Hi,
In my opinion trading accounts on btctalk must be forbidden. There is no more newbie prison so there is no reason to trade your account. It is for sure a head start for the scammers. If some one is offering his account or buying accounts a moderator must ban him forever.
BR
Topic: Should bitcointalk account trading be banned? - page 2. (Read 3008 times)
My own opinion is yes, It should be banned, But there is no real way to enforce this, And any account does have digital rights to the owner, They are free to trade it if so desired.
Why I say yes? Purely due to the nature of what the account represents, Its not a character in a game, This is your account of your thoughts, Getting to know people and maybe some trading between people, Selling your account is not just a leap for new people to come in at a represented level, It is easier for the new person to "assume" you! and if it goes wrong, the person selling the account would have to prove it was not them, It just gets messy from there.
Why I say yes? Purely due to the nature of what the account represents, Its not a character in a game, This is your account of your thoughts, Getting to know people and maybe some trading between people, Selling your account is not just a leap for new people to come in at a represented level, It is easier for the new person to "assume" you! and if it goes wrong, the person selling the account would have to prove it was not them, It just gets messy from there.
Since you can't stop people selling accounts, it would be better to focus on informing the newbs that they shouldn't trust anyone based on age of account, rank or trust rating.
I agree with that.
People can trade their accounts off the site (on FB, Twitter, other sites, etc.), and there is really no way to stop account trading.
It is IMO better to expose the risk rather than to hide it.
I use to moderate a digital currency/trading forum through 07-10 and creditable accounts were hacked or sold and i've only seen them used fraudulently. I'm surprised it is currently allowed and this is the only forum I've ever registered to that does allow it.
Since you can't stop people selling accounts, it would be better to focus on informing the newbs that they shouldn't trust anyone based on age of account, rank or trust rating.
I think there should be official channels so that we are able to see when an account changes ownership if bitcointalk is going to allow account trading.
Barring that I'd vote for banning account trading.
Barring that I'd vote for banning account trading.
Pretty close vote. I'm surprised, seems a pretty even-sided debate here. I can definitely understand why it can't be effectively enforced. One of those situations where a "ban" wouldn't really do anything.
I think people who voted "NO" are trying to sell their accounts
Heh... well let see what the future votes will bring to us. And I hope selling accounts on this forum will be not legal thing to do one day.
Or buy some. Its a very difficult issues to track and ban as users can simply say they changed IPs when they sell their accounts.
I don't think there is a way to stop account trading, it is difficult to track the owners.
i think that is the key here.
There's people that sells accounts with positive trust, scammers would want to buy them to scam money. People would trust those who have a higher rank, older account age and trust. Selling those accounts can result in higher scam rates. I don't think there is a way to stop account trading, it is difficult to track the owners.
Pretty close vote. I'm surprised, seems a pretty even-sided debate here. I can definitely understand why it can't be effectively enforced. One of those situations where a "ban" wouldn't really do anything.
You can't really go based on the polls. Even though Theymos changed them, people can still use accounts with a rank higher than Jr. and vote more with different accounts.
Pretty close vote. I'm surprised, seems a pretty even-sided debate here. I can definitely understand why it can't be effectively enforced. One of those situations where a "ban" wouldn't really do anything.
I think people who voted "NO" are trying to sell their accounts
Heh... well let see what the future votes will bring to us. And I hope selling accounts on this forum will be not legal thing to do one day.
Pretty close vote. I'm surprised, seems a pretty even-sided debate here. I can definitely understand why it can't be effectively enforced. One of those situations where a "ban" wouldn't really do anything.
Okay so even if the majority that have voted think that they should be banned we have no way to enforce it. I guess once more it means that it is all about users educating themselves and employing common sense when it comes to trading - which should be the case irrespective of selling accounts.
That's just how it's *always* been on bitcointalk. There are always scammers abound here. In a place where scammers used to just get a "scammer" tag instead of being banned (and now we just have the trust system), that should come as no surprise. I'm also not at all surprised that people sell accounts, given these signature campaigns.
Agreeing. Sketchy things have always been going on on BitcoinTalk, but in the more recent years, only legal sketchy things. Even if the accounts are banned - they could just use TOR or a VPN, and sell them through other sites or via P.M.
Okay so even if the majority that have voted think that they should be banned we have no way to enforce it. I guess once more it means that it is all about users educating themselves and employing common sense when it comes to trading - which should be the case irrespective of selling accounts.
That's just how it's *always* been on bitcointalk. There are always scammers abound here. In a place where scammers used to just get a "scammer" tag instead of being banned (and now we just have the trust system), that should come as no surprise. I'm also not at all surprised that people sell accounts, given these signature campaigns.
Okay so even if the majority that have voted think that they should be banned we have no way to enforce it. I guess once more it means that it is all about users educating themselves and employing common sense when it comes to trading - which should be the case irrespective of selling accounts.
Seems it's a pretty close vote right now. 56.7% support a ban and 43.3% do not support one. Even if most support a ban, I simply don't understand how it could be reasonably enforced. Enforcement against scammers themselves has always been lax on this forum, so it would seem quite strange to prohibit a market that simply has potential for scamming.
My feeling is that this is mostly an outgrowth of the signature campaigns, with them being fairly lucrative. It's a bit shady, but I think accounts sold are most likely to be used for this (somewhat) legitimate purpose -- as opposed to scamming.
Of course, allowing it makes selling accounts much easier. Selling them outside the forum would limit the number of accounts sold.
But in doubt the rule should be freedom, not prohibition.
But in doubt the rule should be freedom, not prohibition.
Most of the bought account are used in signature offers and like IMO, also if it's banned officially people would buy/sell them on reddit or any place bitcoin related.
I dislike it, but even if you ban it, it's really not stopping somebody from having multiple accounts to scam with.
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