Topic: Shorena - To -ve reped and removed from default trust (Read 1760 times)

Mabye invite me some time?


Id like to ad that I will change the ratings to neutral even though payment has received as long as the signature is removed. I changed other ratings as well, it makes no sense to insist that it stays here. Should not make a difference to you personally as you have me excluded anyway, but it might to OP and others.

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node.jps PMed me to look at this thread.

I believe you should stop promoting a ponzi in your signature.  Shorena is well within his rights to leave you negative trust.

I also haven't seen Shorena at any of the god parties.

Rating doesn't depend on 'how obvious it is that it is a ponzi'  , you (now/at the moment) are promoting a ponzi so you deserve a negative trust.



Double Your Money In Just A Few Days, lol !

oh, why didnt you guys make this clear from the begining, rating depends on how obvious it is that it is a ponzi

Unlike the other case it's clear without any reasonable doubt that doubling site is a scam site. If you are willing to promote that site for money knowing people will lose theirs then I think you would be willing to do other untrustworthy things in the future.

Therefore yes I think you pose a thread to the community. Your negative trust will function as a warning so other people are extra cautious if dealing with you. That lowers that threat.

But now who is promoting a well know ponzi/scam site?

but i pose some kind of threat? noted
he only left after he got signature payment and the campaign ended

It must be clear here that we're not judging (if you want to use that word) that dice site but shorena's actions. For him to deserve negative trust it must be clear that site was an obvious scam without a considerable doubt.
There was an accusation and several people thought it was a scam but it seems several other people honestly thought they were just having problems with an employee and with the system.
The site was fishy and I would have refrained from promoting it but there wasn't enough evidence (or at least I can't find if) that it was a scam without doubt. Therefore I don't consider negative trust is deserved.
I was considering neutral feedback but because shorena has helped a lot to the community and has been fighting scammers I don't think any warning is required at all. I strongly don't think he represents a threat of any kind (if anything, the contrary).

Regarding "being afraid of DT users": that doesn't make any sense. If shorena, I or any other DT user is found to scam or do anything else clearly untrustworthy then that user will receive negative trust and will be removed from DT. Therefore their retaliation negative trust (if any) would be meaningless and therefore it wouldn't make sense to be afraid of such an user.

Pretty much this. I am happy to remove any negative trust I place when an issue is resolved - in this case when a person is no longer actively promoting a scam.

You are still promoting a ponzi/scam site , shorena ... no he is not promoting a scam. I think this is the simple difference between you and him.

I dont understand the reasoning here,

• I get negative trust for promoting what you guys consider a ponzi
• Shorena advertises a scam
• he does get negative rep

+1 for favouritism, there is more than enough evidence here against shorena, who has doublebot scammed?
I guess people here are afraid of people on DT

I know the post, whats your point?

That this[1] is the first post that should not taken into consideration by EcuaMobi and that it must be evident that dicebitco.in was a scam before it?

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9040795

do you remember now?

It was the day of the payout, the month was over. I dont know the exact time.


Here is the full list of participants btw -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/full-dicebitcoin-signature-campaign-continued-again-778953

ACCTseller was not enrolled in that signature campaign.

There is no reason to involve me in this. Thanks.

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It is pretty clear that you are an alt of a scammer who has been around longer then your account's age would imply. You are creating the same kind of drama that the scammer/thief James Volpe of Melbourne, Australia liked to create with Quickseller

lol i see why quickseller is defending shorena, his alt was also involved
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9033498

#2 For congratulating me on my first drama thread. Im not very fond of it though.

#6 I think you missed the point. The point is I am not everywhere, nor do I try to be. Im out of cloud mining since hashie.

#7 wrong what? I have the feeling you dont want me to take you seriously.

#8 It was meant as an example that I am not perfect. I am not entirely sure I would make the same decision I did with dicebitco.in again. Should have could have is however not something I want to have a part in. I made my decision and if it turns out that I now deserve a negative rating for it, so be it.

@EcuaMobi:

This[1] is the thread Stunna openend when the skipped nonces happened. It includes a link[2] to the dicebitco.in main thread when the first people notices some "bug". I can give you some highlighty, but its probably better if you read up on your own after that. I dont want to influence your decision by cherry picking quotes. IIRC the campaign was run by the same two people running the casino. I joined september[3]. Mitchell and dooglus as escrow took over the campaign[4]. As you can see from the posts by the escrows it was not clear whether it was a scam or not. After some arguments have been passed Mitchell decided to pay out a large portion and let doog handle the rest[5]. Eventually the owners paid out on 1st Oct. The same day there was another claim that they are scamming as doog confirms here[6]. Whether or not I was still wearing the signature at that time I dont know.

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dicebitcoin-investment-dice-scam-774120
[2] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8715769
[3] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-fulldicebitcoin-make-the-most-out-of-your-sig-september-2014-758854
[4] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/full-dicebitcoin-signature-campaign-continued-776227
[5] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/full-dicebitcoin-signature-campaign-continued-again-778953
[6] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9057104

Well the board admins gave him the power, and we all just have to deal with that--it's one of the rules around here.  It's not your board, it's not mine.  And I think promoting a ponzi in a sig campaign is a poopy thing to do as well.  Life is full of double standards (if indeed it is a double standard, but it might not be), but what are you looking for here?  Sympathy?