Social experiments in the world of gambling - page 10.

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Quote from: Debonaire217 on November 26, 2019, 02:23:20 AM

It basically depends from the intention. But most of the time, if someone loses their funds on betting it, it isn't necessary for them to ask the people here for help. They will just be sad about it on their own. In the first place, it is quite embarrassing for people to entertain him, and if he ask for money, no one will surely help. But for advise, I consider myself to help him out.

Most of the time where people wont really assist in terms of money yet he would just basically gamble after that since he know that he do already have some funds into his pocket.
Financial support would be out of the list but for verbal support then there would someone help on that but most of the time people should really be the one who do resolve his
own gambling problems.Consequences do happen if you do just let gambling addiction control you.Just play for small amounts and when you already get the entertainment you seek then you should stop
and dont play further more.

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if there is no financial involved why not ? many gamblers are crawling here on the past asking for help ( not money or loans ) but help on how can they minimize thier gambling addiction . users here are also helpful and responds imediately to thier queries . forums like this are really helpful so that people can give and share thier problem but there are also people that will only post here and ask for loans because he want to gamble . thats a silly reason imo and the chances for them to be helped is slim .

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It basically depends from the intention. But most of the time, if someone loses their funds on betting it, it isn't necessary for them to ask the people here for help. They will just be sad about it on their own. In the first place, it is quite embarrassing for people to entertain him, and if he ask for money, no one will surely help. But for advise, I consider myself to help him out.

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Quote from: anog on November 23, 2019, 10:07:41 AM

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Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 04:01:14 PM

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Motivation help - Yes
Financial help - No
Buying him a burger - YES

You often come across such gentlemen in the chat boxes of gambling sites. Most of them do get help of a few pennies from the fellow gambling buddies. I personally wouldn't feel remorseful over their loses.

Yes, if they already know each other, but if not, I don't think anyone will help, and risk begging in chat, the account will be banned.

I think the most appropriate choice is to stop gambling and forget about the losses that have occurred instead of having to beg.

Even if we know each other, that doesn't mean we will help him because if he uses the money for playing gambling, that will give another problem to him. As long as the money is not for playing gambling, let us help him because he is our friend. I think that will what other people do to help their friend. But that will not work for people who always lend his money to other people because he will think that is the best chance to make more money from desperate people Grin

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If your asking if we will give that person money then I would rather not give him especially if I don’t know the person because we really don’t know if that person is telling the truth about his loss, there is also a possibility that he is just making those story up just to ask money from people around here. Another possibility is that what he is saying is true that he lost big time but wanted to ask money to gamble again to recover the losses, whatever reason I would not easily give money because if I help them by giving money then they will be addicted more, I would rather advise them to stop right away to avoid having more and more losses and if he wanted money to start over then he can join signatures campaigns here as well.

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Quote from: Patatas on November 23, 2019, 06:26:20 AM

Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 04:01:14 PM

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Motivation help - Yes
Financial help - No
Buying him a burger - YES

You often come across such gentlemen in the chat boxes of gambling sites. Most of them do get help of a few pennies from the fellow gambling buddies. I personally wouldn't feel remorseful over their loses.

Yes, if they already know each other, but if not, I don't think anyone will help, and risk begging in chat, the account will be banned.

I think the most appropriate choice is to stop gambling and forget about the losses that have occurred instead of having to beg.

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Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 04:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

of course I will not help him, because when he lose a large amount, then he want to revenge it, I think this is not a good idea he will become more and more. good lesson for them to realize after losing a lot of money, so they will think to stop.

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Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 04:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

What help does he need? A financial support? An advice? What?

If financial support then I will not help him ever. I know how risky gambling is and I don't want to help him to give some more finances just to have funds for gambling. He suffered a loss already and he must stop with it.

If an advice then that is the time that I can help him. Either I will help him to consult to a mental specialist or we will go outside and play other games not gambling.

In his situation, a financial help will definitely do more than advice. The guy is asking for money. It is a bit of against the rules too but still, as he is not really begging and whining, it is pretty OK. He must have done this out of no other option. The best for him would be to take advice and start doing any sort of job instead of depending on others. Even if we want to help, we will be doing a lot of investigation first.

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Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 04:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

Personally I do not think I would be able to help someone, who suffered a loss in gambling. I am not sure about the community. Gambling is a risk and the person should have the courage to take that risk and suffer the consequences. We are not promoting gamblers here.

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Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 04:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

I have never experience such thing (did lose small amounts but didn't care much). But I have seen people in online casino losing a shit load of coins. I have never seen that begging on the chat box after losing his coins on a big bet. Instead I have seen some of them laugh it off and in fact they come back later and gambles as usual.
If someone who lost a lot of coins in gambling and asks for a little help (coins to gamble), I don't think I will give him any.

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Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 04:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

Motivation help - Yes
Financial help - No
Buying him a burger - YES

You often come across such gentlemen in the chat boxes of gambling sites. Most of them do get help of a few pennies from the fellow gambling buddies. I personally wouldn't feel remorseful over their loses.

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So from the conclusion of all that giving help to the mistakes of others (gambling) is wrong, maybe it's okay if the person providing the help is sincere and understands the situation. But keep in mind that those who ask for help when losing in gambling are better to borrow than to beg or stop.

Lending section has been provided in this forum so use it for those of you who feel loss, even the government will not be responsible for your failure.

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Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 04:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

May be yes and may be no. Depending on the problem I would be taking care off. Because not all the time you are a big help to the others. Either way I'll be lending a hand or even just being a listener to at least he can speak up or voice out his/her grudge to a certain problem he/she dealing with.

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Quote from: Duzter on November 18, 2019, 06:35:25 PM

It happens and no one will intend to help, because the mistake done is after understanding the true risk of gambling. Myself too is a victim, and I haven't asked for help with unknown persons. I've requested help from friends without revealing my failure on gambling. Also I've requested the support team of the casinos. Friends have helped me, and I'm repaying little by little.

I think that's a wrong choice, by taking help from others without revealing that you intent to gamble with the funds! It's alright to make mistakes, but taking loans to gamble to recover is taking a huge burden specially if you lose their money on gambling as well. Might damage relationships.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 21, 2019, 10:56:43 PM

Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 04:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

What help does he need? A financial support? An advice? What?

If financial support then I will not help him ever. I know how risky gambling is and I don't want to help him to give some more finances just to have funds for gambling. He suffered a loss already and he must stop with it.

If an advice then that is the time that I can help him. Either I will help him to consult to a mental specialist or we will go outside and play other games not gambling.

yes it is a logical choice for those who are hard addicted to gambling, they need to get mental therapy.
there are many bad effects when people are addicted to gambling and can't stop themselves from playing anymore even until they lose everything
we don't need to help money because they will return to the danger gambling zone that we can only provide advice for them.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 21, 2019, 10:56:43 PM

What help does he need? A financial support? An advice? What?

If financial support then I will not help him ever. I know how risky gambling is and I don't want to help him to give some more finances just to have funds for gambling. He suffered a loss already and he must stop with it.

If an advice then that is the time that I can help him. Either I will help him to consult to a mental specialist or we will go outside and play other games not gambling.

Me too, but it also depends on how broke he/she is.
If advices, then it totally free and most of the people here are willing also to help giving such advises.
But there are some people who are asking for help about financial things, like they want some capital or funds to get their loss back.
Some also asking for a loan with interest, that is also possible but there's a different section that, not here in Gambling Discussion.

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Quote from: Botnake on November 21, 2019, 06:51:26 AM

I never donated money on a gambler that is begging for help, however, I might consider depending on the situation as I need to do some investigation on the account that is begging, just to make sure its legit and it is not just doing it to scam people.

When it comes to money, people are really careful on extending here, even charities here are having a hard time to collect money, how much more a gambler who loss and beg.

and if ever OP is not aware of the rules.

This is against the forum rules.

Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 04:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you,

7. no begging. - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657

It is hard to trust someone here, asking for help because you never know whether that person is telling the truth or is just fabricating the story. He should also abide by the rules of this forum. But anyway, if he has not then at least he should not expect people to be this fool that they will help without doing thorough investigation first. moreover, No one has time to accomplish this activity so these people must learn to make your decisions after thinking.

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Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 04:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

What help does he need? A financial support? An advice? What?

If financial support then I will not help him ever. I know how risky gambling is and I don't want to help him to give some more finances just to have funds for gambling. He suffered a loss already and he must stop with it.

If an advice then that is the time that I can help him. Either I will help him to consult to a mental specialist or we will go outside and play other games not gambling.

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Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 04:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

If you mean financial help, the only money I would give to a trouble gambler on that situation would be the money to pay him a cab to go home... And I think it's a common situation at casinos. Usually there are people around willing to help on these cases.
From my own experience gambling community is very friendly and empathic to others, maybe because many of them can be in a hard situation like that anyday.

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Quote from: angrybirdy on November 21, 2019, 05:27:32 AM

It's hard to decide,
If it is your friend and you know what he has done, you will have second thoughts if you will lend him money. There are things to consider first like asking him what he will do and if does he realize his priorities, the things he needs to do and if he is ready to leave gambling after that.
There's a huge stress that he currently faces after his loss, and I think finding a job will take time since blaming himself will be there, for all those stress to be removed, there should be someone from his loved ones to support and guide him to the right path for that to happen.

But we cannot lend him money if that money will be used for gambling because that is not a solution for him. I think he will use the money to continue gambling, but if he can promise not to apply for gambling, I might lend the money to him. I say that because I realize that sometimes that person will lie to other people so they can get the money and I don't like it if they have to lie to borrow the money.

As a friend, maybe we can suggest to him not to give up on searching for a new job, or if we can help him, that will be worth him. We can give the money to him to buy food while he searches for the job, and I guess that will help him to survive for a few days until he can get a new job.

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