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Topic: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) - page 6. (Read 25559 times)

legendary
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Perhaps, my temptation is going high because of these posts.

I still playing on old slot, last play slot on (Gate of Olympus) with Bonus Buy around 100$+ on BK8. Resulting no luck after 4 month hibernation from there because due 500x multiplier from bonus buys.

Maybe, new slot would be great. ~XD
legendary
Activity: 3458
Merit: 1350


My newest nice win, I hit it yesterday when I was trying to complete the SvE promo at Stake.
I deposited $50 and directly played this game, luckily I hit free spins in less than 10 spins and the free spins gave $352 which is x3524 of my base bet.
There are many other users who hit max win (x10,000) in this game lately due to many players play this game.
Maybe you guys should try it and who knows that you will hit max win, or at least hit 1000x as the target to beat for the promotion.
hero member
Activity: 952
Merit: 938
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Yeah, I mean, when we see a new slot do we go to info section first? Who does that? It's good if we go there after several days of playing, but go there right away? And also it has made the way we forget about what was there in the info section in a minute. Our brain is wired to feel optimistic when some jars are getting fuller and fuller. We expect it's not for nothing.

This made me think of reading the manual when you buy something new  Grin

Some people will never read any manual whereas others won't even touch the new thing before reading it fully.

I guess it depends on the person.
legendary
Activity: 3458
Merit: 1350
Yeah, I mean, when we see a new slot do we go to info section first? Who does that? It's good if we go there after several days of playing, but go there right away? And also it has made the way we forget about what was there in the info section in a minute. Our brain is wired to feel optimistic when some jars are getting fuller and fuller. We expect it's not for nothing.
I do it, especially for a completely new slot, I mean not just a re-themed slot.
Info section is important for me to know the basic thing of the new games such as payout, RTP, max win, and other features.
Once I read the info section and I think that the new slot is not something that I like, I will not play it.

legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 2112
Stand with Ukraine
Oh man, I think it should be illegal, to be honest. It's like with cigarettes, you can't write  “light” and “low tar” on the boxes since some point in the past, because it creates an illusion that some tobacco products are safer than others while all of them are dangerous and addictive. I lost more than $100 on this slot collecting dozens of those balls to no avail. I'd rather have regular symbols on the reels instead of those balls.
Yeah, it's important to do some research first (at least read the information section) before making an assumption. But, in reality, most of the players won't open the info section, worse, they even don't know the RTP and stuff. From legal PoV, I think they will state that they are honest with the game specification, even though it's slightly hidden. So it's completely fine IMO (Disclaimer: I'm not a law expert). We did this kind of mistake, so no sweat, just learn from it Grin
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Yeah, I mean, when we see a new slot do we go to info section first? Who does that? It's good if we go there after several days of playing, but go there right away? And also it has made the way we forget about what was there in the info section in a minute. Our brain is wired to feel optimistic when some jars are getting fuller and fuller. We expect it's not for nothing.
hero member
Activity: 952
Merit: 938
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I also do it when I feel it is my lucky day and it's true that sometimes it works, the mistake we most often make is taking the wrong moment when we win somehow it's very difficult to stop instantly our brain thinks this must be 10x but in fact this is the 10th deposit Grin but that in the past, not for now. For now I have to set a withdrawal target before starting to play at least 100% of my deposit if in the end it is more than 100% then I will leave it in the account for the next game and make sure the first withdrawal has landed in your bank account, not in your crypto wallet if not, then there will be persuasion that always appears in your ears re-deposit re-deposit, Honestly, you experienced it, right?

Yeah, many gamblers simply bet based on their gut feeling, and that might actually sometimes be the best way of doing it.

The thing is that you can get all the odds, calculations, etc, and still lose, and someone that just bets on a hunch wins. Or vice-versa. It's just luck.
hero member
Activity: 2856
Merit: 541
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Even because we feel like we want to win we use many sites, sometimes when we win on the first site we transfer it to another site and play and so on, maybe you know the final result, but sometimes it will work to get lucky, whatever strategy what we do in gambling the results will be the same, but we enjoy doing it

I also do it when I feel it is my lucky day and it's true that sometimes it works, the mistake we most often make is taking the wrong moment when we win somehow it's very difficult to stop instantly our brain thinks this must be 10x but in fact this is the 10th deposit Grin but that in the past, not for now. For now I have to set a withdrawal target before starting to play at least 100% of my deposit if in the end it is more than 100% then I will leave it in the account for the next game and make sure the first withdrawal has landed in your bank account, not in your crypto wallet if not, then there will be persuasion that always appears in your ears re-deposit re-deposit, Honestly, you experienced it, right?
Moving winnings from the previous casino to another casino and gambling again will not always result in winnings. Therefore, if we win from a casino, we should immediately stop gambling and leave the casino after we withdraw the winnings. When we win, our minds will tell us to continue gambling, either keep playing at that casino or move to another casino, but that's what usually happens. Most gamblers experience this, including me, and I also used to do what you do. But after experiencing a big loss I never imagined, I learned to restrain myself, especially after winning. I now prefer to leave the casino and if I can win above the minimum withdrawal limit, I will withdraw the winnings and leave the casino.
sr. member
Activity: 2114
Merit: 268
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Even because we feel like we want to win we use many sites, sometimes when we win on the first site we transfer it to another site and play and so on, maybe you know the final result, but sometimes it will work to get lucky, whatever strategy what we do in gambling the results will be the same, but we enjoy doing it

I also do it when I feel it is my lucky day and it's true that sometimes it works, the mistake we most often make is taking the wrong moment when we win somehow it's very difficult to stop instantly our brain thinks this must be 10x but in fact this is the 10th deposit Grin but that in the past, not for now. For now I have to set a withdrawal target before starting to play at least 100% of my deposit if in the end it is more than 100% then I will leave it in the account for the next game and make sure the first withdrawal has landed in your bank account, not in your crypto wallet if not, then there will be persuasion that always appears in your ears re-deposit re-deposit, Honestly, you experienced it, right?
copper member
Activity: 2310
Merit: 2133
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Oh man, I think it should be illegal, to be honest. It's like with cigarettes, you can't write  “light” and “low tar” on the boxes since some point in the past, because it creates an illusion that some tobacco products are safer than others while all of them are dangerous and addictive. I lost more than $100 on this slot collecting dozens of those balls to no avail. I'd rather have regular symbols on the reels instead of those balls.
Yeah, it's important to do some research first (at least read the information section) before making an assumption. But, in reality, most of the players won't open the info section, worse, they even don't know the RTP and stuff. From legal PoV, I think they will state that they are honest with the game specification, even though it's slightly hidden. So it's completely fine IMO (Disclaimer: I'm not a law expert). We did this kind of mistake, so no sweat, just learn from it Grin

Tell me little, in my opinion, slot games on local fiat sites are very different from crypto gambling sites.
Last night I tried playing slots on two gambling sites, first on local site which has a feature that shows the RTP and in the Starlight Princess game there is fairly high RTP, namely 95
Each casino is unique, so you should always open the info section to make sure you play on the highest RTP.
95% RTP for Starlight Princess is not the highest, IIRC it should be 96.5%.

The two popular RTPs for starlight are 96.5% and 94.5% from my experience... I never tasted the 95% variant.
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 2112
Stand with Ukraine
and I mistakenly thought that when the jar is full you are immediately getting free spins or something. But when nothing like that happened, and I kept playing and adding new balls to the full jars, I think I've figured out what the progression is. With collecting balls you are just increasing your chance of getting free spins from, say, 0.1% to 0.2%. Your chance is still very slim, but it's true that it keeps increasing with every new ball collected.
From the info (i) section, it's clear that there's no such progression... the jar is only for cosmetics since the feature spin will be triggered randomly upon the collection of the candies. IMO this cosmetic thingy is like the Caishen series when the pot keeps getting filled when you collect wild symbols, but by no means it will increase the chance of triggering feature spins. Thus, you get this feeling of a 0.1% to 0.2% increase in probability simply because you are playing more and longer. I mean it's like a gambling fallacy when you feel that you'll trigger the feature spin if you keep playing...

If the candy jar is used in progression mechanics, it will 100% reset after you change your base bet.
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Oh man, I think it should be illegal, to be honest. It's like with cigarettes, you can't write  “light” and “low tar” on the boxes since some point in the past, because it creates an illusion that some tobacco products are safer than others while all of them are dangerous and addictive. I lost more than $100 on this slot collecting dozens of those balls to no avail. I'd rather have regular symbols on the reels instead of those balls.
hero member
Activity: 1260
Merit: 503
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
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Yeah, as far as I can tell the VPN restriction is to ensure that the gambler is from a country where the casino can provide a legal service.

If the identity of the person is provided, maybe they can use a VPN, but still I would be wary of using one, as they might be quick to say no to when you win something.

It's better to be safe than sorry with these things...
From all this it is clear that using VPN will not provide any benefits except for being able to access gambling sites when there are laws that prohibit gambling in the country where we live.
Indeed, it would be better to always avoid all forms of activity that could cause problems in the future, thinking about continuing to try to be safer in gambling is the thought of wise people and we must be able to do it.

Tell me little, in my opinion, slot games on local fiat sites are very different from crypto gambling sites.
Last night I tried playing slots on two gambling sites, first on local site which has a feature that shows the RTP and in the Starlight Princess game there is fairly high RTP, namely 95 and I played really well in every round.
Then I immediately switched to crypto site with the same game but the difference was very striking where the table fractions in each round were very bad but it was easier to get scatters, on local sites with good fractions it was very difficult to get scatters.
From here there are questions that suddenly arise in the mind.

Is it true that the provider is not centered on one manager, where the crypto site has different provider from the local site even though they are both pragmatic and in the same game, namely Starlight Princess?
From here, have you ever experienced the same thing and had the same thoughts as me?
sr. member
Activity: 2156
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why are you telling the truth, when playing slots at the beginning which is relaxing, step by step emotions will increase whether you are experiencing defeat or winning, and finally you raise your bet and everything runs out and you close the device, then imagine winning and the thing repeats itself again.

But now I can anticipate it I mean when I win big then I will move to another game we must realize the game will not give a continuous wins so when the game gives it once, we have to stop or move right? almost all of us understand about the theory but failed in practice Grin Oh yah, I just tried the new game Candy Jar Clusters  from 10 times the experiment only won once for me this is a bad game as a new game, he didn't even welcome me well, but it's normal because this game offers high multiplier up to10000 I don't advise you to try it unless you are ready to lose and sometimes the luck of each player is different.
Even because we feel like we want to win we use many sites, sometimes when we win on the first site we transfer it to another site and play and so on, maybe you know the final result, but sometimes it will work to get lucky, whatever strategy what we do in gambling the results will be the same, but we enjoy doing it
legendary
Activity: 3458
Merit: 1350


This is the special thing from Razor family slot by pushgaming, normal spin without free spins may give big multiplier.
Unfortunately my bet was $0.1 only because I started my session with $10 deposit only in sherbet to join the crash contest.
After I hit 50.90x for the contest I moved to slot and win this spin in just few spins, lucky me.
Withdraw my winning and sent it to other casino for other contest (coins.game) but lost it all without hitting hundreds multiplier LOL.

hero member
Activity: 952
Merit: 938
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Some casinos prohibit the use of VPN and some gamblers who live in countries with gambling restrictions rely solely on VPN to access the site.
But there are also some casinos that allow VPN users, but when accessing with VPN there will be many providers that cannot be accessed and of course gamblers will only have small choice of games for them to risk their money.
So far there has been no solution to problems like this where gamblers who use VPN can still access all existing providers.

The first and most important thing is that the country we live in is not prohibited country in the jurisdiction of the casino license and we must be able from the start to use casino that actually accepts VPN.
There no harm in asking the support team first about using VPN and I sure the support team can definitely provide the best solution for each customer.
If this is done and permission is given to use VPN, then we don't need to worry about big wins that we get in the future.

Yeah, as far as I can tell the VPN restriction is to ensure that the gambler is from a country where the casino can provide a legal service.

If the identity of the person is provided, maybe they can use a VPN, but still I would be wary of using one, as they might be quick to say no to when you win something.

It's better to be safe than sorry with these things...
hero member
Activity: 2870
Merit: 556
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Yep, slot machines are indeed a very brutal and surprising game, sometimes we don't get any wins even though we have spun hundreds of times or bought bonuses many times. But sometimes we can get bonuses and wins easily, even with capital of $10 we can win up to hundreds of USD

I also agree that currently it is very difficult for PP to get good wins, even to get back the purchase capital is very difficult, often we only get 20% or 30% of the purchase. I have felt this since many new slot machines were launched by PP, so I feel their old games have become very difficult to win, I prefer to play their new games, because sometimes I feel winning there is easier even if it's only a small win. I rarely play slots from hacksaw and have never gotten any wins there, it is very difficult to get a win there, slot machines from hacksaw are like a nightmare for me, like slot machines from no limit
That's why we must be very careful about using money to play slots because this game can drain all the money we have deposited. But with self-control and limits, we will only immediately use some of the money because we remember the limits and always try to stop ourselves before we experience even more losses. We can win easily, but it depends on the luck we have, and if that luck doesn't come when we are playing slots, we won't be able to win.

I often buy the bonus feature, but that doesn't help much when playing Pragmatic Play. Even if I repeat it three times or more, it doesn't guarantee I can win big. Indeed, PP launched many interesting slot games, and we can place bets at minimum bets, but if we are not careful, we will only lose more money. Playing Hacksaw is also the same as PP, where you can lose your money without getting a chance to win even a small win. This is why, when playing slots, we have to determine how many dollars we can use to prevent many losses.
hero member
Activity: 1260
Merit: 503
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
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Yeah, casinos need to ensure they only provide services to the people from countries they are legally allowed to.

People with VPNs cannot easily be traced to their original country, so it's hard for casinos to enforce their rules.

In the end, it's risky to use a VPN because if you win big they might actually do a check and if found that you used a VPN, especially from a country where they cannot provide the service, then you will be out of luck and get no money. And they would be allowed to do that.
Some casinos prohibit the use of VPN and some gamblers who live in countries with gambling restrictions rely solely on VPN to access the site.
But there are also some casinos that allow VPN users, but when accessing with VPN there will be many providers that cannot be accessed and of course gamblers will only have small choice of games for them to risk their money.
So far there has been no solution to problems like this where gamblers who use VPN can still access all existing providers.

The first and most important thing is that the country we live in is not prohibited country in the jurisdiction of the casino license and we must be able from the start to use casino that actually accepts VPN.
There no harm in asking the support team first about using VPN and I sure the support team can definitely provide the best solution for each customer.
If this is done and permission is given to use VPN, then we don't need to worry about big wins that we get in the future.
sr. member
Activity: 868
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Haha that's easy logic mate, when they have the original version with a maximum multiplier of 5000x and provide a new version with a maximum multiplier of 15000x meaning the difficulty level is 3x higher it is an easy logic that we can understand. I have tried all these games and I do not recommend you to play them unless you understand that the risks are higher than Hacksaw games, I think Pragmatic provides this game to fulfill the desires of gamblers who like to hunt for high winnings and we know that high win hunters will prefer to play at Hacksaw and Nolimit City providers rather than Pragmatic but now the Pragmatic provider want to take part from there, if I owned Pragmatic then I would do the same  Cheesy
I feel that currently most pragmatic games seems to be harder to win big, not only the new ones with higher max multiplier but also the old ones with 5000x max win. Maybe I'm just unlucky or maybe my luck is ended in Pragmatic since I had better luck few years back at the early stage when they have just released Gates of Olympus. I would say that to hunt higher multiplier is better to play hacksaw or push gaming than the new games by pragmatic.
Winning large amounts of winnings from the Pragmatic provider is very difficult. I tried to avoid it for a while because of the difficulty of getting the big multiplier. But I think in the last few months, there has been a change in many slot providers. Previously, I could win from the Play'N Go provider, but now I can't win even though I tried playing it for up to 300 spins.

I also feel this from slot providers Hacksaw or Push Games. But we realize that this slot game requires luck to get a big multiplier that can give us big wins. And I think slot game fans will continue to try it because they still want to hunt for big wins from big multipliers.

Yep, slot machines are indeed a very brutal and surprising game, sometimes we don't get any wins even though we have spun hundreds of times or bought bonuses many times. But sometimes we can get bonuses and wins easily, even with capital of $10 we can win up to hundreds of USD

I also agree that currently it is very difficult for PP to get good wins, even to get back the purchase capital is very difficult, often we only get 20% or 30% of the purchase. I have felt this since many new slot machines were launched by PP, so I feel their old games have become very difficult to win, I prefer to play their new games, because sometimes I feel winning there is easier even if it's only a small win. I rarely play slots from hacksaw and have never gotten any wins there, it is very difficult to get a win there, slot machines from hacksaw are like a nightmare for me, like slot machines from no limit
hero member
Activity: 2870
Merit: 556
Haha that's easy logic mate, when they have the original version with a maximum multiplier of 5000x and provide a new version with a maximum multiplier of 15000x meaning the difficulty level is 3x higher it is an easy logic that we can understand. I have tried all these games and I do not recommend you to play them unless you understand that the risks are higher than Hacksaw games, I think Pragmatic provides this game to fulfill the desires of gamblers who like to hunt for high winnings and we know that high win hunters will prefer to play at Hacksaw and Nolimit City providers rather than Pragmatic but now the Pragmatic provider want to take part from there, if I owned Pragmatic then I would do the same  Cheesy
I feel that currently most pragmatic games seems to be harder to win big, not only the new ones with higher max multiplier but also the old ones with 5000x max win. Maybe I'm just unlucky or maybe my luck is ended in Pragmatic since I had better luck few years back at the early stage when they have just released Gates of Olympus. I would say that to hunt higher multiplier is better to play hacksaw or push gaming than the new games by pragmatic.
Winning large amounts of winnings from the Pragmatic provider is very difficult. I tried to avoid it for a while because of the difficulty of getting the big multiplier. But I think in the last few months, there has been a change in many slot providers. Previously, I could win from the Play'N Go provider, but now I can't win even though I tried playing it for up to 300 spins.

I also feel this from slot providers Hacksaw or Push Games. But we realize that this slot game requires luck to get a big multiplier that can give us big wins. And I think slot game fans will continue to try it because they still want to hunt for big wins from big multipliers.
legendary
Activity: 3024
Merit: 1308
Haha that's easy logic mate, when they have the original version with a maximum multiplier of 5000x and provide a new version with a maximum multiplier of 15000x meaning the difficulty level is 3x higher it is an easy logic that we can understand. I have tried all these games and I do not recommend you to play them unless you understand that the risks are higher than Hacksaw games, I think Pragmatic provides this game to fulfill the desires of gamblers who like to hunt for high winnings and we know that high win hunters will prefer to play at Hacksaw and Nolimit City providers rather than Pragmatic but now the Pragmatic provider want to take part from there, if I owned Pragmatic then I would do the same  Cheesy
I feel that currently most pragmatic games seems to be harder to win big, not only the new ones with higher max multiplier but also the old ones with 5000x max win. Maybe I'm just unlucky or maybe my luck is ended in Pragmatic since I had better luck few years back at the early stage when they have just released Gates of Olympus. I would say that to hunt higher multiplier is better to play hacksaw or push gaming than the new games by pragmatic.

The question is whether Pragmatic has succeeded in attracting users' attention by releasing games with high multipliers? the answer is YES On stake.com we can see how many users are playing the game and when this post was made, the total active players were 564 that's more than active players on the original versions of  Olympus and Sweet Bonanza as the most popular game from the Pragmatic provider. Honestly I would avoid games from Pragmatic that provide multipliers over 10000x I had a lot of bad experiences there, except just for fun and just curiosity with low bets.
The current on going promotion Stake vs Eddie where players need to beat the multiplier in this game may also affect the number of players who play this game. Lets see when the promotion end, will the number of players remain the same of will be decreased a lot.
legendary
Activity: 2884
Merit: 1155
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Do you guys think that the "1000" version of Starlight Princess is successful upgrade by Pragmatic so they released another "1000" version for the Gates of Olympus? I tried it with normal spins both with the double chance and non double chance for around 600 spins and 15 buy bonus, here is the best result I got:
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/12/20/ExBBZ.png
The best is 333x only and it came from bonus buy, I feel it harder to win big multiplier in this 1000 version. The same as I experienced when I tried the Starlight Princess 1000. The best multiplier when I played with normal spins was no more than 100x so above image is all win from bonus buy. Even using double chance seems to be not giving difference as the free spins is still rare to come.

Haha that's easy logic mate, when they have the original version with a maximum multiplier of 5000x and provide a new version with a maximum multiplier of 15000x meaning the difficulty level is 3x higher it is an easy logic that we can understand. I have tried all these games and I do not recommend you to play them unless you understand that the risks are higher than Hacksaw games, I think Pragmatic provides this game to fulfill the desires of gamblers who like to hunt for high winnings and we know that high win hunters will prefer to play at Hacksaw and Nolimit City providers rather than Pragmatic but now the Pragmatic provider want to take part from there, if I owned Pragmatic then I would do the same  Cheesy

The question is whether Pragmatic has succeeded in attracting users' attention by releasing games with high multipliers? the answer is YES On stake.com we can see how many users are playing the game and when this post was made, the total active players were 564 that's more than active players on the original versions of  Olympus and Sweet Bonanza as the most popular game from the Pragmatic provider. Honestly I would avoid games from Pragmatic that provide multipliers over 10000x I had a lot of bad experiences there, except just for fun and just curiosity with low bets.
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