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Quote from: komisariatku on February 02, 2024, 12:12:30 PM

Seriously? you get maxwin up to 5x a week? that's crazy guys. Now it's very difficult to get Maxwin on PP, the last time I got maxwin was about 2 years ago. Pragmatic slot machines are now brutal

Yes I did, maybe you can find the screenshot in this thread because I believe I've shared it here as well as in duelbits ANN thread since I won it at duelbits before the pandemic if I remember it correctly. You are right that it is getting harder now to hit max win on Pragmatic games, but I think my luck is already over on this provider so I hit no more max win for so long time but of course it is also because I played less than before. Basically Fruit Party can be said as the game which give more frequent max win, in one casino there are at least 2-3 players who get max win every day based on the lucky win information. I hit max win in this game as well once long time ago at rollbit.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on February 01, 2024, 09:10:17 PM

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Most of new pragmatic play slot are (10,000x) pretty rare to see with more than 15,000x-20,000x. So, If you looking more than current max-win (10,000x) perhaps trying a casino with (Gaming) provider in the back. Example Relax Gaming, Push Gaming or perhaps you want to tried No-Limit. Anywhy, speaking about total spin you are made and not hit any bonus section. It's just speculation, If you ask these normal or not you will get various answer no one is have a solid proof because we all know 98% of the slot ended our money empty.

Yeah, I think that those that give you more than say 15k X are usually extremely rare in terms of making it.

The probabilities of winning those seem to be rather small anyway, so I guess it's not worth trying.

On the other hand, it is quite tempting to put a bit of money there to try to get the massive win.

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Quote from: bayu7adi on February 01, 2024, 08:52:08 PM

BTW, is it normal to bet x200 spins and not get any free spins at all (the game I played today was Viking Forge)?

This is not a matter of normal or not, maybe you are unlucky, if you are lucky then you can get a freespin bonus with just 10 or 20 spins, but this rarely happens. If you play on a slot machine that has a buy freespin feature, you can combine it with normal spins and buy free spins. Usually I do it like that, about 10 or 20 normal spins and if the results are bad I will buy free spins, if the results are still bad you can try another slot machine.

Quote from: Bitinity on February 02, 2024, 03:39:54 AM

In fact it is the game that gave me max win 4-5 times within a week few years ago.

Seriously? you get maxwin up to 5x a week? that's crazy guys. Now it's very difficult to get Maxwin on PP, the last time I got maxwin was about 2 years ago. Pragmatic slot machines are now brutal

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Quote from: bayu7adi on February 01, 2024, 08:52:08 PM

BTW, is it normal to bet x200 spins and not get any free spins at all (the game I played today was Viking Forge)?

There is no average about how many spins is needed for a single free spins so we cant say it is normal or not. What we can say is just lucky or unlucky. Some time a game may give few free spins within 100spins but at the other time, the same game may not give you a single free spins within few hundreds spins. My worst experience with Pragmatic play was when I did not hit free spins after 500 spins and 300 spins with double chance on the same game but not at the same time. In fact it is the game that gave me max win 4-5 times within a week few years ago.

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Quote from: bayu7adi on February 01, 2024, 08:52:08 PM

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Most of new pragmatic play slot are (10,000x) pretty rare to see with more than 15,000x-20,000x. So, If you looking more than current max-win (10,000x) perhaps trying a casino with (Gaming) provider in the back. Example Relax Gaming, Push Gaming or perhaps you want to tried No-Limit. Anywhy, speaking about total spin you are made and not hit any bonus section. It's just speculation, If you ask these normal or not you will get various answer no one is have a solid proof because we all know 98% of the slot ended our money empty.

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Quote from: komisariatku on January 31, 2024, 05:12:44 PM

I also feel the same thing, the current pragmatic is different from the previous pragmatic one. Now pragmatics are more brutal and it is very difficult to get big wins and perhaps this is felt by many people so that other slot machine providers are starting to become popular and played.

I have long since started avoiding pragmatic slot machines, although I still play them but less frequently than before. However I haven't found another provider I'm comfortable with, but I quite like Play'N Go for now

For the last few games I prefer spin slots for machines from Pragmatic Play. I haven't really explored all the slot machines from Pragmatic Play or Play N Go, because I don't just play slots on one machine.

My biggest win to date is still from Pragmatic Play a few days ago. I'm still trying to explore other slot machines from Pragmatic Play to try my luck a little. Especially with machines that have a higher maximum multiplier.

BTW, is it normal to bet x200 spins and not get any free spins at all (the game I played today was Viking Forge)?

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Quote from: swogerino on January 28, 2024, 05:09:37 PM

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and I've changed my mind. I'm not winning anything big since then, but at least I know, Pragmatic slots can deliver.

Asking out of interest, has some else company gave you bigger wins before? (as you didn't get anything big from Pragmatic before). Pragmatic games has been go to slots me for a long time and they have served me well with big wins in the past, but now i have been experiencing a long dry patch with them. So i am looking for other slots to explore. But so far any of the ones i've tried haven't gave me anything either. I know it's just bad luck, but not winning anything worth while isn't giving me reasons to play other slots. If every time i am only getting a fraction of my bets back, it's maybe time to hit the sports betting again.

I also feel the same thing, the current pragmatic is different from the previous pragmatic one. Now pragmatics are more brutal and it is very difficult to get big wins and perhaps this is felt by many people so that other slot machine providers are starting to become popular and played.

I have long since started avoiding pragmatic slot machines, although I still play them but less frequently than before. However I haven't found another provider I'm comfortable with, but I quite like Play'N Go for now

Small win from PP : https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/ki5fMBisaR

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Quote from: swogerino on January 28, 2024, 05:09:37 PM

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and I've changed my mind. I'm not winning anything big since then, but at least I know, Pragmatic slots can deliver.

Asking out of interest, has some else company gave you bigger wins before? (as you didn't get anything big from Pragmatic before). Pragmatic games has been go to slots me for a long time and they have served me well with big wins in the past, but now i have been experiencing a long dry patch with them. So i am looking for other slots to explore. But so far any of the ones i've tried haven't gave me anything either. I know it's just bad luck, but not winning anything worth while isn't giving me reasons to play other slots. If every time i am only getting a fraction of my bets back, it's maybe time to hit the sports betting again.

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Yoo folks.

Did anyone missed (No-Limits) have you tried this high-volatility slot? Max win or Nothing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RocZ7bqTcT0 It's crazy (No-Limit) to design these ~LOL. Make sure, If you tried these on up section.

Cause, you can lose faster + up faster (If you got streak win on max win).

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Quote from: swogerino on January 28, 2024, 05:09:37 PM

I think that is why you are wrong,normally it depends on the slot but lately Pragmatic Play have been really really bad as slots people are struggling in all casinos to hit something decent with them.I don't know what happened to them but to me it looks to win huge in Pragmatic slots nowadays is much harder than passing a difficult math test.

I personally have shifted view and got back to Play n Go,I usually play 30-50 dollars and I feel better knowing I have played my chances better as the bonus there will fall within such range playing with minimum bet of 0.10 while in Pragmatic slots even catching the bonus in base spins is becoming mission impossible.F*ck them as the worst provider for me.

Bad for you does not mean that it is also bad for others, because I'm sure there are some other players who win big when you are on bad moment with pragmatic.
I'm sure there were some times when you were also experiencing really bad result with Play n Go for long time.
What you say is normal because when we have our own favorite provider and we will say that other provider is bad although you play less than your favorite provider.
The conclusion is, no matter which game you play, which provider you play, luck is the only factor that will decide the result.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 28, 2024, 05:35:03 AM

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Quote from: panjul07 on January 24, 2024, 09:17:38 AM

Razor Shark is one of my favorite slots game that I'll never missed to play although only few tens spins.

Let him try.

At least he will know the reality once he experience by him self before he see a big win from other user. He will think, f*ck these is hard to hit the bonus while he playing on top slot from (Relax, Push, and other).

After that, he will move to pragmatic play again ~xd

Interesting. In the past I used to think that Pragmatic Play slots were not that rewarding. My wins on those slots were always below 100x, but then one day I won this

on Twilight Princess by Pragmatic Play, and it was my personal record 1,172.75x of my bet

and I've changed my mind. I'm not winning anything big since then, but at least I know, Pragmatic slots can deliver.

I think that is why you are wrong,normally it depends on the slot but lately Pragmatic Play have been really really bad as slots people are struggling in all casinos to hit something decent with them.I don't know what happened to them but to me it looks to win huge in Pragmatic slots nowadays is much harder than passing a difficult math test.

I personally have shifted view and got back to Play n Go,I usually play 30-50 dollars and I feel better knowing I have played my chances better as the bonus there will fall within such range playing with minimum bet of 0.10 while in Pragmatic slots even catching the bonus in base spins is becoming mission impossible.F*ck them as the worst provider for me.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on January 24, 2024, 01:15:22 PM

Quote from: panjul07 on January 24, 2024, 09:17:38 AM

Razor Shark is one of my favorite slots game that I'll never missed to play although only few tens spins.

Let him try.

At least he will know the reality once he experience by him self before he see a big win from other user. He will think, f*ck these is hard to hit the bonus while he playing on top slot from (Relax, Push, and other).

After that, he will move to pragmatic play again ~xd

Interesting. In the past I used to think that Pragmatic Play slots were not that rewarding. My wins on those slots were always below 100x, but then one day I won this

on Twilight Princess by Pragmatic Play, and it was my personal record 1,172.75x of my bet

and I've changed my mind. I'm not winning anything big since then, but at least I know, Pragmatic slots can deliver.

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Quote from: komisariatku on January 25, 2024, 05:05:20 AM

I think I pretty much agree that newly released slot machines are usually easier to win on them. That's not a guarantee but I think it is

I also have friends who have habits like your friend. He really likes creating new accounts and he says he has better luck using new accounts. However, I don't really agree with this strategy, because using a new account will make us lose the bonuses that are usually given to accounts that already have VIP level. Apart from that, some casinos also prohibit the use of multiple accounts so I think it is very risky if we always create new accounts

Thinking that new games or new account or maybe new site/casino to play will give easier win is basically one of gambler's fallacies. If we win in some new games or with new accounts or in a new casino, all of these are just because of luck, nothing else. If it is real that those strategies will give easier win, there must be so many players who become rich by using such a strategy

I was a gambler who love to try new released games by various providers, some new games gave me nice win earlier but some other games gave me bad losing streak.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on January 26, 2024, 12:34:15 PM

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Well, you know the problem then.

IMO, you should never hold raw cash with a big amount. Big advice, is always tried to buy a stuff/item in real life example like buying some Cars/Bike. It's work for me, with 2-4 years gambling.

I only lost the money I have but never lose item/stuff I owned. At least my addiction is not really f*ck up my reality while selling all my stuff for gambling.

Yeah, that's actually a good advice in general, not only gambling.

With inflation the purchasing power of money actually goes down over time, but if you have assets, they keep their value or even go up.

So, you're usually better off by buying assets instead of having more money.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on January 24, 2024, 06:21:45 PM

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Well, you know the problem then.

IMO, you should never hold raw cash with a big amount. Big advice, is always tried to buy a stuff/item in real life example like buying some Cars/Bike. It's work for me, with 2-4 years gambling.

I only lost the money I have but never lose item/stuff I owned. At least my addiction is not really f*ck up my reality while selling all my stuff for gambling.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on January 24, 2024, 05:56:01 AM

Quote from: nullama on January 23, 2024, 04:28:33 PM

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Slot have some information of their RTP. But, something speculation like:
- Hitting bonus average 100-120 spin
- New slot have higher chance win and big win
- Etc

It's from user speculation, nothing wrong about that just don't have solid proof at all for that case. So, don't really take these as your guide for playing slot many people gone mad because the expectation is really false ~xd.

Yeah that's right, speculation comes from experience but there are no guarantees I am one of the slot players who confirms this speculation and I'm not alone. I have a friend who keeps playing with a new account, he creates a new stake account and plays if he has reached a certain win then he will withdraw all the balance and create a new account. He assumed that the casino would consider him a new player so that he would be given a greater chance of winning so that he would become an addicted player, sometimes this seems reasonable but still there are no guarantees.

I think I pretty much agree that newly released slot machines are usually easier to win on them. That's not a guarantee but I think it is

I also have friends who have habits like your friend. He really likes creating new accounts and he says he has better luck using new accounts. However, I don't really agree with this strategy, because using a new account will make us lose the bonuses that are usually given to accounts that already have VIP level. Apart from that, some casinos also prohibit the use of multiple accounts so I think it is very risky if we always create new accounts

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Quote from: ryzaadit on January 24, 2024, 05:56:01 AM

Quote from: nullama on January 23, 2024, 04:28:33 PM

-snip-

Slot have some information of their RTP. But, something speculation like:
- Hitting bonus average 100-120 spin
- New slot have higher chance win and big win
- Etc

It's from user speculation, nothing wrong about that just don't have solid proof at all for that case. So, don't really take these as your guide for playing slot many people gone mad because the expectation is really false ~xd.

Yeah that's right, speculation comes from experience but there are no guarantees I am one of the slot players who confirms this speculation and I'm not alone. I have a friend who keeps playing with a new account, he creates a new stake account and plays if he has reached a certain win then he will withdraw all the balance and create a new account. He assumed that the casino would consider him a new player so that he would be given a greater chance of winning so that he would become an addicted player, sometimes this seems reasonable but still there are no guarantees.

If you ask whether the new account and device strategy is successful, I don't know because he only shares his wins while hiding his losses. Cheesy

but I personally tried it 4 years ago from 20 accounts more than 70% win, the problem is that when the last account loses we will continue to send deposits until all the balance is used up well, the conclusion is that there is always a trap.

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Quote from: panjul07 on January 24, 2024, 09:17:38 AM

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New games does not mean that it is easier to hit big win for those who never played it before, luck does not care about new or old game we are playing LOL.
Loyal players in slot games? It does exist, most slot players has their own favorite slot(s) to play including me.
Almost in all my gambling session, I will spend some money and time to play my favorite slots because I do like it.
Razor Shark is one of my favorite slots game that I'll never missed to play although only few tens spins.

True.

Having new games give you the idea that maybe they have different odds, which might be true.

The reality is that most new machines come with new rules and odds, and most probably are tuned to make it more difficult for the gambler.

I can't see a casino investing in new machines that have more favorable odds for the gambler.

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Quote from: panjul07 on January 24, 2024, 09:17:38 AM

Razor Shark is one of my favorite slots game that I'll never missed to play although only few tens spins.

Let him try.

At least he will know the reality once he experience by him self before he see a big win from other user. He will think, f*ck these is hard to hit the bonus while he playing on top slot from (Relax, Push, and other).

After that, he will move to pragmatic play again ~xd

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Quote from: bayu7adi on January 23, 2024, 03:24:47 PM

Quote from: panjul07 on January 21, 2024, 07:57:43 AM

Yes I learned a lot from roycilik, especially in case of which slot to play.
Of course there is no learned strategy to win, but choosing slot game to play can be considered as strategy as well.

That seems like a valuable lesson. The last few games you shared did look different, and I felt compelled to try playing other slot games when I achieved my first big win in a new slot game. Is it like a strategy to get the first win on every new game that is usually easy for users who have just tried it? So, there are no loyal users in slot games, right?

Tomorrow I want to try another slot game after I get home from work.

New games does not mean that it is easier to hit big win for those who never played it before, luck does not care about new or old game we are playing LOL.
Loyal players in slot games? It does exist, most slot players has their own favorite slot(s) to play including me.
Almost in all my gambling session, I will spend some money and time to play my favorite slots because I do like it.
Razor Shark is one of my favorite slots game that I'll never missed to play although only few tens spins.

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