himself against accusations he behaved fraudulently.
That is the main reason to posting from a newbie account while the op has a good rank account on the forum (I think). Op is trying to do something wrong according to the representative of the forum. And it is clear while we see that op is not following the answer of the site representative.
The sherbet.com forum representative replied alleging fraud took place but after reading that response the OP did not post a direct reply to playsherbet therefore the question arises why the OP would bother creating an account in the forum for the sake of this thread if cannot be bothered to defend himself against accusations he behaved fraudulently.
That is the main reason to posting from a newbie account while the op has a good rank account on the forum (I think). Op is trying to do something wrong according to the representative of the forum. And it is clear while we see that op is not following the answer of the site representative.
I recall a time in the 1xbit scam accusation threads when newbie upon newbie was simply creating accounts to file accusations against them. I am very much against some of the tactics employed by 1xbit to seize customer funds but I refused to take many of the newbie accusations at face value. I asked them to post screenshots and blockchain transaction ids to at least back up their claim but many never did.
I am not sure why the OP here would create a scam accusation if he did not want to the alleged scammers to respond. The sherbet.com forum representative replied alleging fraud took place but after reading that response the OP did not post a direct reply to playsherbet therefore the question arises why the OP would bother creating an account in the forum for the sake of this thread if cannot be bothered to defend himself against accusations he behaved fraudulently.
The reason I have not given a view either way on the scam allegation is because I have read what the OP and sherbet.com have said but the OP should respond to the allegation he cheated and should either accept he did or he should counter that view and defend his position and stick to his claim of being cheated out of $1206. After reading the conversation between the two it will be easier to come to a conclusion.
I am not sure why the OP here would create a scam accusation if he did not want to the alleged scammers to respond. The sherbet.com forum representative replied alleging fraud took place but after reading that response the OP did not post a direct reply to playsherbet therefore the question arises why the OP would bother creating an account in the forum for the sake of this thread if cannot be bothered to defend himself against accusations he behaved fraudulently.
The reason I have not given a view either way on the scam allegation is because I have read what the OP and sherbet.com have said but the OP should respond to the allegation he cheated and should either accept he did or he should counter that view and defend his position and stick to his claim of being cheated out of $1206. After reading the conversation between the two it will be easier to come to a conclusion.
Kinda makes ya think the guy was just a scammer trying to pressure the casino into a payment huh?
Value bets does not equal fraudulent activity
I have to agree with this especially if the odds provider can't prove the customer has been doing it intentionally (which doesn't seem to be the case here, btw).It's more of the odds provider's fault than the gambler's fault. Any gambler will try to take advantage of offered wrong bets.
Imo, the best course of action in this case is either to limit the gambler's account or let him withdraw his winnings and tell him that he is no longer welcome to play on their casino. As I said, it's just my opinion.
I also often thought about this and put it down to the fact that a victim (or alleged victim) was searching online for a way to try to get their funds back or at least to try to warn others about the website they claim scammed them. It would not be surprising if they found the scam allegations board in the forum but the sheer number of newbies claiming to be scammed is somewhat staggering.
I do want to point out that I'm not saying because it's a newbie account that we shouldn't look at the evidence being laid out before us, but it's crazy that so many accusations are from newbies. Some of them surely are using the alt to protect their main account, I get that I suppose, but there's no reason to IMO.I find it simply amazing that most of the scam accusations against casinos are by newbie accounts. I'm not saying all of them a liars but i'll bet more then half are full of shit. They open an accusation knowing full well they're cheating a casino is some way, shape, or form.
With that being said, OP you should probably send a PM to the casino rep on here so they can see your post. You may not be 1 of the shady users I just mentioned, just looks funny that almost all accusations are from newbies.
I am surprised to see this type of accusation too that almost all the accusations for the casino (gambling sites) come from a newbie. I am very eager to know how they came to know about the forum after being scammed and why they have not checked before being scammed. Also, if they have an old account (alt account) on the forum then why they are using this type of old account?With that being said, OP you should probably send a PM to the casino rep on here so they can see your post. You may not be 1 of the shady users I just mentioned, just looks funny that almost all accusations are from newbies.
I find it simply amazing that most of the scam accusations against casinos are by newbie accounts. I'm not saying all of them a liars but i'll bet more then half are full of shit. They open an accusation knowing full well they're cheating a casino is some way, shape, or form.
With that being said, OP you should probably send a PM to the casino rep on here so they can see your post. You may not be 1 of the shady users I just mentioned, just looks funny that almost all accusations are from newbies.
I am surprised to see this type of accusation too that almost all the accusations for the casino (gambling sites) come from a newbie. I am very eager to know how they came to know about the forum after being scammed and why they have not checked before being scammed. Also, if they have an old account (alt account) on the forum then why they are using this type of old account?With that being said, OP you should probably send a PM to the casino rep on here so they can see your post. You may not be 1 of the shady users I just mentioned, just looks funny that almost all accusations are from newbies.
There are many who use alts for good reasons since the forum rules are not against it. While some use it because they do not want to link their accounts to suspicious activities.
After the reply from Sherbet it doesn't make sense that he ignores it.
I also often thought about this and put it down to the fact that a victim (or alleged victim) was searching online for a way to try to get their funds back or at least to try to warn others about the website they claim scammed them. It would not be surprising if they found the scam allegations board in the forum but the sheer number of newbies claiming to be scammed is somewhat staggering.
I find it simply amazing that most of the scam accusations against casinos are by newbie accounts. I'm not saying all of them a liars but i'll bet more then half are full of shit. They open an accusation knowing full well they're cheating a casino is some way, shape, or form.
With that being said, OP you should probably send a PM to the casino rep on here so they can see your post. You may not be 1 of the shady users I just mentioned, just looks funny that almost all accusations are from newbies.
I am surprised to see this type of accusation too that almost all the accusations for the casino (gambling sites) come from a newbie. I am very eager to know how they came to know about the forum after being scammed and why they have not checked before being scammed. Also, if they have an old account (alt account) on the forum then why they are using this type of old account?With that being said, OP you should probably send a PM to the casino rep on here so they can see your post. You may not be 1 of the shady users I just mentioned, just looks funny that almost all accusations are from newbies.
I find it simply amazing that most of the scam accusations against casinos are by newbie accounts. I'm not saying all of them a liars but i'll bet more then half are full of shit. They open an accusation knowing full well they're cheating a casino is some way, shape, or form.
With that being said, OP you should probably send a PM to the casino rep on here so they can see your post. You may not be 1 of the shady users I just mentioned, just looks funny that almost all accusations are from newbies.
I am surprised to see this type of accusation too that almost all the accusations for the casino (gambling sites) come from a newbie. I am very eager to know how they came to know about the forum after being scammed and why they have not checked before being scammed. Also, if they have an old account (alt account) on the forum then why they are using this type of old account?With that being said, OP you should probably send a PM to the casino rep on here so they can see your post. You may not be 1 of the shady users I just mentioned, just looks funny that almost all accusations are from newbies.
There are many who use alts for good reasons since the forum rules are not against it. While some use it because they do not want to link their accounts to suspicious activities.
After the reply from Sherbet it doesn't make sense that he ignores it.
I find it simply amazing that most of the scam accusations against casinos are by newbie accounts. I'm not saying all of them a liars but i'll bet more then half are full of shit. They open an accusation knowing full well they're cheating a casino is some way, shape, or form.
With that being said, OP you should probably send a PM to the casino rep on here so they can see your post. You may not be 1 of the shady users I just mentioned, just looks funny that almost all accusations are from newbies.
I am surprised to see this type of accusation too that almost all the accusations for the casino (gambling sites) come from a newbie. I am very eager to know how they came to know about the forum after being scammed and why they have not checked before being scammed. Also, if they have an old account (alt account) on the forum then why they are using this type of old account? With that being said, OP you should probably send a PM to the casino rep on here so they can see your post. You may not be 1 of the shady users I just mentioned, just looks funny that almost all accusations are from newbies.
Legally defined legitimate reasons include refusing to allow a minor, someone who has self-excluded or an excessive bettor to gamble.
These are the reasons for which an account can be closed. If there is an argument for closing - low league value bets, the regulator must fine them and, in the second case, revoke the license-
so are court decisions.
These are the reasons for which an account can be closed. If there is an argument for closing - low league value bets, the regulator must fine them and, in the second case, revoke the license-
so are court decisions.
I am not claiming the OP is correct in their conduct or claim and at the same time I am not claiming sherbet.com are correct in their conduct or counterclaim.
I would like to read what the OP has to say in response to the post made by playsherbet where they claimed the OP conducted in fraudulent activity. After reading that elusive post I will be able to comment further but others are welcome to come to their own views and conclusions as and when they are ready.
What I stated in my previous post and reiterate here is this: If the OP is avoiding responding directly to posts by sherbet.com he should lock the thread and move on, unless he can present evidence to challenge the version of events given by playsherbet
You and another member seem to have taken over spokesperson roles for the OP. The OP meanwhile continues to avoid replying directly to the sherbet.com forum representative.
If anything, Sherbet's response confirms they are a scam bookie. They simply said the player placed value bets on low-tier events, what makes you think that's valid grounds to confiscate winnings? Would love to hear your reasoning
I would like to read what the OP has to say in response to the post made by playsherbet where they claimed the OP conducted in fraudulent activity. After reading that elusive post I will be able to comment further but others are welcome to come to their own views and conclusions as and when they are ready.
What I stated in my previous post and reiterate here is this: If the OP is avoiding responding directly to posts by sherbet.com he should lock the thread and move on, unless he can present evidence to challenge the version of events given by playsherbet
You and another member seem to have taken over spokesperson roles for the OP. The OP meanwhile continues to avoid replying directly to the sherbet.com forum representative.
The OP made a scam allegation against sherbet.com. He has not responded directly to the post made by the sherbet.com representative where they justified grounds for taking action against him and according to them the OP did not use the opportunity to dispute the decision via their website live chat to present evidence to prove them wrong.
If the OP is avoiding responding directly to posts by sherbet.com he should lock the thread and move on, unless he can present evidence to challenge the version of events given by playsherbet
If the OP is avoiding responding directly to posts by sherbet.com he should lock the thread and move on, unless he can present evidence to challenge the version of events given by playsherbet
If anything, Sherbet's response confirms they are a scam bookie. They simply said the player placed value bets on low-tier events, what makes you think that's valid grounds to confiscate winnings? Would love to hear your reasoning
The OP made a scam allegation against sherbet.com. He has not responded directly to the post made by the sherbet.com representative where they justified grounds for taking action against him and according to them the OP did not use the opportunity to dispute the decision via their website live chat to present evidence to prove them wrong.
If the OP is avoiding responding directly to posts by sherbet.com he should lock the thread and move on, unless he can present evidence to challenge the version of events given by playsherbet
If the OP is avoiding responding directly to posts by sherbet.com he should lock the thread and move on, unless he can present evidence to challenge the version of events given by playsherbet
If anything, Sherbet's response confirms they are a scam bookie. They simply said the player placed value bets on low-tier events, what makes you think that's valid grounds to confiscate winnings? Would love to hear your reasoning
I see a lot of complaints here in the Scam Accusations section about casinos, the main reason is that most players register with the casino, make a deposit and start playing before reading the conditions.
The terms are often in the interest of the casino and give them broad rights to ban the player or freeze their account for any reason (even if there is a mere suspicion that the player is cheating), but in the first place the player has already agreed to these terms so they have no right to object.
Cases like this are hard to judge because each side thinks they are right, anyway OP now has a chance to prove his point against Sherbet's words.
The terms are often in the interest of the casino and give them broad rights to ban the player or freeze their account for any reason (even if there is a mere suspicion that the player is cheating), but in the first place the player has already agreed to these terms so they have no right to object.
Cases like this are hard to judge because each side thinks they are right, anyway OP now has a chance to prove his point against Sherbet's words.
The OP made a scam allegation against sherbet.com. He has not responded directly to the post made by the sherbet.com representative where they justified grounds for taking action against him and according to them the OP did not use the opportunity to dispute the decision via their website live chat to present evidence to prove them wrong.
If the OP is avoiding responding directly to posts by sherbet.com he should lock the thread and move on, unless he can present evidence to challenge the version of events given by playsherbet
If the OP is avoiding responding directly to posts by sherbet.com he should lock the thread and move on, unless he can present evidence to challenge the version of events given by playsherbet
I've asked this on one of these threads and according to a representative of one casino, they couldn't give us any details because this could undermine their operation and make it easier for scammers. Imagine that! They won't even say how many accounts a person accused of multi accounting had because it's sensitive information.
But today, they just did provide some information that helps us somehow understand what OP might have done. This is the kind of information we would love to see. They could hide most of the details about how they netted the alleged fraudster, but at least we need to understand both versions of the story for the different sides so that it's easier to tell who isn't fair.The information they shared today at least gives more sense to the story.
What is response to the post made by the sherbet.com forum representative where they claimed the sportsbook company definitely stated you were involved in fraudulent activity?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61977685
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61977685
This is what's wrong and is one of the biggest problems in crypto-betting. Find value, place bets and win = Fraud.
Value bets does not equal fraudulent activity
To loosely quote someone explained value betting once to me, "yes, value bets are not illegal as in you'll be jailed for it, but it's heavily frowned upon by sportbetting platforms". I think it's one of the common knowledge amongst sportbettors.
This is where I don't like how some of these casinos operate, especially in matters regarding communicating to a customer in matters regarding their account closure. Most of them never always give a proper reason why the account was banned/locked.
What is so hard with the saying "Hey Player X, we have banned your account because we discovered that you were involved in fraudulent activity A, B and C. On this day you did this and that, on the next day you did more manipulation" etc
Someone will obviously complain if they don't know why they were banned.
What is so hard with the saying "Hey Player X, we have banned your account because we discovered that you were involved in fraudulent activity A, B and C. On this day you did this and that, on the next day you did more manipulation" etc
Someone will obviously complain if they don't know why they were banned.
I've asked this on one of these threads and according to a representative of one casino, they couldn't give us any details because this could undermine their operation and make it easier for scammers. Imagine that! They won't even say how many accounts a person accused of multi accounting had because it's sensitive information.
I find it simply amazing that most of the scam accusations against casinos are by newbie accounts. I'm not saying all of them a liars but i'll bet more then half are full of shit. They open an accusation knowing full well they're cheating a casino is some way, shape, or form.
With that being said, OP you should probably send a PM to the casino rep on here so they can see your post. You may not be 1 of the shady users I just mentioned, just looks funny that almost all accusations are from newbies.
With that being said, OP you should probably send a PM to the casino rep on here so they can see your post. You may not be 1 of the shady users I just mentioned, just looks funny that almost all accusations are from newbies.
I feel like at least some of them deposit money to a crypto casino, get their account blocked/suspended and they google "xxx scam" like in this case it would be "sherbet scam" and one of the links to come up is bitcointalk scam accusation board, so they make an account and write a complaint. It's pretty understandable for people writing these posts to be newbies on bitcointalk.
Of course a lot of them will be scammers themselves, but we're here to help them get some recognition and at the very least an explanation of what was it that got them banned.
So, let's be transparent here, OP. The casino claims you've been withdrawing hundreds of USD before that one bet that was denied, yet you've posted that you've deposited $600 and were denied $1200.
What's the truth here? Did you post the screenshots this way to make it look like you were at a loss and make us defend you? Why did you lie about not being given any explanation by the casino?
What is response to the post made by the sherbet.com forum representative where they claimed the sportsbook company definitely stated you were involved in fraudulent activity?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61977685
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61977685
This is what's wrong and is one of the biggest problems in crypto-betting. Find value, place bets and win = Fraud.
Value bets does not equal fraudulent activity
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