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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

I will not even go near that kind of betting station who do not prioritize the safety of their bettors, their bettors are the ones bringing the money into their vault so it is just right that they invest in securing their betting station.

It's not inviting if there are bad elements or criminal-looking people in the vicinity of the station, they will eventually lose their business, they should hire security personnel and invest in close circuit television and make it known to people that their place is secure and they are taking good care of the safety of their bettors.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

In this current era, it is difficult to see people moving around with large sums of money. Even the most uninformed gamblers have access to online banking services. Most physical gambling shops have point-of-sale systems in which gamers can easily use their ATM to fund their account or place bets. Hiring security will be expensive because most of these shops are small businesses that make little profit.

The betting shop could install CCTVs and have contact with the closest police station in case of emergencies. Gamblers should also be encouraged to use online banking services rather than coming with cash. Anyone who is identified as a troublemaker should be stopped from visiting the gambling shop. However, I have seen big gambling houses hire security officials to secure the business. They could successfully do that because they can afford it.

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I think any place that involves money and a many people should be held into high standards when it comes to security.
Casinos employ many security personnel. And I am sure the bigger betting stores would also be able to spend some money on security personnel. If they can afford it, they better do it imo. Having someone there just with presence can increase security quite a bit as people would be following the rules more thoroughly.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

It's the responsibility of the local betting shop that their place is safe and free from bad elements, because how are they going to invite people to bet on their shop if the vicinity of their place, part of their compliant to their license is to make their vicinity as safe as possible, here in our country, local betting station have their own guards and there are a lot of CCTV and they have an open and direct line to the authorities, they need to do if they want the bettors to trust them and don't look for other place to bet.

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Local bet shops in your context are not casinos and I understand they have limited money and bad operations including their investments for security of their shops and customers' life and money.

You will take many risk when playing at those local bet shops. Risk your money to be stolen by the shop operator because they can cheat you and don't give you provably fair games. Risk your money to be stolen by criminals around those shops. Risk your life to be threatened or even lost in worst situations.

Do you want those risks and it does not worth to take risk because you have online casinos with provably fair games.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

I'm not sure why yours lacks security when, in reality, safety comes before happiness. Well, in my country some local bet shops have a security to monitor the people inside and of course to ensure the safety of everyone. To prevent robberies and other criminal activity, they would also install a CCTV in order to determine the culprits. Naturally, there are many other gamblers near you, so you never know when someone may be holding hatred towards you and be waiting to attack when you're placing a wager.
For that reason, whenever you attend any public place, regardless of security measures in place, you should always be aware of your personal safety and security.

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Maybe because uniformed like police personnel were not allowed in these areas. But I think it also depends on what type of gambling is in that area. For VIP or any high profile gambling area I think the establishments has it's own security personnels inside to protect and maintain peace and order in the area. Here in my area lottery booths and cock fighting arenas are the most common areas that has a lot of hostilities like mugging and killings. It happened here in my place in a cock fight derby wherein a gambler was stabbed to death by the co-gambler who has previous altercation with each other. Then the other incident was that of a lottery teller that was being followed and robbed. For me, this is a matter of personal security so I think being aware of our surroundings gives us time to react in a possible harassment or attack. If you are a licensed gun owner and you are having the tool on you then that is the best way to defend yourself.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

It's going to change depending on the particular store, but the one that I know of nearby has a protective shield in front of the desk. It's not going to stop a violent armed robbery, but these places will operate like a bank anyway. There will be a safety deposit box that can accept money but it will only be emptied on a timer making it impractical to access. They will face occasional grief and hassle from people losing bets, but they're free to call the police and ban them from future entry. Nothing can protect them from a determined individual anyway, the same is true about casino robberies. These smaller shops also have much less budget to commit to security.

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Only a few local casinos really pay attention to the comfort and safety of their visitors, the rest of the local casinos only want that the place will be busy with visitors, but they forget one thing that without comfort and security, gamblers will be a little reluctant to visit the casino. This can happen because local casinos really lack people who work professionally so the service provided by them is still far from optimal. Local casinos never forbid anyone from gambling there, so it's natural that we often find people behaving strangely there.

This is different from big casinos or international casinos, they really pay attention to everything including the safety and comfort of their customers, because they know very well that those who come to their place are not just ordinary people, but some of them are their honored guests. So to keep regular customers so they can continue playing there, it is important for casino owners to always maintain the safety and comfort of their customers.
Plus big or international casinos, they really prioritize reputation and popularity. Because this really affects the sustainability of the casino.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

I don't know what you mean by local bet shops though, is it landbase casino? Or it is like lottery that sell tickets or some small in-house gambling shops? In any case landbase casinos have one of the toughest securities and that's one of the question. But for those small in-house gambling shops, not sure if they can afford security around their vicinity. They too are in threat of some robberies so they know what the risk are. As far as my experience goes though, I haven't heard a trend of holdups of winners in small in-house gambling shops. Yes there could be one or two but I think if those robbers are going to take advantage if should be outside of the local bet shop and not inside because who knows, there could also be gamblers that might be armed.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on December 25, 2023, 08:31:23 AM

Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

I do not know how those betting agents operate in a way we do not hear news about them being robbed. I noticed if they can operate and no issue of robbery, the betting agents may not consider having security. If they have certain amount that they have earned, likely the will take it to bank as soon as possible in a way when there is robbery, the robbers will only be able to steal just little amount of money because the rest of the money are would be in bank already.

i believe, they are not really handling large sum of money. and if they are, those gamblers who are carrying such large amount have their own security people. this is why betting shops are not employing security. but i think, at least they have one guard standby but heavy security? i don't think so.

also, these days, a small shop can just install their own CCTVs and be secured about capturing potential threats. and do remember, one can easily take a snapshot and send it to authorities. talk about the presence of smartphones these days. these are the reasons why i think a small bet shop doesn't require heavy security details because there are other means now to secure their place. besides, that would cost a lot of money for their operations, which can reduce their profits largely.

so for a bet shop to secure their premises, they can employ :
- CCTVs
- use of smartphones for their employees / mobile apps
- alarm
- smart access control systems
- keypad
- biometric devices
- perimeter fencing and lighting

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

I do not know how those betting agents operate in a way we do not hear news about them being robbed. I noticed if they can operate and no issue of robbery, the betting agents may not consider having security. If they have certain amount that they have earned, likely the will take it to bank as soon as possible in a way when there is robbery, the robbers will only be able to steal just little amount of money because the rest of the money are would be in bank already.

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There should always be securities in local betting shops because anything can easily happen there, more especially if a gambler lose more than he or she can afford to lose.
In most local betting shops there are different sets of people that can do stupid things even with their real senses, so the best idea to handle such people is to also employee security, even if it just one, as long as the person can handle the job a a security personnel perfectly, then there should be no worries for that.
I have witnessed a lot of gamblers that have done stupid things when the lose all the money that they have.
A man started shouting at customers after he has lost more that he can afford to lose and he was also arrested because he caused trouble that almost take the life of another gambler that was playing his bets peacefully and winning at the same time.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

I still didn’t see bet shop since it’s not available in my country or in my area but I assume it’s like a lottery outlet which people come to place bet then go with a slip. There’s nothing wrong for a having a security on this kind of area but owner is probably saving from additional labor cost since the facility is not typically use for stay of gamblers who wants to bet unlike physical casino that people spend a lot of time to play.

Also it’s not usual for a high roller to go on a bet shop now carrying huge sum of money just to bet. Typically people that use bet shop are those regular small gamblers. It’s very hard to determine who’s the high roller in there since their money is on their wallet.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on December 25, 2023, 07:36:54 AM

For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

In every single country in Europe it is mandatory to have a security or more than one to safeguard your business and clients from harm.Also in some eastern Europe countries I have visited I have seen the same thing,there were quite some security guards running around the big local casinos keeping track of everything going on there and stopping any fight that may arise from drunk gamblers or sore losing gamblers.I personally when I see that a local casino has not at least a security guard guaranteeing safety turn back and do not start playing there.I think many will agree that security is an utmost priority in delicate places like local gambling shops.

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That's true, there should be security in those areas where money comes in and out. Here in our country, lottery outlets don't have security too but I have not seen any crime about the outlet being robbed. I guess the thieves are now afraid of CCTV and how fast they can be caught because people are also taking videos of everything.
Anyway, it's still a good thing if there will be guards that will protect the business area. It's not like they will be paying a lot for just one person to secure the place. I don't bet locally now, I just look for online sports bookies and I think that's also why thieves don't have the appetitive to rob them I mean, there's less money on those places now because most gamblers are using online bookies or playing casino in online gambling sites. That's where the real money is. (Real means mountain of money)

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For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

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