Should security be employed in local bet shop?

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

Alternatively the shop owner should adopt the use of POS in a case of a gambler wanted to bet with huge or large sum of money, of course when visiting a local betting shop you are expected to meet all sort of people with different character and behavior in that case to be on a safer side a gambler with a hude sum of money should adopt transfer of betting fund else coming over with huge cash is at a high risk, moreso the shop owner might not have financial means to hire some security personnel, if non of those options work the best bet is to look elsewhere for another safer betting shop

Is that POS you mean related in cashier use? But they are already necessary for a formal store business. I still think they are kinda old school, so maybe there are now newer technology that is much better than it. I don't know what you mean by adopt transfer of fund? Of course when we play and withdrawing our winnings, transferring is always there. Unless you mean in a different way, like for example digitally.

But, this is also a good idea. If a betting shop is small, then yeah, securities can lack. If we are bothered with it, indeed that we should look for a more secure betting shops. I guess we can disregard some factors only for that.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

Here's the thing about local bet shops as to why there's not a lot of securities there, it's probably because the people that are playing there are patrons and most of them are situated in places that's got a low amount of crime rate that it's not really a worry for them to be raided with armed robbers because they're not a really good place to rob plus if you're transporting money to and from that bet shop, you wouldn't really attack that transport near the bet shop because it's going to raise suspicions plus the transportation of the money of these shops are pretty sneaky anyway so would be robbers are pretty much going to have a hard time casing the shops.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

Alternatively the shop owner should adopt the use of POS in a case of a gambler wanted to bet with huge or large sum of money, of course when visiting a local betting shop you are expected to meet all sort of people with different character and behavior in that case to be on a safer side a gambler with a hude sum of money should adopt transfer of betting fund else coming over with huge cash is at a high risk, moreso the shop owner might not have financial means to hire some security personnel, if non of those options work the best bet is to look elsewhere for another safer betting shop

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Quote from: TimeTeller on December 26, 2023, 06:57:16 PM

There are other ways to address the security in a small set-up as we have a lot of digital equipment/apps in place already.
Before, having cctv for example is big deal. But in today's situation, it is like a common gadget for every shop.
This is why there's no need to deploy heavy security in a local bet shop. Maybe just regular security guard is more than enough.

CCTV is somewhat a good way to deter any possible criminals but is a bit overrated as a security feature. It won't protect you from a mentally unstable, aggressive customer who just lost all his money and blames everyone other than himself. Also, with covid masks still being a thing, it's easy to hide your face from CCTV.
Hiring a security guy full-time is a quite high cost for a single shop, you'd need at least 2, if not 3 of them, for when one is off on holidays, or sick etc.
I'd imagine the most cost-effective solution would be using some sort of security service, where threatened shop staff could press an alarm button and a mobile security unit would show up immediately.
But if such shops operate without any special security, then maybe there's no need for such at all. I'd imagine a large portion of their customer base are older people, who do not feel comfortable with gambling online, or just want some pass time watching live events etc.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on December 27, 2023, 05:22:59 AM

If you have not seen where fights break out in a casino and police are been called to intervene you won't know how important it is for casinos to have good security installed in their gambling locations, I have seen it once and it was bloody, I don't have the information about what really went wrong because I was very young then, but there was a big fight that leads to stabbing and others.

There are many things you can avoid by staying away from offline casinos, and this doesn't mean it's the same in every country, for example Las Vegas is very safe when it comes to gambling offline, but in my country it's something entirely different.

If you want to stay out of troubles, you really need to start considering online gambling, it will keep you away from some possible troubles in located casinos.

The thing here is that local bet shops are much more restricted in what games they can host. You can buy lottery tickets at different lotteries, buy scratch cards, bet on live or virtual sports and the most interactive thing they're usually allowed to have is keno at best. These chance games have an RTP that is at best 60% (Keno) and lotteries have astronomical odds.

This is where the big money comes, but the most regular patrons are there to watch sports and bet all day, but usually with smaller amounts.
These restrictions make bet shops much less lucrative than a casino. Of course if one gets many customers it would be good to have some security. But usually they can't afford it. It highly depends on the occasion. In my country I've rarely every seen a bet shop have so many patrons at any given time that it would need security though.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

It’s the same in my country. The shop owners mostly rely on the police and local security for protection. They do not have CCTV or security men yet there is hardly any case of robbery. I think criminals know it’s not worth the risk robbing a Bet shop with customers in it, how much can you realize from such an adventure. The kind of people who go to Bet shops are not the type to mess with, if you are caught stealing, you may be beaten to death before the police arrive. It’s not worth the risk.

Though it’s common to hear stories of break ins in the night and robbers stealing tvs and computers. It’s also difficult to sell this items because they are usually marked with the casino’s name all over.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

In my opinion, in every shop that involves money in particular, it must have sufficient security guarantees, such as security or something, yes with CCTV it is also quite helpful for security, because in every shop that involves money, of course, it is prone to criminal acts, such as theft or fights. and with the development of technology today, in my opinion, not only in local betting shops but in every other shop they must have installed security that is quite high or guarantees such as what many shops have is CCTV, because with this, in my opinion, it can help see people who do actions that should not happen.
But clearly security in my opinion is quite important in our daily lives, because no one wants to find themselves losing or getting into trouble, especially with money. and in local betting shops of course they must be related to money, therefore there could be actions that should not occur, because in my opinion, everyone is sensitive to money, because with money someone can change their behavior. so I think having security in local betting shops is necessary even with security disguised as ordinary people wearing free clothes not using official security uniforms it is not a problem, as long as there is guaranteed security it is better.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

For your safety security should be your concern therefore if there's no guarantee of your security in any betting place don't go there to gamble. Out of frustration some individuals can become dangerous and if there's no security, there'll be no way to handle the problem. The local betting shops need security when they start noticing more gamblers are coming to the shop for gambling, gambling locally always brings fight between gamblers therefore security is important.

I won't bet in any shop that aren't properly guided by security, I have seen someone lose their life because of a fight in a casino he had nothing to do with. He was just watching the fight and a spray bullet got to him and he died on the spot. Instead of going to an insecure casino or betting shop, I'll stay home and make use of online casino and enjoy my game in peace not been afraid of insecurities.

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If you have not seen where fights break out in a casino and police are been called to intervene you won't know how important it is for casinos to have good security installed in their gambling locations, I have seen it once and it was bloody, I don't have the information about what really went wrong because I was very young then, but there was a big fight that leads to stabbing and others.

There are many things you can avoid by staying away from offline casinos, and this doesn't mean it's the same in every country, for example Las Vegas is very safe when it comes to gambling offline, but in my country it's something entirely different.

If you want to stay out of troubles, you really need to start considering online gambling, it will keep you away from some possible troubles in located casinos.

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Quote from: Strongkored on December 27, 2023, 02:15:14 AM

Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

There should be, not because gambling can have a bad impact, but usually, people who gamble will also drink alcoholic drinks, which can sometimes be the cause, so security is needed to ensure that the situation at the casino is well maintained and does not disturb other gamblers who are enjoying gambling, and I think it's quite strange if there is a gambling house that doesn't have security and maybe you can find out it could be that the gambling house doesn't have a permit because even though gambling is legal in your area, usually the government will require the gambling house to make a permit which will usually include what the gambling house must provide for the convenience of its users. security is also needed by the gambling house because they hold large amounts of cash which could become a target for thieves who will endanger themselves.

This big money stored in this bookmaker's office can become the target not only of thieves and robbers, but also of clients who have lost a large amount after drinking alcohol. They will want to get even or just have a fit of rage. When it comes to big money, you definitely need to think about security. Also, if the guards are in the same place, then this is a big deterrent for those who want to do something illegal. Seeing the huge security guard, many will change their minds, which in the end will be better for both.
A hired security guard does not require too much money for monthly payments, but the effect will be much greater both for the establishment itself and for the residents of the area.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

most people are not stupid enough to go on local bet shop or small casino with huge capital, that it needs security.
I am sure that on local small shops people would play with little money and a small security is everywhere where the exchange of money is, local bet shops are just small casinos.
maybe, you are seeing that casino have not security. and the area where the casino is located have drunk people or something.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

There should be security in every establishment especially where money is involved, gamblers or customers will not feel comfortable being in a place like that, I am not comfortable dealing in an establishment where there is no CCTV, because you know anything can happen within that vicinity and the CCTV or the security personnel can avoid that from happening.
Here in our country CCTV and security personnel are mandated by law if you cannot provide security you will not be given a permit to operate, better ask that local betting shops install CCTV or don't patronize them.

CCTV is the easiest way to monitor the situation around a betting shop but security personnel are also necessary for a business. So with the support of these two things, you can be sure that the betting shop will be safe and no one will make a fuss because security personnel will continue to guard the betting shop. And in that betting shop, there must be a member of security personnel guarding the shop even though we can't recognize him. As long as the shop is safe, this member of the security personnel will not reveal himself and will only monitor the betting shop. However, if an emergency requires their presence, they will immediately show themselves to secure the betting shop. The betting shop owner must have thought about that too.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

There should be, not because gambling can have a bad impact, but usually, people who gamble will also drink alcoholic drinks, which can sometimes be the cause, so security is needed to ensure that the situation at the casino is well maintained and does not disturb other gamblers who are enjoying gambling, and I think it's quite strange if there is a gambling house that doesn't have security and maybe you can find out it could be that the gambling house doesn't have a permit because even though gambling is legal in your area, usually the government will require the gambling house to make a permit which will usually include what the gambling house must provide for the convenience of its users. security is also needed by the gambling house because they hold large amounts of cash which could become a target for thieves who will endanger themselves.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

Gambling is risky and before anyone could easily spot out the main threats in these systems, we ought to know how difficult it will become for local betshops to hire Security when they know these services are not free and you know how selfish these owners can be, they wouldn't want to share their profits as they will keep everything on their own. Security are meant for the purpose of steady safety and there's absolutely nothing neutral other than these given ideas. We know how rough it is in local betshops and how these agents have suffered in the hands of stubborn customers, those set of addictive gamblers that have no common sense other than facing what they think is right and leaving the main jobs for who exactly?

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities?

It really depends what casinos you are talking about. There are many betting shops, including the clandestine houses, where there are bodyguards, cameras and even chauffeur service to take gamblers home late at night. Maybe you should look for another places where you can attend to where there are better and more qualified services offered to customers. It's indeed too risky to play at stranger places where there aren't securities and people look hostile. The chances of being followed on the streets on your way back home are considerable, so I advise you not going to that betting shop anymore.

If you don't have anywhere else to go for gambling purposes, you can still gamble online at crypto casinos at the comfort and safety of your house. Online gambling hasn't brought only accessibility and easiness, but also protection to gamblers who don't even need to display their identities to another gamblers when playing online. Maybe you are an enthusiast of land based casinos, but in your case it might be necessary to think if it really worths the risk: It's better to be safe than sorry.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

There should be security in every establishment especially where money is involved, gamblers or customers will not feel comfortable being in a place like that, I am not comfortable dealing in an establishment where there is no CCTV, because you know anything can happen within that vicinity and the CCTV or the security personnel can avoid that from happening.
Here in our country CCTV and security personnel are mandated by law if you cannot provide security you will not be given a permit to operate, better ask that local betting shops install CCTV or don't patronize them.

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No doubt, I think the same sometimes.
If other resorts such as the malls, hotels, clubs, even centres etc that is basically w resource for trades, exchange of goods and services that are all buttressed to profer incomes to the managements could have securities to moderate its environment with securities in other to maintain cordial accordance, then the physical gambling places too shouldn't be neglected.
Besides... It is most needed because it is an arena where someone has to loose for someone to win and it is accompanied with frustrations which could linger to mayhem in most cases at a disagreement circumstances.

If the physical gambling shops want to maintain a good reputation to its gambling shops/arena on a context to regulate and manage human behavioral effects which could point at some levels of disasterous resultants, then employing securities to aid and conduct such situations should be observed and brings to active actions.

I am aware of some aggressive gamblers who turns wilds at when lost and most a misconducted at when winning too so, security is absolutely relevant to be acknowledged accordingly in the physical gambling places.

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Quote from: swogerino on December 25, 2023, 08:25:26 AM

Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

In every single country in Europe it is mandatory to have a security or more than one to safeguard your business and clients from harm.Also in some eastern Europe countries I have visited I have seen the same thing,there were quite some security guards running around the big local casinos keeping track of everything going on there and stopping any fight that may arise from drunk gamblers or sore losing gamblers.I personally when I see that a local casino has not at least a security guard guaranteeing safety turn back and do not start playing there.I think many will agree that security is an utmost priority in delicate places like local gambling shops.

If he mentioned the part of the world one can understand the level of security there. In some place where CCTV are in the developed world and center of the city. Any crime is easy to uncover.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

Local bet shop is a private business that should enjoy the general security provided by the police and other security architectures. In other words, the duty of putting security in place is that of the shop owners and depend on the terrain their business is located. If the environment is not safe for their business and customers, it is required of them to hire private security. Most of the casinos I know in my area do not have additional security because it is not necessary. I believe the owners of those business will always adopt what is best for their businesses.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

The likelihood of someone showing up with a huge pile of money is rather small and doesn't justify spending money on hiring security staff. I'd imagine most of the transactions are cashless anyway.
You're probably right in terms of people losing it and getting aggressive after losing a bet. It's not uncommon to see broken windows in local bet shops, often caused by someone snapping and losing control, but even in such cases, they would not lash out at the staff and rather vent out on inanimate objects.
With online gambling, I think brick-and-mortar shops will slowly become a thing of the past, and the tendency will be to cut the running costs rather than hire more staff (i.e. security).

There are other ways to address the security in a small set-up as we have a lot of digital equipment/apps in place already.
Before, having cctv for example is big deal. But in today's situation, it is like a common gadget for every shop.
This is why there's no need to deploy heavy security in a local bet shop. Maybe just regular security guard is more than enough.

CCtv's are useless if there would be no personnel is watching it. We do know that when it comes to these places then security would really be that still relevant.
Why? They would be able to block into those people who are bringing up some potential harmful things like guns or those sharp objects or whatever that could really be able
to harm out fellow gamblers. So it would really be that still relevant if we do speak about security on which it does also give out that kind of confidence that you are really that in a safe place on the time that you do gamble.So i should say that its a must, its a little bit lacking when you dont see any security guards around on which we know that this place isnt an exemption into those
people who do become freak when they have lost that much money.

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