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Topic: SILENTARMY v5: Zcash miner, 115 sol/s on R9 Nano, 70 sol/s on GTX 1070 - page 34. (Read 209309 times)

sr. member
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Here are new Windows binaries. They should fix the bug that was causing duplicate shares.

https://github.com/zawawawa/silentarmy
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Wait next +10% in 12h, then 2 days pause before major release (~+50% ).
Not 10% Sad Only 7-8% for NVidia (AMD may be +1% Smiley ):
http://coinsforall.io/distr/input.cl
for AMD: http://coinsforall.io/distr/param.h.amd
for NVidia: http://coinsforall.io/distr/param.h.nvidia

Stock GTX1070 - 93sols/s now.
sr. member
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I'm not claiming that Claymore's or Optiminer's miners will definately brick your cards.
I'm just sharing my experience Smiley
Amount of resources to run CM or OM are kicking the sky compared to silentarmy.
4 RX480, 30% Fans + - 10% 60 C top, 400S/s -> silentarmy
4 RX480, 60% Fans + - 10% 65 C , 500S/s -> CM
I will not run optiminer again...no, no, no, the amount of pain(mental and physical) that this sh*t cost me cannot be repaid with higher hashrate.
sr. member
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can't wait for this to match speeds with CM  so i can use nicehash, i can make more there right now then farming zec direct but CM has issues with nicehash when it Fee mines and this software miner doesn't .all  because of that lame fee in CM.
Add -nofee Smiley CM and Optiminer almost bricked 2 of my cards...had to reflash bios to bring them back to life...

Had similar issue..system crashed and booting into windows didn't work anymore the cards always got crazy . After reinstalling the drivers it worked again.
Strange is it was running 24h without issues.then issue..now 24h again no problem lets see whats next.-
sr. member
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Fighting mob law and inquisition in this forum
Many duplucated shares with Zwawawa version..ou tof 100 I got 55 dupe warnings.

Which video card/driver/os?

Windows 10 Pro x64 last working driver for GTX10x series 375.76 the newer one is culprit :-D
Somehow the dupe error gone after 3 times starting :-/
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can't wait for this to match speeds with CM  so i can use nicehash, i can make more there right now then farming zec direct but CM has issues with nicehash when it Fee mines and this software miner doesn't .all  because of that lame fee in CM.
Add -nofee Smiley CM and Optiminer almost bricked 2 of my cards...had to reflash bios to bring them back to life...

Care to share the Story of the almost bricking?
I'm using Optiminer with a single RX 480 in my home server, and it's been running at 130S/s for days with no issues.


DISREGARD

I mistook CM for Optiminer! Sorry, i'm lacking sleep...

I'm also using CM on my home PC with 2 480's, been running since the beginning, and no issues.
What OS/drivers did you all have?
legendary
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can't wait for this to match speeds with CM  so i can use nicehash, i can make more there right now then farming zec direct but CM has issues with nicehash when it Fee mines and this software miner doesn't .all  because of that lame fee in CM.
Add -nofee Smiley CM and Optiminer almost bricked 2 of my cards...had to reflash bios to bring them back to life...

i know all about Optiminer heard some bad things it can do to cards i'm not about to try it . you confirmed it even more. flypool is making more again i just looked a buck or two more over nice went back there i watch both . won't turning it off make less or that extra speed is fee speed for clay. i guess ?.
sr. member
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can't wait for this to match speeds with CM  so i can use nicehash, i can make more there right now then farming zec direct but CM has issues with nicehash when it Fee mines and this software miner doesn't .all  because of that lame fee in CM.
Add -nofee Smiley CM and Optiminer almost bricked 2 of my cards...had to reflash bios to bring them back to life...
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
can't wait for this to match speeds with CM  so i can use nicehash, i can make more there right now then farming zec direct but CM has issues with nicehash when it Fee mines and this software miner doesn't .all  because of that lame fee in CM.
sr. member
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I cranked up the core clock by 200 and the mem by 500 no change in hash rate though any ideas as to why ?
You need correct memory straps to see any difference.
This means modded rom is required.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
I cranked up the core clock by 200 and the mem by 500 no change in hash rate though any ideas as to why ?
legendary
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I Download precompiled binaries (v5-win64standalone-r4). run list.bat and hve a error 0xc000007b.
win7x64 latest amd drives

you may need this


https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48145


thanks top.

That worked for me ! getting 300sols on coinmine with 3  gtx 1070 and 1 gtx 970  thanks !

basically 90 sols per gtx 1070
sr. member
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Miner Developer
Many duplucated shares with Zwawawa version..ou tof 100 I got 55 dupe warnings.
Same problem, win10/64, gtx1070 non clocked, last drivers.

This is very strange as others reported my port was working fine with GTX 1070.
Which pools are you guys on?

I identified the cause. I will upload a new version shortly.
legendary
Activity: 1274
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I Download precompiled binaries (v5-win64standalone-r4). run list.bat and hve a error 0xc000007b.
win7x64 latest amd drives

you may need this


https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48145


thanks top.
full member
Activity: 356
Merit: 100
Many duplucated shares with Zwawawa version..ou tof 100 I got 55 dupe warnings.
Same problem, win10/64, gtx1070 non clocked, last drivers.

This is very strange as others reported my port was working fine with GTX 1070.
Which pools are you guys on?

suprnova, now works on this hardware silentarmy5 + new param.h input.cl ubuntu 16.04 - all ok
sr. member
Activity: 728
Merit: 304
Miner Developer
Many duplucated shares with Zwawawa version..ou tof 100 I got 55 dupe warnings.
Same problem, win10/64, gtx1070 non clocked, last drivers.

This is very strange as others reported my port was working fine with GTX 1070.
Which pools are you guys on?
newbie
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Merit: 0
Here are new Windows binaries with eXtremal's most recent optimization!
They should detect AMD and NVIDIA cards automatically.

https://github.com/zawawawa/silentarmy

Thanks! 1070 speed increased 6-8% than v3. but power draw increased 10% than v3.
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On 750Ti its as fast as nicehash version (10-11 sol/s)

I'm getting 20-25 sols on a 750ti

Is yours stock or reference?
sr. member
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The RX 480 is a tossup with the GTX 1070 on memory access - which is why they're comparable at best in performance on algorythms like the ones ZEC and ETH use despite the GTX 1070 cost being almost twice as much.

Nvidia gets the "scraps" on mining because most mining algorythms don't use most of the parts of a NVidia card that makes it competative with AMD cards on general or compute-bound usage at a given price point, and as a result few folks use NVidia cards to mine on which makes them a much lower priority for development.

 It's not "lack of development" ALONE that keeps Nvidia uncompetative on a hash/$ basis for ETH and ZEC (and derivatives using the same algorythms).
 It's the inherent design of the ALGORYTHMS that keep NVidia uncompetative on a hash/$ basis coupled with the higher PRICE of their cards that have competative memory access even when development IS mature.

It's waaaaay too early to call this based on memory bus width. There is a lot of theorycrafting and it's all based on current hashrates and extrapolating against the original CPU miner code, not GPU optimized code, and not code made specifically for Nvidia hardware.

The only algo that doesn't fully utilize a 1070 is Dagger, Ethereum, which I've mentioned before. Which has lead to a misconception of the capabilities of a 1070... see your post. There are a lot of other algos out there... NeoS, Lyra2v2, Lbry, there are more all of which the 1070 performs quite well in. However, they aren't high volume and as such it leads to statements like what you made... Assuming all of crypto land is just Dagger-Hashimoto. Dagger is the only really memory bound Algo out there, Cryptonote also is, but that's controlled by CPU botnets because of it.

It is the lack of development in Equihash, that's for certain. The only Nvidia optimized miner that has come out was from Nicehash and it was worthless a day later as it wasn't being made by the big three.

The reason there is so much AMD development, is there are a lot more miners with AMD cards.  They have historically been best investment mining wise.  They were better with Bitcoin and Litecoin, (which are both heavily compute limited), because they supported certain key operations in hardware.  AMD tends to have better price/performance anyway, even for gaming.  The newer algorithms are memory hard on purpose, to be heavily ASIC resistant, there are ASICs for most non memory hard algorithms.  Sure a 1070 has more compute than a 480, but it costs 2X as much, so it is kinda silly to buy for mining, when you can get same/faster speed for half the cost.  The 1060 3GB is decent choice for Ethereum, but 470 is still a lot better cost/perf.

The term you were looking for is 'scrypt' and that is where things died for AMD as well. Everything went private in 2014 and you couldn't make money at the end of it on AMD hardware. I know, I had AMD hardware back then. I reinvested multiple times in order to get around that. The original CCminer was when Nvidia 750tis started separating out, after a decent amount of work. It wasn't until Ethereum came out that AMD was profitable again at the end of 2015.

I assume many of you guys are eth-babies, you started mining this spring and everything is Dagger to you. It's not the way it works.

Price/performance for gaming has no merit what so ever in a conversation about cryptos.

The 'price/performance' based solely around Dagger is silly. Dagger isn't the only algo.

AMD is definitely not the vast majority, maybe like a 70/30 split, but it's not just AMD. Almost all of Lbry right now is on Nvidia hardware as it's much more efficient and performs much better. When was the last time you mined Lbry, NeoS, or Lyra2v2? Is it profitable for you? There is a reason it's not. There are a lot of miners on Ethereum as well, as there isn't anywhere else to go right now due to the lack of development on Equihash.

Don't personify me as 'Nvidia' because I own Nvidia hardware. I am not Nvidia.

Equihash is obviously memory bound, you just don't want to admit it.  Theoretically you could do it with low memory, but it would be insanely inefficient.

I know there was the dip in mining profit in 2014 due to the crypto burst.  I mined in 2012-2013, then stopped for while and started again when it was worth it.  I know more proper would be SHA256 and scrypt, I was just naming by the main coins.  Obviously both irrelevant now due to ASICs.

Dagger isn't the only algo out there, but has easily the most marketshare.  Ethereum marketshare is over 100x what Lbry is.  So sure, you can mine Lbry with Nvidia, but since it's marketshare is a lot lower, profitibility is low because it's the only thing Nvidia cards are good at.  So if mining is 70/30 like you say, then 70% are smart miners, and 30% are Nvidia fans who want Nvidia to be better on hopes and dreams, or just mine when not gaming, and they have the card anyway.  It is hard to believe 70/30 when Ethereum has 100x marketshare, and Nvidia costs 2x as much for same speed.  Nvidia is subpar with Ethereum, it will be subpar with Zcash.  Sure you can still  make a profit, it will just take a while.  Having a handful of other coins that Nvidia is good at doesn't help, when none of them are coins anyone cares about.  And if they do take off, surely ASICs will be made, rendering your GPUs useless anyway.

I got some 1060 3GB cards to see how they do, they are decent doing Ethereum, definitively a lot better price/perf than 1070 or 1080.  For a short period, Lbry profit was good, now not so much.  90% of my farm is AMD though.  I would mine on either AMD or Nvidia hardware depending on profitability, I just don't see the point of whining that one or the other isn't as good.  Instead, you should just admit the facts, and go buy different hardware.  
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Activity: 356
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Many duplucated shares with Zwawawa version..ou tof 100 I got 55 dupe warnings.
Same problem, win10/64, gtx1070 non clocked, last drivers.
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