Topic: Should we not get negative feedback for expressing our views? How about me? (Read 776 times)

1-You are opposing a flag where FortuneJack is involved is scamming me out of 120,000 dollars winning bets, so helping promote this website to other users.
2-No I've never touched your website Roobet, I wouldn't be tempted again. But did your avatar change just recently. Could you please tell us what were the last 2 avatars you had before Roobet?


Good to know, very tricky indeed. I tried to trick the website by betting and winning, so they fired back by stealing my 120,000 dollars sportsbets win after accepting my bets and waiting 4 hours for the outcome.

People reading this, don't be tricky on the websites @Stalker22 is promoting, understand? Or it will fire back at you (funds confiscated, you've been warned).

Thanks for your kind words, but I am confused. How did I suddenly become a scam promoter? Are you also accusing Roobet casino of scamming?


You fell into the "trap" because you tried to trick the gambling site, and it backfired on you. But hey! That's just my personal opinion based on what I've read. You may not like it, but I have the right to speak my mind, as does everyone else here, so deal with it.

I know, but this is not the subject here, if « lying is allowed ». The subject is lying, getting money by lying, while abusing the trust score, does not affect a trust score of someone. Speaking about it, like in my case, is being scorned, and punished. It’s about showing that this website, in an essential part of it, is a scam promoter.

Admins could simply give the date on which @examplens opposed my flag. This is almost proof that he reacted to the flag without checking my scam accusation, just to get the money from my giveaway.

I am just trying to convince those who read me not to trust anyone in this forum, nor any promoted organization here and fall in the same trap I fell in.

Even if the forum stores when someone "voted" on a Flag (which isn't certain), and even if Admins are willing to entertain your request (which I doubt will happen), "lying" is allowed on Bitcointalk.

Kindly keep scam accusation discussion here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fortunejack-making-120000-dollars-disappear-from-my-account-5368279

This is not a scam accusation against Fortunejack nor a psychology lesson. As far as Theymos is concerned he can decide for himself.

Look, even after all this drama, I still would have supported you if FJ had canceled all of your bets. But they did pay you according to the terms. And you got the staked amount back for those canceled bets.

Don't be so paranoid. This paranoia is clouding your judgment. You are suspicious of everyone and probably misinterpreting events thus making bad decisions.

Don't expect any reply from Theymos either. Admins rarely get involved in such cases.

As for your tag, suchmoon should at least change it to neutral.
I am not sure about why/how you got your first tag, so can't say anything about it.

@edgycorner, don’t worry about me wasting my life on this, I am not spending my life on this forum like many others do and this has nothing to do with this subject. Don’t waste your time here as you’re saying because you’re bringing nothing to the discussion.
And congratulations you’ve been merited by the liar and thief @examplens and the scam promoter @stalker22.

As far as my case against the liar @examplens goes, I contacted Cyrus a week ago to expose his lies but no answer. I’ll be contacting theymos. I hope not all admins here are on this as well. I’m sure they can verify he is lying.

I really want to stop being a part of this and work on my paper.
I will make one final reply lol

I went through your case again, you did receive 100,000 EUR and their T&C indeed contains the "max win" clause.
I checked previous instances of their T&C, and was able to fetch this https://web.archive.org/web/20200512020750/https://fortunejack.com/faq/sportsbook
Clearly, this term was still there way before your bet. So they did not change any T&C either. It was there before your bet.

The only thing that sticks out is why did they accept your bet? You should have built your case on that. Now it's too late. You have made too many enemies and nobody wants to support you now. Turning it into a very feeble case. It's indeed a very deplorable clause, and they shouldn't have accepted your bet. But it's a question of ethics. This is why your scam accusation couldn't fly.

Your accusation did present the scurvy side of crypto casinos, but we all are aware of it to some extent (like ignoring your married friend's cold sore).

You should move on and enjoy your life it's too short to waste it


Read my reply about it. I couldn't be more accurate about what happened. It was all ego and discord.

Ok thank you for the advice, but all of those questions were asked. It didn't help my flag, even if some acknowledged that this is pure theft. Although I feel no regrets because -for the most part- they're already set in their mind of what they should do, and I've already explained it.

They don't want to increase the cost of +/- scammy websites of being on this forum by forcing them to stop selective scam some big winners, because the promoters will then be less likely inclined to do signature campaigns for them.

You should call evil by its name, and if it is my expression style that makes them support one of their promoters in scamming somebody, let it be, it means they're bad people.

Of course you aren't, one of the mob members here gave you a taste of what it should be like for you-as far as your trust score is concerned-if you dare to say something else than what the scam promoters here want.

If you believe they are in the wrong, then question them instead of bombarding adjectives. This is only hurting your case. Take a smoko.
Please be respectful.

You should be asking these questions instead of picking fights with other members

Good luck. I won't participate in this discussion anymore.

Ok thks so it's the admins of this section. I will contact Cyrus.


I thought you were gone from the forum..... In some way I am always "civil" but I don't have to "respect" liars and thieves in some other way, and I can call them for what they are. Nobody has to post nonsense messages, lie about participating in a giveaway I organize and say "I did not ask for his money" while they did. These are the same people opposing my flag.

The case here is only a case of some dishonest people in some instances, and some other instances some stupid people just following the Crowd, some sort of "group thinking".
The dishonest people are about not to increase the cost of their scammers advertising on this forum. If they were to say to Fortunejack.com you'll have to pay, more or less scammy websites advertised here will recalculate the real cost of being on this forum since they'll also have to pay their scammed victims. On the other hand, look at the LTCCasino scam accusation. They got flagged even before their 3 months investigation was over as per their terms and conditions, and they were just saying they were investigating. Why? Because they don't do signature campaigns here. This is the nasty business of some ungodly people who believe in nothing else than dirty money.

Admins are Cyrus and theymos.

I played devil's advocate in a maieutic manner and got passionate about it.  Twitchyseal and I took a diametric stance on the matter which resulted in a heated discussion with a few disrespectful remarks by me. It was a series of unfortunate events, driven by our different weltanschauung and my little ego. Twitchyseal is the bigger man in my case, and I owe them an apology.
But your case is very much different. My matter is trivial compared to yours.

I am not going to get involved in another scam accusation.
I will leave you with some advice:  Be respectful. Don't be presumptuous with your opinions about other members. Don't deviate from the subject. Stick to the facts and always be honest. You will garner more support this way if your case is true. Good luck.

Nah come on... You're wrong because you believed your "well respected" friend @examplens, now you know he's lying. And my bet is not about whether he opposed my flag back then. It's just about what you're saying: that he is genuine in saying he opposed my flag before giveaway. All I'm saying is that he is lying. Could you please be more precise in what I am manipulating instead of nonsense talking?

It's amazing how persistent, bold and blatant you are in lying, but no wonder for someone who supports a scam like fortunejack. Just curious, are you American?

It depends. If it is someone who is indifferent towards scam promoters in this forum being given so much high trust scores and being ok with them lying without being checked, fine. If not, maybe it could be a good person who will give us this information. Do you know who can give this information?

Oh, I see. I missed that. Thanks.


I am afraid I will have to disappoint you. Obviously, I was wrong about my previous assessment because I assumed that you created the flag at the same time as the scam accusation. However, I still believe you are manipulating and lying, because of your history of such behavior. So, no, I am not interested in making a deal with you.

Probably. But I doubt Admin is going to tell you. I couldn't find the exact date on BPIP.org either, and I don't know any other external tools that keep track.

Don’t worry, I’ll make it important for you.
Don’t try to minimize the deception that is in the « trust » of your casino scam promoter group.



100%. Ok, let’s see what happens when a professional nonsense talker is challenged. Let’s bet 0.1 BTC each that if we can find some proof @examplens has opposed the flag before my giveaway for you, and after for me. I’ll let you freeroll me again like fortunejack did no problem, I guess this is perfectly fine within the casinos you promote. Would you like to take it? Or you can continue your professional nonsense talk, no problem.

@Loyce there must be a way to know on the bitcointalk server no? On the other hand, if you’ve worked out so hard on the trust system that the best of it that came out of are @examplens and @FortuneJack, what a waste of talent. You can get much better results elsewhere.

He couldn't have Opposed it last year, the Flag was created on 2022-05-08. Unfortunately, I stopped daily updates for my Trust Flag viewer, so I can't tell on which day the Flag was Opposed.

I doubt the administrator will bother with such unimportant things.

You are clearly misleading and manipulating. This is not a "serious issue" since anyone who is anyone on this forum knows that examplens is a respectable member. As for his reaction on the flag, I believe his words because the evidence speaks in his favor.

This is his comment in the original scam accusation thread:


Based on this, it is obvious that he opposed your flag back then, and I am 100% certain that you are lying.

The title is quite different from your post. Expressing an opinion shouldn't get a red tag if your opinion is constructive. But if your opinion or expression supports scammers or somehow abuses the forum trust system then you may get a tag. In your case seems you tried to manipulate the flag system by a giveaway. And definitely, this is an abuse of the trust system. Everyone is free to oppose or support. But it should be free of cost, not paid anyway.