Topic: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) - page 8. (Read 26422 times)

Yeah, many gamblers simply bet based on their gut feeling, and that might actually sometimes be the best way of doing it.

The thing is that you can get all the odds, calculations, etc, and still lose, and someone that just bets on a hunch wins. Or vice-versa. It's just luck.

Moving winnings from the previous casino to another casino and gambling again will not always result in winnings. Therefore, if we win from a casino, we should immediately stop gambling and leave the casino after we withdraw the winnings. When we win, our minds will tell us to continue gambling, either keep playing at that casino or move to another casino, but that's what usually happens. Most gamblers experience this, including me, and I also used to do what you do. But after experiencing a big loss I never imagined, I learned to restrain myself, especially after winning. I now prefer to leave the casino and if I can win above the minimum withdrawal limit, I will withdraw the winnings and leave the casino.

I also do it when I feel it is my lucky day and it's true that sometimes it works, the mistake we most often make is taking the wrong moment when we win somehow it's very difficult to stop instantly our brain thinks this must be 10x but in fact this is the 10th deposit but that in the past, not for now. For now I have to set a withdrawal target before starting to play at least 100% of my deposit if in the end it is more than 100% then I will leave it in the account for the next game and make sure the first withdrawal has landed in your bank account, not in your crypto wallet if not, then there will be persuasion that always appears in your ears re-deposit re-deposit, Honestly, you experienced it, right?

Yeah, it's important to do some research first (at least read the information section) before making an assumption. But, in reality, most of the players won't open the info section, worse, they even don't know the RTP and stuff. From legal PoV, I think they will state that they are honest with the game specification, even though it's slightly hidden. So it's completely fine IMO (Disclaimer: I'm not a law expert). We did this kind of mistake, so no sweat, just learn from it

Each casino is unique, so you should always open the info section to make sure you play on the highest RTP.
95% RTP for Starlight Princess is not the highest, IIRC it should be 96.5%.

The two popular RTPs for starlight are 96.5% and 94.5% from my experience... I never tasted the 95% variant.

Oh man, I think it should be illegal, to be honest. It's like with cigarettes, you can't write  “light” and “low tar” on the boxes since some point in the past, because it creates an illusion that some tobacco products are safer than others while all of them are dangerous and addictive. I lost more than $100 on this slot collecting dozens of those balls to no avail. I'd rather have regular symbols on the reels instead of those balls.

From all this it is clear that using VPN will not provide any benefits except for being able to access gambling sites when there are laws that prohibit gambling in the country where we live.
Indeed, it would be better to always avoid all forms of activity that could cause problems in the future, thinking about continuing to try to be safer in gambling is the thought of wise people and we must be able to do it.

Tell me little, in my opinion, slot games on local fiat sites are very different from crypto gambling sites.
Last night I tried playing slots on two gambling sites, first on local site which has a feature that shows the RTP and in the Starlight Princess game there is fairly high RTP, namely 95 and I played really well in every round.
Then I immediately switched to crypto site with the same game but the difference was very striking where the table fractions in each round were very bad but it was easier to get scatters, on local sites with good fractions it was very difficult to get scatters.
From here there are questions that suddenly arise in the mind.

Is it true that the provider is not centered on one manager, where the crypto site has different provider from the local site even though they are both pragmatic and in the same game, namely Starlight Princess?
From here, have you ever experienced the same thing and had the same thoughts as me?

Even because we feel like we want to win we use many sites, sometimes when we win on the first site we transfer it to another site and play and so on, maybe you know the final result, but sometimes it will work to get lucky, whatever strategy what we do in gambling the results will be the same, but we enjoy doing it

This is the special thing from Razor family slot by pushgaming, normal spin without free spins may give big multiplier.
Unfortunately my bet was $0.1 only because I started my session with $10 deposit only in sherbet to join the crash contest.
After I hit 50.90x for the contest I moved to slot and win this spin in just few spins, lucky me.
Withdraw my winning and sent it to other casino for other contest (coins.game) but lost it all without hitting hundreds multiplier LOL.

Yeah, as far as I can tell the VPN restriction is to ensure that the gambler is from a country where the casino can provide a legal service.

If the identity of the person is provided, maybe they can use a VPN, but still I would be wary of using one, as they might be quick to say no to when you win something.

It's better to be safe than sorry with these things...

That's why we must be very careful about using money to play slots because this game can drain all the money we have deposited. But with self-control and limits, we will only immediately use some of the money because we remember the limits and always try to stop ourselves before we experience even more losses. We can win easily, but it depends on the luck we have, and if that luck doesn't come when we are playing slots, we won't be able to win.

I often buy the bonus feature, but that doesn't help much when playing Pragmatic Play. Even if I repeat it three times or more, it doesn't guarantee I can win big. Indeed, PP launched many interesting slot games, and we can place bets at minimum bets, but if we are not careful, we will only lose more money. Playing Hacksaw is also the same as PP, where you can lose your money without getting a chance to win even a small win. This is why, when playing slots, we have to determine how many dollars we can use to prevent many losses.

Some casinos prohibit the use of VPN and some gamblers who live in countries with gambling restrictions rely solely on VPN to access the site.
But there are also some casinos that allow VPN users, but when accessing with VPN there will be many providers that cannot be accessed and of course gamblers will only have small choice of games for them to risk their money.
So far there has been no solution to problems like this where gamblers who use VPN can still access all existing providers.

The first and most important thing is that the country we live in is not prohibited country in the jurisdiction of the casino license and we must be able from the start to use casino that actually accepts VPN.
There no harm in asking the support team first about using VPN and I sure the support team can definitely provide the best solution for each customer.
If this is done and permission is given to use VPN, then we don't need to worry about big wins that we get in the future.

Yep, slot machines are indeed a very brutal and surprising game, sometimes we don't get any wins even though we have spun hundreds of times or bought bonuses many times. But sometimes we can get bonuses and wins easily, even with capital of $10 we can win up to hundreds of USD

I also agree that currently it is very difficult for PP to get good wins, even to get back the purchase capital is very difficult, often we only get 20% or 30% of the purchase. I have felt this since many new slot machines were launched by PP, so I feel their old games have become very difficult to win, I prefer to play their new games, because sometimes I feel winning there is easier even if it's only a small win. I rarely play slots from hacksaw and have never gotten any wins there, it is very difficult to get a win there, slot machines from hacksaw are like a nightmare for me, like slot machines from no limit

Winning large amounts of winnings from the Pragmatic provider is very difficult. I tried to avoid it for a while because of the difficulty of getting the big multiplier. But I think in the last few months, there has been a change in many slot providers. Previously, I could win from the Play'N Go provider, but now I can't win even though I tried playing it for up to 300 spins.

I also feel this from slot providers Hacksaw or Push Games. But we realize that this slot game requires luck to get a big multiplier that can give us big wins. And I think slot game fans will continue to try it because they still want to hunt for big wins from big multipliers.

I feel that currently most pragmatic games seems to be harder to win big, not only the new ones with higher max multiplier but also the old ones with 5000x max win. Maybe I'm just unlucky or maybe my luck is ended in Pragmatic since I had better luck few years back at the early stage when they have just released Gates of Olympus. I would say that to hunt higher multiplier is better to play hacksaw or push gaming than the new games by pragmatic.

The current on going promotion Stake vs Eddie where players need to beat the multiplier in this game may also affect the number of players who play this game. Lets see when the promotion end, will the number of players remain the same of will be decreased a lot.

Haha that's easy logic mate, when they have the original version with a maximum multiplier of 5000x and provide a new version with a maximum multiplier of 15000x meaning the difficulty level is 3x higher it is an easy logic that we can understand. I have tried all these games and I do not recommend you to play them unless you understand that the risks are higher than Hacksaw games, I think Pragmatic provides this game to fulfill the desires of gamblers who like to hunt for high winnings and we know that high win hunters will prefer to play at Hacksaw and Nolimit City providers rather than Pragmatic but now the Pragmatic provider want to take part from there, if I owned Pragmatic then I would do the same 

The question is whether Pragmatic has succeeded in attracting users' attention by releasing games with high multipliers? the answer is YES On stake.com we can see how many users are playing the game and when this post was made, the total active players were 564 that's more than active players on the original versions of  Olympus and Sweet Bonanza as the most popular game from the Pragmatic provider. Honestly I would avoid games from Pragmatic that provide multipliers over 10000x I had a lot of bad experiences there, except just for fun and just curiosity with low bets.

Do you guys think that the "1000" version of Starlight Princess is successful upgrade by Pragmatic so they released another "1000" version for the Gates of Olympus? I tried it with normal spins both with the double chance and non double chance for around 600 spins and 15 buy bonus, here is the best result I got:

The best is 333x only and it came from bonus buy, I feel it harder to win big multiplier in this 1000 version. The same as I experienced when I tried the Starlight Princess 1000. The best multiplier when I played with normal spins was no more than 100x so above image is all win from bonus buy. Even using double chance seems to be not giving difference as the free spins is still rare to come.

Yeah, the actual odds and mechanics of the game should be the same in both cases.

But as you mentioned, the emotion that the gambler feels is way different when playing with real money.

When the gambler just wins "fake points" then nothing really exciting happens, if anything the gambler would be annoyed that he didn't play with real money.

And when they lose those "fake points" then also nothing happens because the gambler doesn't feel the loss of real money.

In the end, if it was the same, most gamblers would simply play with "fake points", but in reality it is the idea of getting rich that makes gambling interesting.

But now I can anticipate it I mean when I win big then I will move to another game we must realize the game will not give a continuous wins so when the game gives it once, we have to stop or move right? almost all of us understand about the theory but failed in practice Oh yah, I just tried the new game Candy Jar Clusters  from 10 times the experiment only won once for me this is a bad game as a new game, he didn't even welcome me well, but it's normal because this game offers high multiplier up to10000 I don't advise you to try it unless you are ready to lose and sometimes the luck of each player is different.

Oh I don't know guys I Tried Directly start demon in stake.com and the pragmatic website both give me big win. even my friend tried it too. maybe the only reason is like @panjul07 said that is because demo account or like @mu_enrico said that maybe we can get easy profit with 100K balance

I believe the RTP is the same between demo and real mode... The big difference is the user's balance. It's way easier to profit if you have a $100K balance compared to, let's say, $100 in real play. For example, after I lost 10 times buying bonuses @$20 in the demo, I'd start buying with @$100, and so on, after that, I would 99% end up in profit before I got tired—the 1% of the time I left the game not because of I wasted all my balance, but simply got bored/tired. But keep in mind your profit will be small, compared to your $100k balance.

The same scenario can be applied when you, let's say, deposit IDR 2 million and do IDR 20K bonus buys. It's easier to get small profits because you can do enough spin to feel the volatility.