Topic: [SMAS] Signature Managers against Spam (light version) - page 24. (Read 100714 times)

You don't have to go that far, looking at you own signature space already provides an example.

So if english isn't my first language and I still am abled to write posts in a way that doesn't make native speakers start bleeding from their eyes,
am I really that wrong for expecting the same from users I am going to pay while writing posts on this forum?  

Word "scam" was only typing mistake. I understand difference.
I think problem is that some campaign managers don't care much about participants post quality. Like it was on Bitmixer campaign earlier. Users enrolls automatically and starts to spam without any control.

This sums up my feelings exactly, and when you combine posts that have very little thought put into them, very little content and that don't add anything to a thread with broken English, you get put on ignore.  Those posts are absolutely horrible.

And I respect polyglots fully.  But 85% of posts on this forum are garbage anyway.  Do you really think I want to spend a millisecond more than I have to, to try to decipher what's being said?  Absolutely not.  Reading posts by people who write English poorly is like listening to a broken signal on the radio.  It's maddening.  And no offense to people for whom English is not the first language, but I don't want to read something that's poorly written.  And I would say that some campaign managers' first language isn't English, but they write it pretty well.  And they aren't shitposters.

It's spam we're talking about. Scams are a whole other thing.

As long as other campaigns keep enrolling those members kicked from smas campaigns/listed on the smas banlist, they might continue to do so.
Our goal is not only to ban users from our own campaigns, but also to raise awareness. Ideally, other campaigns would adapt to the list or start maintaining their own.

Sorry, my bad. I support these actions against scam. But I don't think that SMAS will have affect to forum post quality. Removed users will join other campaigns (there are full of it, paying in altcoins) and will continue to spam. But it's better try to fight against them than don't do anything.

The rule is very clear, don't blame me if you can't properly interpret it:
Users have been abusing this because the campaign was unmanaged, and I have put a stop to this.

But look at Bitmixer.io campaign rules. There isn't mentioned that users who are making majority of their posts in local boards can be banned. So, why they were removed from campaign? Because campaign manager can't understand their language?

People who post primarily in native languages can be excluded from campaigns can be excluded from signature campaigns, because that might not be considered the target audience.
The problem only comes when they are labeled spammers... People may have problems with the terminology.

I've been enrolling users from and paying for posts written in the german sub section in the past.
I did this with Crypto-Games.net for a time and also during my time managing WhyFuture.
I could do so because my knowledge of the german language is sufficient to determine which posts are constructive and wich are not.
I wouldn't have done this with any other language I don't understand or I don't feel comfortable with.

Thanks. For both.

Im not disqualifying local posters from my campaigns guys. Im not saying all local posters are spammers either. I personally am about to hire 5-10 users to only post in certain local sections as requested by the owner.

What happens with alot of local board posters though, is they try to post in english sections. Its very hard to understand what some users post due to their broken english. A user who doesnt speak or type good english shouldnt be paid for their posting. It just looks terrible.

Most of the companies would love to have users posting in local sections and getting their advertisement seen by the whole world. Theyre not only looking for business from english speaking nations and theyre not discriminating.

The forum has sections outlined for almost every single language. If youre needed for a certain language then we( the managers) will post that we need xx amount of users that frequent the india board. Or whatever board we may need, but we do not need users applying for campaigns in english speaking boards from users that have very bad english.

Users want to bitch about how bad the forum looks, but when we try to make an effort to clean it up a little it seems like only more people get pissed off. Sorry but we feel our actions we are taking are correct and we will continue to try and do our part in cleaning up some of the trash.

All of you guys that seem to be butthurt over this or that happening can start placing the blame on some of your comrades. If non english speaking users or lazy english speaking users werent copypasting or looking only for a paycheck this shit wouldnt be happening.

Sorry, I don't get what you're saying.
The first part means "In my opinion", but what are you trying to say with the rest?

Ignoring spam doesn't remove it. Ignoring problems doesn't solve them. Things have been ignored for too long.

Spam can be many things, a short answer doesn't have to be spam and spam doesn't always come in the form of short posts.

No, that will get you banned for copy&pasting, no matter how good you're trying to hide it.

For my opinion, Must OP Mark then made some list? There like blaming "I'm Guess"
Simply, If you're have manage signature campaign, Then looking for people like hunt for take paid by "Signature Campaign" Just let it, Then not count this as valid. Participation must have long words for this? Then how about thead was take 100 Page opinion Then him repeat post have others, Just add a little words.  That's will be valid?
Right, I Aggre for this statement, But why we can't post "hello, good, nice, cool,thanks,loveyou,received,1BTC,10BTC" ? Or you will be soon as "SMAS" *LOL*

Where's the double standard in that? This is exactly what you're going to encounter pretty much everywhere outside of the countries in which English is the primary language: Non native English speakers judging your ability to speak English (school, certification, etc.). This solely depends on the skill level of the person doing the *judging* (or evaluation).

Isn't it funny how campaign managers who aren't native English speakers are judging other forum users' ability to write in fluent English? Because it's obvious who is and who isn't. I call this double standards.

For me, there are two types of spammers:
1) Those that spam with low quality posts in English (either repetitive content, posting in burst and such)
2) Abusing/breaking the rules since the counting and payment is automatic.
For Bitmixer campaign both go on the blacklist. Different campaigns would be treated differently obviously.

I'm pretty sure that this is not the case with SMAS (you could argue that it is for Bitmixer since counting is automatic). If these *other* managers were participating in a group project like this, that would severely cut down spam.

The second part is because the campaign only accepts Sr members and above.  I agree that some campaign managers (not necessarily in SMAS, not gonna name them) tend to marks a post as good without even trying to find if it has been said before in one way or another.

@Googlulinks
Being here longer doesn't make you right.  You obviously didn't know the rules.

Seems some managers struggle to comprehend English.
Anemed, copy paste history shitposting farmed account, accepted to (SMAS) campaign
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16769054

My "friend" bbc.reporter, real person, good posts, denied. (SMAS)

Are you talking to me ??

Edit: Ok Pharmacist. But this account is mine from the beginning, I did not pay for it. I have it for almost three years. I'm in the forum before you.


You: Date Registered:   March 21, 2015, 02:10:51 PM

Me: Date Registered:   June 25, 2014, 07:11:54 PM

 

Dude, here we go.  You are cosecushitposting where 1/2-1 shitpost will suffice.  How much did you pay for that account?

Glad to see action being taken.  I think anything is good at this point.

Belated congrats to Lutpin for leveling up to hero.

Edit:  Well you're the only one consecuposting here.  (Yes you, Googlulinks)

Okay, so why the campaign does not prohibit posts in other languages?