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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

In fact, I believe that local bookmakers are much more concerned about protecting their own money than protecting their customers. Generally, security cameras or any guards are only there to serve the establishment itself.

In any case, no person should go to or leave a physical casino with cash, nowadays it is much easier and safer to use credit cards or bank transfers.
I think that nowadays those who still use cash generally do so with the intention of laundering money, but if someone "normal" needs to do the same, I at least advise you not to go to these places alone... take a couple of friends big guys as bodyguards Tongue

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

The likelihood of someone showing up with a huge pile of money is rather small and doesn't justify spending money on hiring security staff. I'd imagine most of the transactions are cashless anyway.
You're probably right in terms of people losing it and getting aggressive after losing a bet. It's not uncommon to see broken windows in local bet shops, often caused by someone snapping and losing control, but even in such cases, they would not lash out at the staff and rather vent out on inanimate objects.
With online gambling, I think brick-and-mortar shops will slowly become a thing of the past, and the tendency will be to cut the running costs rather than hire more staff (i.e. security).

There are other ways to address the security in a small set-up as we have a lot of digital equipment/apps in place already.
Before, having cctv for example is big deal. But in today's situation, it is like a common gadget for every shop.
This is why there's no need to deploy heavy security in a local bet shop. Maybe just regular security guard is more than enough.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

The likelihood of someone showing up with a huge pile of money is rather small and doesn't justify spending money on hiring security staff. I'd imagine most of the transactions are cashless anyway.
You're probably right in terms of people losing it and getting aggressive after losing a bet. It's not uncommon to see broken windows in local bet shops, often caused by someone snapping and losing control, but even in such cases, they would not lash out at the staff and rather vent out on inanimate objects.
With online gambling, I think brick-and-mortar shops will slowly become a thing of the past, and the tendency will be to cut the running costs rather than hire more staff (i.e. security).

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I do see security in those shops in one form or another. Maybe you don’t notice them because they’re dressed in plain clothes or watching over things on a surveillance camera in a back room, but I’d be surprised if they weren’t there. I agree that these types of places could do more to keep customers safe in their parking lots though. Almost no casino cares what happens once you walk out the door.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

In some countries gambling shops is not legalized and that is why gambling shops does not care for a security the way I do see gambling shops in my country nigeria any day they think of securities through government they will be paying tax because in my country no shops of gambling that do pay a tax, so what I want you to know is that those shops doesn't come with big money because they do request for account number of anyone who wins bet and credit the person through digital mobile, so their is no need of walking around with money.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

It just doesn't make sense if you're asking me. The reason why larger casinos employ security systems/guards is because they deal not only with the locals but those who traveled from far off places to gamble in their facilities. In that regard since they don't have a profile of who those people are they need to be protected from other people, and other people needs to be protected from these guys. So they employ on the round security personnel that look into every movement and every moment within the casino.

Local bet shops who dabble with fewer than a hundred customers do not need this amenity as they are mostly only dealing with patrons and locals who they already know so much about. And if in any case they act belligerently they could just go ahead and call the police, or take matters into their own hands and control the situation using whatever method they have available cause I assure you most of these local bet shops may not have the capability to hire a security guard but they have the money to buy a gun for their protection.

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This is not a must but I think it should be done if the company finds it necessary, gambling environment is always very noisy and chaotic in nature, yea it could be center for other social visees that's why it's advisable for a gambler to register in an online site, so that if he or she wants to place a better he can online fund his account through whichever means he want and place his game safely and successfully, but on a general not if the owner of any gambler hall find out that where his business is located or the hall itself is not safe for peopatronize him, then he should consider beefing up a security their in other to secure his business and make it more attractive for customers to come, but note thatt this can also lessen the interest of bettors to come to such shop because they might not want such exposure.

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That is within their discretion. Most of these local betting shop know everyone, and they alert each other if there are people whom they do not know about that linger within the betting shop grounds. There might be regulars that cause a ruckus every now and then, but since they almost know everybody in that shop, that usually goes away -- at least based on my experience in these small bet shops. Security would be a plus, perhaps for the protection of the owners and not necessarily the bettors there. The standard casino setting that you see in huge casinos are usually not applicable here.

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It's a protocol for most business establishments including the local betting shops to have security in detail, inside and outside of their premises because they are handling money. Think of it that the small shops that have one or two cashiers and still have that security force that are protecting them inside their premises. This is a normal thing to see for these local bet shops to have also their own protection through security in detail that can be seen on the premises so that bad actors will have an idea that it's not going to be easy for them if they've got some plans to rob it.

Wherever we go right now, there is security on duty for the shops that they are designed to protect and hired to. And I think most local casinos need more of these securities to be in duty because it's a business that keeps flowing with huge people and money brought to them to enjoy. But a bad situation could become worse if there will be planned robbery and these securities are going to be part of it.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

Yes, it makes me feel anxious. I’m an adult and I’m not afraid of such psychos, but why should I suffer from them if they get it into their heads? After a big loss, they probably want to let out their anger, they may break a trash can or throw stones at windows or some other nonsense. I also fear for children who will not be able to resist such mentally unstable players. I definitely wouldn't allow children to go near that place.

It seems to me that any complaints that you want to write to the city administration will be ignored, because there will be no reason for it. These reasons will appear only after something bad happens near this place. On the other hand, such establishments will always be near residential areas because their potential clients are ordinary people.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on December 26, 2023, 04:54:55 PM

Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities?

how much do you think the casino makes a month to be able to pay the security personnels and the cashiers at the same time?? Plus other hidden expenses like repairs, fuel, rim of papers for the printers etc??.. do you really think managing a business is that easy??

I'm not also saying it's not a good idea to have securities onboard; TBH, I've seen other MEGA shops with securities, security cameras, free booking systems, relaxation bay, sick bay, free refreshments for regular gamblers etc.... It all depends on the turnovers...

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Its always never been easy or talking about generally when running up a business on which those expenses and other correlated stuffs would be there on which it would be normal that they will be considering whether they should hire one or not really that necessary. Having security doesnt necessarily means to have those securities to be employed on the vicinity but if you are an owner whose really that mindful about possibilities of chaos and other shit behaviors then it wont hurt you up on getting one though. For physical casinos then it would be just right about on having security but for online then we do know on how security works on online gambling
on which we arent not that dumb on not to know about those differences.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities?

how much do you think the casino makes a month to be able to pay the security personnels and the cashiers at the same time?? Plus other hidden expenses like repairs, fuel, rim of papers for the printers etc??.. do you really think managing a business is that easy??

I'm not also saying it's not a good idea to have securities onboard; TBH, I've seen other MEGA shops with securities, security cameras, free booking systems, relaxation bay, sick bay, free refreshments for regular gamblers etc.... It all depends on the turnovers...

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I definitely think that every casino or betting office should have security because as you mentioned some gamblers go to such offices with a lot of money. In addition, security is very important in such offices as it is necessary to intervene quickly in case of cheating, fighting or similar incidents in the office. In addition, such offices without security can often be an easy target for thieves because it isn't difficult to guess that many gamblers spend a lot of money here and the cash boxes are always full.

Although there is generally security in such offices in the region where I live, it is a bit sad to know that there is no security in some regions or countries. Certainly, it is very important for every betting office or casino to have security in order to ensure the safety of the business and customers in every sense.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

If the bet shop is in a place where there is insecurity and have been cases of customer unrest or harassment by other people, then a security can be employed to make sure that such cases never repeat itself. The presence of a fit security can discourage people who have the motive of harassing others in or around the shop. Also if a local bet shop does not wish to remain local, but wants to improve their standard, then a security can also be considered even if the area where the local casino is established is safe.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

I think they can't afford to hire one or that they are just too complacent that there wouldn't be some incidents that may happen. Well, it's their loss in the end considering the consequences is that they will not be patronized anymore the next time if there was an incident that already happened there. That's the very basic.

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We have got an insane amount of "local bet shops" here in the United States where I live. They are mostly all poker /slot machine room type games and for the most part there really isn't security needed because they aren't full blown casinos. But, you do raise a good point, what if someone struck it really big on one of those machines, I don't know how easy it would be to collect your winnings if some huge person came and said they were taking it. Typically there's only one unarmed person running the shop. So you do bring up a valid question.

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Well, yes actually to all establishments if ever. With Gambling establishment, a security personel would be helpful with gamblers who are causing trouble to other people.Also, money is involved therefore that's an enough reason to take things quietly and safely. However it will depend on the platform or establishment where problems given that these features won't be free as well and straight forward. We cannot control the majority with our initiative. This industry causes stress to some people which are just wanting to improve their experiences that they cannot do in a normal basis.

Quote from: Pierre 2 on December 26, 2023, 02:43:45 PM

I think proper security cameras and human securities are necessary in places where gambling is happening. Or else, many gamblers may start disputes over and over. First you should be able to handle those annoying people, and second you should be able to prove them there is not cheating involved. Especially drunk gamblers may give headaches to local owner: "I did not do that but you take my money away" etc. type of baseless claims. And as others also pointed out, its much better to avoid using cash but focusing on pos machines so everything is legit recorded.

Same reason why some gamblers are choosing the most exclusive establishments in gambling for them to be able to strategize and wait for things to be fine. Not to mention those who would engage to public dispute and gain attention from people in the site/ establishment.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on December 26, 2023, 04:53:06 AM

There should really be a security in every local betting shop if we are talking about the security of the players and the owner's business in general. Although having security is really rare and almost close to none, most especially in third world countries. Perhaps this is because they are cutting costs because hiring a security will add cost to manpower budget allotment. So they would rather just install CCTVs instead of adding a guy to secure the perimeter. But it should really be a must, especially because gambling shops cater different personalities. Some are aggressive, some are cheaters, and some are boastful that can lead to argument and fight.

Don't you think bringing securities in a local gambling shop will be more expenses on the shop owners. And if there are more expenses to run on the shop there might be increase in cost of rendering services there. What i mean in essence is that, since there are securities, and they have to pay them weekly or monthly. They may be selective in the type of people who come there to gamble. Like those who do not have enough to spend on gambling will not be allowed to enter. If we see in the popular casinos, if you do not look rich or expenses the securities will be watching you throughout your stay in there. And there are restrictions to the sections you can go in that casino.

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I think proper security cameras and human securities are necessary in places where gambling is happening. Or else, many gamblers may start disputes over and over. First you should be able to handle those annoying people, and second you should be able to prove them there is not cheating involved. Especially drunk gamblers may give headaches to local owner: "I did not do that but you take my money away" etc. type of baseless claims. And as others also pointed out, its much better to avoid using cash but focusing on pos machines so everything is legit recorded.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

what I know is that every physical casino actually has security which is usually provided to address customer concerns as you said and not only in large casinos but in small casinos they usually have security to guard against unwanted things.
but I wonder why the casino near your house doesn't provide security? or maybe you dont know if security is placed behind you?
usually security is not always stationed at the front of casino but there is one in the casino or at the back and will come when needed. It is very unlikely that a casino does not have security and it really dangerous in the long term because a crime could occur in casino.

casinos are always filled with people who have money and if the casino does not provide security of course that will be a big question because if a crime occurs who will secure the situation? meanwhile, this must be really paid attention to because otherwise it will endanger the future of the casino.q

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