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Topic: SmartHashing.us -> Gridseed Accessories For Sale & Hosting News/Discussion - page 5. (Read 11657 times)

hero member
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Coinhoarder are you planning on using your forum?
hero member
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Holy cow! I hadn't checked on the old GB thread in a while, and I completely missed this transformation into SmartHashing -- a great project, congratulations CH!
newbie
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Hi all,

We're happy to report all problems with the hosted equipment were knocked out last night and the farm has been running stable for over 24 hours. Also, we were also able to secure better pricing for the Gridseed ASICs from our original supplier and all Gridseed ASIC sales have been resumed. Our prices have been adjusted accordingly and we think you will find them very competitive. Let us know if you have any questions. To place an order, please visit our website: smarthashing.us

Edit: old pricing, see OP

We're happy to see some of the first retail orders making their way to their new homes. Let us know if we can be of any assistance if you have trouble getting up and running. It helps to order a Pi from the web store so everything comes pre-configured.

Thanks!
newbie
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Received my 24 pack of gridseeds with accessories a day earlier than expected. Running half off the Pi and half off a laptop using windows 7. everything working great. had to mod the mini usb cables just a bit to fit correctly, but it took all of 5 minutes.

Each hashing at 361 out of the box. sweet! Thanks smarthashing!

Thanks very much for your order, let us know if there's anything else we can do!
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Received my 24 pack of gridseeds with accessories a day earlier than expected. Running half off the Pi and half off a laptop using windows 7. everything working great. had to mod the mini usb cables just a bit to fit correctly, but it took all of 5 minutes.

Each hashing at 361 out of the box. sweet! Thanks smarthashing!
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There are still 15 Gridseeds in stock, this will be all we have for a while so get 'em while we got 'em.


Easy Mining Update:

It seems we have an unstable rig. I am trying to narrow it down to which one it is, you will notice on coinshift our rigs are being separated into workers according to the color of their rapsberry pi's case. Smiley

So... we have teal, clear, and naked (poor guy doesn't have a case!) Edit: Naked was the culprit, changing out the Pi to see if it has any affect.. if not, I will separate its hubs in between two Pis. He has been replaced by 'white'.

All easy mode miners are mining on three pis with 24 to 27 gridseeds each.

I just got some more Pis in today, so I will try separating the trouble rig into two rigs to see if that helps any if my original plan doesn't work. My original plan consists of simply re-imaging the SD card and seeing how it works.

2nd Edit: All up and running fine now. Faulty USB hubs were at play. Those cheap ones don't work worth a crap. Luckily I got 10 more Rosewills in the mail today and replaced the hubs and wa lah. All is good again! It is odd though sometimes the cheap hubs work and sometimes they don't. It's hit or miss I guess. The rosewill hubs work awesome with Pis though.. no problems at all! Pushing 27-30 Mh in easy mode. Smiley

I really hate to be "that guy", but ..... any update on those refunds?  Grin I know you said you'd have them out last weekend and I realize you had a really busy one with getting this setup - I can appreciate that. Just wondering if there's any date set for sending them out.
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There are still 15 Gridseeds in stock, this will be all we have for a while so get 'em while we got 'em.


Easy Mining Update:

It seems we have an unstable rig. I am trying to narrow it down to which one it is, you will notice on coinshift our rigs are being separated into workers according to the color of their rapsberry pi's case. Smiley

So... we have teal, clear, and naked (poor guy doesn't have a case!) Edit: Naked was the culprit, changing out the Pi to see if it has any affect.. if not, I will separate its hubs in between two Pis. He has been replaced by 'white'.

All easy mode miners are mining on three pis with 24 to 27 gridseeds each.

I just got some more Pis in today, so I will try separating the trouble rig into two rigs to see if that helps any if my original plan doesn't work. My original plan consists of simply re-imaging the SD card and seeing how it works.

2nd Edit: All up and running fine now. Faulty USB hubs were at play. Those cheap ones don't work worth a crap. Luckily I got 10 more Rosewills in the mail today and replaced the hubs and wa lah. All is good again! It is odd though sometimes the cheap hubs work and sometimes they don't. It's hit or miss I guess. The rosewill hubs work awesome with Pis though.. no problems at all! Pushing 27-30 Mh in easy mode. Smiley
legendary
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Sure, I'll PM you my personal email.

Thanks
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By the way, if you didn't read the wall of texts above, we are suspending pre-orders of the Gridseed ASICs. Accessories still for sale.

There are 15 available in stock in the store, hosted or not, but that will be it for a little bit.

Thanks

PS: Lazy hosting guys.. I was tinkering around in the farm again today, sorry for the bit of down time. I rearranged some things and fixed a couple units.. a couple bad usb cables etc. It seems we have one RMA, which I will receive a refund for. That will go towards mining income.

CH, can you provide lazy hosting guys with an alternate contact method (e-mail, reddit, etc.)? As you can see, bitcointalk is not always reliable and I would feel more comfortable having another way to reach you.
legendary
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By the way, if you didn't read the wall of texts above, we are suspending pre-orders of the Gridseed ASICs. Accessories still for sale.

There are 15 available in stock in the store, hosted or not, but that will be it for a little bit.

Thanks

PS: Lazy hosting guys.. I was tinkering around in the farm again today, sorry for the bit of down time. I rearranged some things and fixed a couple units.. a couple bad usb cables etc. It seems we have one RMA, which I will receive a refund for. That will go towards mining income.
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Available now in the store. Please allow 3 business days until we can ship, these are made by hand and it takes almost a hour to make one PCIe cable!!

The sleeving for the larger part was the wrong size, so heat shrink will be used instead until that gets here- as pictured.

Gridseed Scrypt ATX PCIe Adapter: Can power 12 Gridseeds in Scrypt mode
http://i.imgur.com/2aq7nML.jpg

Gridseed Scrypt ATX Molex Adapter: Can power 4 Gridseeds in Scrypt mode and 4 accessories (USB hubs, can be altered to run Pi, etc.)
http://i.imgur.com/7XwEReq.jpg

Warning:
1. Do not use the PCIe adapter on a 8 pin CPU aka. EPS power connector from your PSU. Yes it will fit, but you will fry your Gridseeds. The EPS power adapters will have orange heat shrink and the PCIe adapters will have black heat shrink so you can tell the difference. Furthermore, PCIe adapters only have 12 barrel plugs whereas EPS adapters have 16 barrel plugs.
2. Yellow heat shrink = Gridseed barrel plug & Orange (future versions will be red.. we ordered the wrong color) Heat Shrink = USB Hubs or 5v accessories
3. The 8 pin PCIe adapter also works with a 6 pin PCIe power cable. Just make sure to plug it into the right side. The difference inbetween an 8 pin PCIe and a 6 pin PCIe is that the 6 pin PCIe has two less ground wires (the black ones). So, when plugging in the Y adapter look for these extra grounds and plug the connector into the opposite side leaving the extra black grounds unconnected.
4. Scrypt mode only for these cables!! New cables will be here soon for dual mining!
newbie
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So who's part of the smarthashing team?

Coinhoarder I thought you had a day job also?

Did you add a female to the team?

I've been getting some of my family and friends to help on an as needed basis. My friend is the only buddy I've known for a long time that is also into crypto. He is very smart and knows his way around computers and programming. He is pretty useful. My family helps me do things like assemble coins for cryptovest, they started recently answeing some emails and PMs, and also making some of these awesome cables I'm about to post pictures of. I would prefer they take over shipping, etc. too, as they helped me out a lot with that when I was selling coins with CryptoVest.

The problem is I can't afford much help right now.. I mean I only received 3 orders last week and they were mostly quite small for 1 unit! It's hard for me to compete with the larger Gridseed suppliers, so it is what it is. It's funny that you mention it, I do need to go back to my day job for a while due to lack of sales. I had enthusiastic intentions when starting this venture that it would do OK enough to take a break from work for a while. Let's just say that I'm not making the bills. This venture somewhat falling on its face reminded me that I do have a good job that I do not want to lose, so I better get back to it. This will remain a part time venture for me in the near term future. I am determined to press on though, I'm locked into a rental agreement so I will continue to make this work part time.

We are not going anywhere, we will be hosting the Gridseeds that are already sold and finishing out customer's orders. We will still have Gridseed accessories for sale in the store (we will likely have a big sale on them soon). We are going to regroup, and we will get back to providing mining equipment sales and hosting for good prices shortly. Look at this as just a slight pause.
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So who's part of the smarthashing team?

Coinhoarder I thought you had a day job also?

Did you add a female to the team?
newbie
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Thanks for the updates. Since we are hashing now

- How Often will be the payments for the Easy Mining Asics, and how you would calculate them.
- I haven't set or been asked for any BTC address for the payments, should I send it to you via PM or you are going to make some kind of a page within smarthashing for the Easy Mining users.

We were planning on sending out payments once a month, however we would rather everyone have their own pool account- that way you get paid from mining instantly (depending on the pool you choose) and we are not liable for your money. Instead of taking hosting fees out of the miner's income, it would be paid monthly by each client. We are looking into getting some sort of interface that would allow you to change pools, request that your units be sold and the funds forwarded, and pay hosting fees and keep track of them. If the hosting fees aren't paid, we will need to switch your units over to our pool to pay them and we will contact you whether you want to end the hosting arrangement, sell your units, or keep going with us!

Honestly the web interface is kind of a long ways off, but it is something we are working towards. For now everyone that ordered in Batch 1 & 2 will share the same pool account. Your orders arrived within a couple days of each other and were all setup and running relatively at the same time seeing as though there were some issues the first day or so. We will request your BTC addresses soon if you haven't submitted it already. We're not sure there's much of a point in sending out a payment for a few days of mining, but if you guys want it we will do it. Otherwise, we were planning on waiting until the end of April. It will be like: [ (Number of easy mining ASICs) / (Total income of all easy mining asics) ] x (Number of units you have hosted). This way down time on one certain unit is shared by the group. We're not quite sure what we're going to do with failing equipment, but we don't feel like it's fair to say to someone "sorry, a unit burned up.. you're the unlucky one that has to take the hit." That just doesn't seem right, so pooling all easy hosted mining units together seems like the sensible thing to do.
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Received USPS tracking for 24 pack with accessories today! Can't wait to get them!
legendary
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Thanks for the updates. Since we are hashing now

- How Often will be the payments for the Easy Mining Asics, and how you would calculate them.
- I haven't set or been asked for any BTC address for the payments, should I send it to you via PM or you are going to make some kind of a page within smarthashing for the Easy Mining users.
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I would like to get a set of 10 units gridseedminers including accesories shipping to EU. How much will it cost including shipping .Can you please pm me your best offer. Thanks
legendary
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Hey Fedge,

I understand where you're coming from. Let me explain the decision on the PSUs.

- Although they are a bit cheaper than the top of the line PSUs, this PSU has very good customer ratings
- The power savings from a bronze rated PSU compared to a gold rated PSU is minimal
- In my experience the top of the line PSUs are simply overpriced compared to what you can get on the next tier down
- This PSU can run a lot of amperage on the 12v lines which is good for running a lot of Gridseeds.. almost the whole PSUs wattage can be pulled from the 12v lines.

My buddy, who is a gaming enthusiast, was helping me setup had never heard of Kingwin either. After setting these up and looking at them in person he said he was going to buy these for his next PC build- he was that impressed. Although they may not be top of the line super expensive PSUs, I feel like they are pretty good quality. Definately a step up from the cheapo industrial regulated PSUs other Gridseed suppliers are using.

I usually use metal wire shelves, but I was trying to save a buck. I may end up replacing those all together and just using them for boxes of accessories etc. It is actually plastic shelving, and as you can see in the pictures the shelves are not completely even which caused some of the towers of Gridseeds to kind of lean to one side or another. They have been running for more than 24-48 hours now and have not moved much, so I think they are fine stability wise, but if I need to troubleshoot or move something around it's going to be a PITA. So... I agree with you the shelving could use an upgrade.

Yes.. with so many wires it's hard to organize everything! After setting everything up it has allowed me to get a better idea of how to do it better. I will definitely be organizing everything a bit more.

We have another busy day ahead of us! All of our ATX power cables are made by hand, so we are going to get together and bang a bunch of them out so that we have a small stockpile. Making the cables is the most time consuming part of getting a package together and setting up the hosted equipment, so it will be nice to have a lot of them made!

Thanks & take care,

Will

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You don't want to cheap out on the power supplies.  Never ever ever.  My father used to work for IBM as a hdd test frame builder/designer.  The power supplies they got to run those 24/7 testers were the best they could budget for to make sure they never had to debug bad power.

I am going to use a used corsair psu on my set up, until I get a new one and test it out for stability.  I read a lot of stories online about burn outs from the cheaper psu that others were using.  That is too much of a risk on investment.  Some people lost the whole farm... maybe those users can't wire up a light bulb and that was the problem.  We have all made stupid assembly mistakes.  I recently wrecked hardware having a screw out of alignment with the video cards. I would suggest group buys stay away from those psu.  Doing the atx route is safer for the customer in the end--supply a decent set of hookup cables and let the customer get their psu inline themselves.

I would suggest those metal racks with mfd shelves that go together with slotted tabs (found at menards and lowels for about 50 to 60 usd) hold way more weight per shelf and you can bolt them to the wall so no boob tips them over.  I used them for fish tank racks and they never collapsed with 300llb of water weight on each shelf. I did upgrade the wood to 3/4" plywood wrapped in plastic to prevent water damage.  Maybe ditch the wood shelfs and just run a wire lattice in the metal frame to cradle all the gridseed in rows so they are easier to swap out for maintenance.  Eventually you will need to figure out where gridseed 2000 is if it fails.  I see some people spending as much on the racks as the servers they go into.. not necessary.

I don't envy the wire management problem.  with my small order it will be easier than that farm.
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Current Deals:
- 20 Gridseeds with no accessories - Straight from China to you in 3 to 5 days - $3,599.99
- In stock Gridseeds with no accessories - Can be hosted or not, please specify when ordering - $184.99
- Gridseed with no accessory pre-order - Please allow 3-5 business days before we are able to ship to you - $174.99

Random News:
- We will ship internationally, just contact us with what you want and we will give you a quote. Shipping is complicated to setup in the store and our margins are very low, so shipping needs to be exact or else we just paid for you to acquire equipment.
- We take Paypal on a case by case scenario, please make sure you have a verified shipping address, then contact us with what you're interested in.
- All of Batch 1 & 2 is shipped or hosted.
- We made a slight error when setting up the Easy mode farm at first- CoinHoarder had been up something like 30+ hours straight setting up the farm and accidentally put some units on the wrong pool. This will explain the drop in hash power from yesterday to today.
- There are currently 155 Gridseeds being hosted at our location.
- Our prices might go up in the near future- or we might start charging for shipping.. one of the two. We're hardly breaking even on some items after expenses and shipping, even losing money in some cases. With the amount of work this is taking, our profit needs to be worthwhile. We could all go get a job flipping burgers and we'd be making about the same as we are doing this- and it would be A LOT less stressful! We kept the cost of hosted units low for a while for hosting space to fill up to cover our expenses, but that is becoming less of a necessity with every order. Again, order now if you're thinking about doing it soon as all prices are subject to change.
- As promised... picture time!

*blushes at the mess of wires and leaning towers of Gridseeds*

Our main priority the past few days has been getting all Gridseeds up and running. We're happy to report all Batch 1 & 2 Gridseeds are currently hosted or shipped!!! Our next focus will be organizing the farm including the layout and all of the wires. We will do this on a rig by rig scenario, so as little downtime as possible is had by all.

Please note: That power cables and USB hubs we ship out to customers are nicer than some of the ones we are using for hosted units. We bought a big box of really cheap USB hubs, so if one malfunctions we can simply replace it. Since our customers won't have that luxury we use quality Rosewill USB hubs for our retail orders, and also the ATX power cables that ship out will have heat shrinked connections and cable sleeves.

When the lights go out:
http://i.imgur.com/mdMTFRy.png

The whole farm (well... most of it):
http://i.imgur.com/g8Y62WP.png

Wholesale Gridseed boxes:
http://i.imgur.com/ubvXj3E.png

Top Shelf:
http://i.imgur.com/C8vlyGD.png

Next Shelf:
http://i.imgur.com/s4ZHwkp.png

Next Shelf:
http://i.imgur.com/uMrWem8.png

Bottom Shelf:
http://i.imgur.com/gXqAHPs.jpg

There's even Gridseeds under the desk!!
http://i.imgur.com/PGEz4tK.png

Thanks to all for a great start! Even though it was frustrating at times, we enjoyed setting everything up! Please let us know if you have any problems or questions.

Thanks again,

The Smart Hashing Team
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