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hero member
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May 14, 2015, 06:24:56 PM
#88
I voted NO they should not be deleted and to be honest just asking whether they should makes me think you shouldn't be in bitcoin, who in their right mind would even consider deleting the creators coins if they could!? It is crazy talk along the lines of should the blockchain get deleted and everything else that has followed from his hard work.

Saying that I did see some fud the other week or maybe it was truth but basically fud because they won't achieve some chinese guys trying to steal his private keys. It looks like satoshi has no plans on spending the bitcoin or he would have within this time so I really don't see what the deal is it is not like he could not have dumped at the peak, he is anonymous enough afterall.
hero member
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May 14, 2015, 06:09:57 PM
#87
Lol, Bitcoin fungibility = Fail, thats why i trust Monero more

With Bitcoin you can always mix your coins, with Monero you cant know if a double spending bug happens due to the non transparent ledger.
legendary
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May 14, 2015, 04:40:31 PM
#86
I honestly think Satoshi considers doing all sorts of things with his coins, but doing nothing with them is the best option he can come up with. I bet he often considers distributing most of his coins amongst the community, but after 3 seconds looking at the main page here at bitcointalk, he thinks to himself "Why would I give my coins to these retards?" honestly, he sits there looking at his baby, watching it roll around in its own filth, and thinks "....nope..."

now, those coins can not be deleted by an external force, only the holder of the private keys can do that. If you or I or the bitcoin foundation, or Gavin, or anybody other than satoshi had the power to delete someone else's coins, bitcoin would be finished instantly and could never be saved.
legendary
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May 14, 2015, 02:29:43 PM
#85
Instead of "deleting" them, you could transfer them to a burn address if 51% of the mining power would accept a normally invalid transaction.
hero member
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May 14, 2015, 01:59:24 PM
#84
Erm, how can Satoshis coins be deleted?
If that was possible then the Gox stolen coins should be deleted too.

There shouldn't be any coin deletion, instead they should be sent to the address in my profile  Tongue
Deleting coins doesn't make sense. Thinking like this would only mean that OP has no clue how the blockchain work.
To effectively delete them, it would mean the history since the deletion of the coins would be lost, in other world complete nonsense.
sr. member
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May 14, 2015, 01:55:13 PM
#83
You are asking whether the community should take away money from someone, because "we" don't like the fact that he/she has more money than us. If this would be the norm, there would be only the developer team using Bitcoin.
hero member
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May 14, 2015, 09:43:38 AM
#82
Erm, how can Satoshis coins be deleted?
If that was possible then the Gox stolen coins should be deleted too.

There shouldn't be any coin deletion, instead they should be sent to the address in my profile  Tongue
newbie
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May 14, 2015, 09:20:47 AM
#81
No, they can not. There is no way to delete Bitcoin in Bitcoin Blockchain.
member
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April 24, 2015, 02:14:01 PM
#80
No,It's a part of a history and can be deleted. I don't If satoshi, how he will delete all bitcoins in an instance?
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April 24, 2015, 01:44:59 PM
#79
I kept looking at the OP's poll, and the only available answers were 'yes' and 'no'. 

Can we edit the poll to add a 'That's a Stupid Question' button?



Well, I agree that this is a rather stupid question, but I think it would be a wise thing to do to explain to him why it really doesn't matter whether those coins are still available or not. Also it is very important to understand why this really wouldn't hurt Bitcoin by undermining one of it's key principles.

Central banks hold 1/3 of world's gold reserve, should they destroy them? What if they dump all the gold on market and crash the gold price to cents?

Even central banks decided to dump small amount of gold, they would still do it gradually, to not affect the market price too much

If Satoshi even moved a single BTC, everyone would then know that he really still controlled his coins(!) That would potentially cause quite a panic since we couldn't be sure that he isn't dumping all his coins using the nearest exchange. Also, it might reveal his identity or at least confirm he's still active!
sr. member
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Turning money into heat since 2011.
April 24, 2015, 01:10:28 PM
#78
If you feel compelled to ask such a stupid question, you don't understand Bitcoin...
hero member
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April 24, 2015, 01:07:52 PM
#77
Lol, Bitcoin fungibility = Fail, thats why i trust Monero more
full member
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April 24, 2015, 12:57:03 PM
#76
well before ansering your question let me ask you that can you edit the codes or can you edit a satoshi coin...or anyone can?.
I won't think anyone can.so , when anyone cannot edit it so how can amyone can delete(exiclute) it
hero member
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April 24, 2015, 11:04:45 AM
#75
Sure, cause nothing says thank you for such a kick ass invention like 'fuck you'

that's fucking absurd.
Q7
sr. member
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April 24, 2015, 11:00:13 AM
#74
Before we ever thought of that, first thing first can we really identify all the coins that belong to satoshi. Having done that, we can't just ignore or delete part of the blocks that hold the coin. If we can do that, does that mean we can do the same for the rest of the coin if the need calls for? And again how is that even possible? These are things we need to consider before we engage  this discussion.
legendary
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April 24, 2015, 10:38:31 AM
#73
I think it hampers adoption...no government is going to be cool with a currency where 1 person holds 21%

again it's not 21%, he is holding at best 2M, since when 2M is 21% of 21M? it's not even 10% let alone 21...learn to do math first

anyway i do believe that satoshi's coins should be distributed among 1-2M people, 1 btc each, better if those people are not holding any btc(but it would be hard to prove...)
sr. member
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April 24, 2015, 10:31:42 AM
#72
I think it hampers adoption...no government is going to be cool with a currency where 1 person holds 21%
who holds 21%?
hero member
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April 24, 2015, 10:23:24 AM
#71
I think it hampers adoption...no government is going to be cool with a currency where 1 person holds 21%
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April 24, 2015, 09:19:50 AM
#70
Nope.  Satoshi's coins should not be deleted.

If he never touches or moves them again, they're considered lost coins.  Scarcity is a built in attribute of Bitcoin.  If somehow finally proven lost, BOOM, everyone else's coins gains in value.
legendary
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April 24, 2015, 09:12:13 AM
#69
No, but i wonder what satoshi can or will do with it. There was a statement from him that one never should delete a wallet, so most probably he hasnt too. So that leaves where will he give the coins to. If he dies and his childs get them there is a chance they will bring bitcoin down. He would never risk this.

So the only other solution would be that he now, after he made this big change, can bring the next big change. Maybe he waits for the price of those coins to rise in order to match his plans.

What i think about are that he can give power to certain groups that he thinks of are worthy to support. Libertarians, humanitarians or something like an organization that could be a worldwide, free and really democratic government. Depending on the amount of worth his bitcoins could be a real power at some point.

Thats the only solution for the coins that i see. He cant risk much there.

Of course that only valid as long as he didnt mine to a bogus address.

Saying that... does anyone believe that the NSA didnt have enough data about all his work to identify him long ago? Even when they only found out about it later, they have huge data storages. So i think its unlikely that the NSA doesnt know who he is.

So it might be that this wealth is in the wrong hands since a long time already. And i dont want to speculate what they will do with it.
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