Can't believe I voted for this guy in 2004.
On that one, you got goxxed.
Topic: Snowden should 'man-up' and face trial: says SOS John Kerry - page 4. (Read 4186 times)
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Can't believe I voted for this guy in 2004.
On that one, you got goxxed.
But for many of us, those that have interest in new money and avoiding the coming relentless restraints place by the US govt inc, it's more beneficial to go to St. Kitts, Puerto Rico or some such place to escape the coming economic decline.
I have a strong feeling that these tax heavens (such as St Kitts) can turn to bear traps. These small island nations are ruled by proxy governments or puppets chosen by the United States. The US government won't be too happy, if large number of its citizens try to evade tax by taking St Kitts citizenship.
Issue should be government needs to stop being pepping tom. I feel totally unsecured having tons of naked photo of myself stored online and being seen by untrained eyes.
Not only will it weaken my self confident but it may cause long term psychological damage to those seeing it.
Not only will it weaken my self confident but it may cause long term psychological damage to those seeing it.
Kerry sounds like your typical sock puppet. Like back in the day when Karl Rove was running the government propaganda machine. You can bet someone now filling his shoes came up with that little piece of spin.
You can imagine in some backroom with a whiteboard, Conrad Brean is listening to Hollywood producer Stanley Motss ( Wag the Dog ) work out how the public discourse will be manipulated: "No, no, Conrad, no the issue is not about what Snowden exposed, no, its that he is a coward, the people do not like cowards Conrad. Hows that sounds? Good? Ok lets run an interview with whats his face Kerry's saying just that...oh and I think when he says it, he should be holding a kitten...".
That sort of thing.
You can imagine in some backroom with a whiteboard, Conrad Brean is listening to Hollywood producer Stanley Motss ( Wag the Dog ) work out how the public discourse will be manipulated: "No, no, Conrad, no the issue is not about what Snowden exposed, no, its that he is a coward, the people do not like cowards Conrad. Hows that sounds? Good? Ok lets run an interview with whats his face Kerry's saying just that...oh and I think when he says it, he should be holding a kitten...".
That sort of thing.
Kerry should 'man-up' and confess to treason with the rest of the sitting and past government officials.
In a sense it did make me wonder if enough people tried to kick them out of power if it would work in practice or if voter apathy helps to keep them not charged with any crimes.
It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes. Wolves don't eat their own, usually.
the whole American voting system is a fraud in my opinion, two parties, people vote, for people that vote for them, what the hell is this supposed to be, the population should vote directly and no proxy should be allowed in the loop.... as long as this system is in place among others things won't change much
That's actually something the American founders warned against very early on, in fact, I think there's a quote about it and here it is!:
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There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.
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Kerry should 'man-up' and confess to treason with the rest of the sitting and past government officials.
In a sense it did make me wonder if enough people tried to kick them out of power if it would work in practice or if voter apathy helps to keep them not charged with any crimes.
It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes. Wolves don't eat their own, usually.
That's why we need blockchain based voting
Kerry should 'man-up' and confess to treason with the rest of the sitting and past government officials.
In a sense it did make me wonder if enough people tried to kick them out of power if it would work in practice or if voter apathy helps to keep them not charged with any crimes.
It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes. Wolves don't eat their own, usually.
the whole American voting system is a fraud in my opinion, two parties, people vote, for people that vote for them, what the hell is this supposed to be, the population should vote directly and no proxy should be allowed in the loop.... as long as this system is in place among others things won't change much
There are more than the Democrat and Republican parties, but even if 100% of non-government officials voted for someone who wasn't in them, either a Republican or a Democrat would be declared to have "won" by some arbitrary number anyway. Unless the elected position didn't really matter, then a bone might be thrown to the actual winning party.
Unfortunately for a guy like Snowden, he's got to chill in a major powerhouse like Russia otherwise the US/CIA would likely send in a squad after him. But for many of us, those that have interest in new money and avoiding the coming relentless restraints place by the US govt inc, it's more beneficial to go to St. Kitts, Puerto Rico or some such place to escape the coming economic decline. These new capital controls coming in July will signify the new urgency that the US financial sector/FED is realizing is imminent and the S could hit the fan sooner rather than later. I just hope that the likes of Rand Paul can get elected and do something to right the ship and offer a better path for the vast majority of people. Those of us that have accumulated a decent portfolio of BTC and related items are better placed to deal w/ the decline and find an exit.
Kerry should 'man-up' and confess to treason with the rest of the sitting and past government officials.
In a sense it did make me wonder if enough people tried to kick them out of power if it would work in practice or if voter apathy helps to keep them not charged with any crimes.
It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes. Wolves don't eat their own, usually.
the whole American voting system is a fraud in my opinion, two parties, people vote, for people that vote for them, what the hell is this supposed to be, the population should vote directly and no proxy should be allowed in the loop.... as long as this system is in place among others things won't change much
Anyone here has any doubt that the courageous Kerry would return for trial if he was in Snowden shoes? 
Kerry should 'man-up' and confess to treason with the rest of the sitting and past government officials.
In a sense it did make me wonder if enough people tried to kick them out of power if it would work in practice or if voter apathy helps to keep them not charged with any crimes.
It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes. Wolves don't eat their own, usually.
All this just exposes the frustration being felt by John Kerry. He wants to get the Democrat ticket for POTUS 2016, but knows that Hillary and Biden are far ahead of him. Kerry is slowly fading away from the public limelight.... If he thinks that verbal diarrhea might help him to temporarily stop that decline, then let it be so.
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Kerry should 'man-up' and confess to treason with the rest of the sitting and past government officials.
In a sense it did make me wonder if enough people tried to kick them out of power if it would work in practice or if voter apathy helps to keep them not charged with any crimes.
Snowden Acts Like a Man – John Kerry Acts Like a Thug
This is a great article piece and should be shared far and wide. Just another clip
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By Shane Kastler
Edward Snowden appeared calm, articulate, and mature. John Kerry on the other hand acted like a spoiled, rich kid – a schoolyard bully questioning the “manhood” of Snowden who he insulted by calling him a coward since he won't immediately come home to face charges. In another sophomoric, juvenile bit of mud slinging Kerry called him stupid. What the jack jawed pompous millionaire government hack doesn't seem to realize is that
Snowden isn't near stupid enough to “come home for his fair trial” because no such “fair trial” would ever take place. Kerry can bluster all he wants; he has access to bombs, tanks, and assassins who will kill whomever he wishes. What does Snowden have? Two things: first he has far more common sense than Kerry, and second he has the truth.
Cont...http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2014/05/snowden-acts-like-man-john-kerry-acts.html#moreEdward Snowden appeared calm, articulate, and mature. John Kerry on the other hand acted like a spoiled, rich kid – a schoolyard bully questioning the “manhood” of Snowden who he insulted by calling him a coward since he won't immediately come home to face charges. In another sophomoric, juvenile bit of mud slinging Kerry called him stupid. What the jack jawed pompous millionaire government hack doesn't seem to realize is that
Snowden isn't near stupid enough to “come home for his fair trial” because no such “fair trial” would ever take place. Kerry can bluster all he wants; he has access to bombs, tanks, and assassins who will kill whomever he wishes. What does Snowden have? Two things: first he has far more common sense than Kerry, and second he has the truth.
This is a great article piece and should be shared far and wide. Just another clip
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“Sometimes the “right” thing is not the “legal” thing” was a statement he made near the end of the interview; and I knew exactly what he meant. If a kid is drowning in a lake and you're standing next to a sign that says “No Swimming!” What do you do? Answer: you break the law and save the kid. When painted into a corner you have to consider the matter of the greater good and act accordingly. Letting the chips fall where they may, which is what Snowden has done. There's a mighty dear price you pay for standing up to “Uncle Sam” and his bully goons like John Kerry. But the Federal government’s gang of rouge outlaws need to be stopped. Here's to hoping other Edward Snowdens are out there now, determining whether or not they'll act like men and yet be called a coward by the biggest coward of them all John Kerry. Name-calling is the petty task of the 8th grade bully. Taking on a corrupt government is the job of a man. Maybe someday Snowden can get back to work in his office; and Kerry can get back to the playground where he belongs.
That is kind of where things get murky for me. He clearly broke some laws but his reasons were just. Our founding fathers we also criminals in the eyes of the British crown.
Kerry should 'man-up' and confess to treason with the rest of the sitting and past government officials.
Snowden Acts Like a Man – John Kerry Acts Like a Thug
This is a great article piece and should be shared far and wide. Just another clip
Quote
By Shane Kastler
Edward Snowden appeared calm, articulate, and mature. John Kerry on the other hand acted like a spoiled, rich kid – a schoolyard bully questioning the “manhood” of Snowden who he insulted by calling him a coward since he won't immediately come home to face charges. In another sophomoric, juvenile bit of mud slinging Kerry called him stupid. What the jack jawed pompous millionaire government hack doesn't seem to realize is that
Snowden isn't near stupid enough to “come home for his fair trial” because no such “fair trial” would ever take place. Kerry can bluster all he wants; he has access to bombs, tanks, and assassins who will kill whomever he wishes. What does Snowden have? Two things: first he has far more common sense than Kerry, and second he has the truth.
Cont...http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2014/05/snowden-acts-like-man-john-kerry-acts.html#moreEdward Snowden appeared calm, articulate, and mature. John Kerry on the other hand acted like a spoiled, rich kid – a schoolyard bully questioning the “manhood” of Snowden who he insulted by calling him a coward since he won't immediately come home to face charges. In another sophomoric, juvenile bit of mud slinging Kerry called him stupid. What the jack jawed pompous millionaire government hack doesn't seem to realize is that
Snowden isn't near stupid enough to “come home for his fair trial” because no such “fair trial” would ever take place. Kerry can bluster all he wants; he has access to bombs, tanks, and assassins who will kill whomever he wishes. What does Snowden have? Two things: first he has far more common sense than Kerry, and second he has the truth.
This is a great article piece and should be shared far and wide. Just another clip
Quote
“Sometimes the “right” thing is not the “legal” thing” was a statement he made near the end of the interview; and I knew exactly what he meant. If a kid is drowning in a lake and you're standing next to a sign that says “No Swimming!” What do you do? Answer: you break the law and save the kid. When painted into a corner you have to consider the matter of the greater good and act accordingly. Letting the chips fall where they may, which is what Snowden has done. There's a mighty dear price you pay for standing up to “Uncle Sam” and his bully goons like John Kerry. But the Federal government’s gang of rouge outlaws need to be stopped. Here's to hoping other Edward Snowdens are out there now, determining whether or not they'll act like men and yet be called a coward by the biggest coward of them all John Kerry. Name-calling is the petty task of the 8th grade bully. Taking on a corrupt government is the job of a man. Maybe someday Snowden can get back to work in his office; and Kerry can get back to the playground where he belongs.
If Snowden were to get a fair public trial then sure he should man up but it will not be the case here for sure, also before asking Snowden to be judged for his crimes (because in my eyes he commited some by taking the informations and stuff) people that cause the death of hundred of thousands through the recent wars under false excuses should be held responsible for their crimes
You see, this is the only way the government can discredit him now. Note how they don't say JACK SHIT about the morality of what he actually did. They don't talk about whether it was right or wrong. They don't say whether the government and the NSA are breaking laws. Instead they focus on the fact that he is "afraid" to come home to be fucking imprisoned for life with no trial. Give me a fucking break. They expect people to simple go "oh yeah you're right Kerry he is a coward!" and completely discredit what he actually did and why. Any person with half a brain knows that Snowden is a fucking hero and patriot and has more balls than all of the politicians in the White House put together.
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Edward Snowden is a hero.
John Kerry is a plastic vampire leech.
John Kerry is a plastic vampire leech.
The day when he will die, I am sure he will be one of the few that will proudly say : "I had a meaningful life, thanks"
There is no way he regrets following his conviction against a comfortable life.
His life is not ruined, it began from the day he followed his convictions. (The bad or good consequences it had depends on the observer)
"Every man dies, not every man really live" like William Wallace (or its actor) said
There is no way he regrets following his conviction against a comfortable life.
His life is not ruined, it began from the day he followed his convictions. (The bad or good consequences it had depends on the observer)
"Every man dies, not every man really live" like William Wallace (or its actor) said
Yes, agreed. The Kerrys of this world are 10 a penny. That Kerry suggested Snowden "man up" merely shows that he doesn't really understand what it means to be a man IMHO. Talking the talk, shaking some hands and slapping some backs doesn't cut it I'm afraid.
I had to laugh also at his little dig at Russia, where he said that it was an "authoritarian regime"
What the fuck is that supposed to mean ? The pot calling the kettle black You are the one, Kerry, wanting to string a man up by the balls for having told the truth.Jump to: