Social experiments in the world of gambling - page 11.

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I never donated money on a gambler that is begging for help, however, I might consider depending on the situation as I need to do some investigation on the account that is begging, just to make sure its legit and it is not just doing it to scam people.

When it comes to money, people are really careful on extending here, even charities here are having a hard time to collect money, how much more a gambler who loss and beg.

and if ever OP is not aware of the rules.

This is against the forum rules.

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If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you,

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Quote from: sayaya17 on November 21, 2019, 05:47:16 AM

I will not give a loan in the form of money to a gambler because it is very unlikely to lend money to an unknown person. Especially if the money will be reused to gamble. I don't think anyone would lend it to him. Maybe I would suggest to the gambler to stop while playing gambling, and if there is already a lot of money please to gamble back, but must be ready to lose back.

I will not allow lending too even the one who will borrow is a higher rank as gambling been so delicate to know whether there will be an earning back or a chance to be paid. If the borrower have some collateral to impose then possibly and as much as possible I should know him personally or there's someone related to us that we can assume whether to be a trustee. But gambler is not really a good payee as in our area they always have excuse to delay paying.

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Quote from: Betwrong on November 20, 2019, 12:17:49 PM

Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 05:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

I wouldn't give/lend money to such person, because it would only make things worse for him/her, but I would be more than happy to help with an advice on how to deal with loss, and on how to avoid such situations in the future.

I know, people pay big money for counselling, but the thing is that shrinks are no gamblers themselves, and thus they can hardly say anything constructive on the matter.

I would suggest to such a person to come here, on this forum, to spell out their problem with as many details as possible, and to get free counselling. Maybe it would be helpful.

If he promises to never ever gamble again then there is no harm in lending money to a gambler who has decided to give up on this game. If he is asking for financial help in order to fulfill needs of his family or something like that with the intention to return the borrowed amount back, the guy deserves help. We should never ever disappoint someone who has High Hopes from us. Saving one life is equal to saving all humanity. If this is not possible then he must be encouraged for good times at least. Mostly gamblers become depressed which is the biggest problem.

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Quote from: michellee on November 21, 2019, 05:56:19 AM

Quote from: sayaya17 on November 21, 2019, 05:47:16 AM

I will not give a loan in the form of money to a gambler because it is very unlikely to lend money to an unknown person. Especially if the money will be reused to gamble. I don't think anyone would lend it to him. Maybe I would suggest to the gambler to stop while playing gambling, and if there is already a lot of money please to gamble back, but must be ready to lose back.

Even if you know that person who wants to borrow money was your friend, you will think twice to give that money to your friend because you know he already loses in gambling. Maybe it's better to ask him to stop gambling and search for a real job, so he doesn't have to borrow the money for just playing gambling. Borrowing money from other people will give another trouble to that person.

It's hard to decide,
If it is your friend and you know what he has done, you will have second thoughts if you will lend him money. There are things to consider first like asking him what he will do and if does he realize his priorities, the things he needs to do and if he is ready to leave gambling after that.
There's a huge stress that he currently faces after his loss, and I think finding a job will take time since blaming himself will be there, for all those stress to be removed, there should be someone from his loved ones to support and guide him to the right path for that to happen.

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Quote from: sayaya17 on November 21, 2019, 05:47:16 AM

I will not give a loan in the form of money to a gambler because it is very unlikely to lend money to an unknown person. Especially if the money will be reused to gamble. I don't think anyone would lend it to him. Maybe I would suggest to the gambler to stop while playing gambling, and if there is already a lot of money please to gamble back, but must be ready to lose back.

Even if you know that person who wants to borrow money was your friend, you will think twice to give that money to your friend because you know he already loses in gambling. Maybe it's better to ask him to stop gambling and search for a real job, so he doesn't have to borrow the money for just playing gambling. Borrowing money from other people will give another trouble to that person.

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I will not give a loan in the form of money to a gambler because it is very unlikely to lend money to an unknown person. Especially if the money will be reused to gamble. I don't think anyone would lend it to him. Maybe I would suggest to the gambler to stop while playing gambling, and if there is already a lot of money please to gamble back, but must be ready to lose back.

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It depends on if I know the person well enough before he made a big loss. If he's a friend (both online or offline) or a relative, I'll help my best.

But if he's a total stranger who just come to me "bro, I just busted a full btc, can you help me, I'll gamble again to recover" then hell no.

Frankly, I would be hesitating to even help a gambler friend because they will most likely gamble with my money too to recover.

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Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 05:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

what i believe that a gambler won't lose that big if he is not an addict or super greed,from that point what i think is they deserve that losses and will not entitled for any help.

for me he must learn what is wrong and the mistakes for doing such thing,this will helps them realized and learn the good things the hard ways and i am sure that in time it will make them a much better person.
so theres no help from my side but purely advises is what i can give.

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Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 05:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?

It depends, If I know this someone personally then I will help him, otherwise no. I will help him to start over again by correcting his mistakes and not to use the money to chase back his losses. Because before we gamble using our hard-earned money we must know the consequences of our actions.

Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 05:01:14 PM

Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

Yes way back in time I was still greedy to earn money. I have regrets but it already happened so I just move on and face the problem cause of my addiction. Its not easy especially if you lose huge money but you can still earn it by working hard.

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Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 05:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

if he is someone who can believe and have a track record of excellent especially when he's playing gamble I may be able to give him the help.
I had to know someone luckybit he is very reliable even if I was in need of capital he can help me. how could I just silent if there is a friend who are in need help

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Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 05:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

If they asked for help, why not? As long as I have spare funds and they are telling the truth, I'm ready to give them a hand.

Now, the next part of the story will be decided if where they will use the help money.

If they go gambling again to retrieve the losses, then no way I will help them for a second chance. If they will put the help money on good and began changing their gambling behaviour, then I'm willing to lend a hand anytime.

I do experience big loss but became a better gambler after. We really need to suffer big losses before becoming a mature gambler.

One important matter is how will you deliver the help, if you will blindly provide the need that being ask and you will not look to whatever this gambler will do with the money, then you are just tolerating this bad vices. Although it's understandable that you also came from this situations
and you are aware but people have differences if you manage to become a good gambler chances that the person that you are helping will become more worse better to allow him to learn from this and find time to think about this wrong things before helping.

The question is whether you will know what your friend did with the money that you let him borrow. Of course your friend would tell you that he used them to buy food or give to his family, but how would you know the truth? If he borrows you saying that he needs the money so that he could gamble again, you will not let him borrow. And so he has to tell a lie in order to have the money. And he would again tell a lie as to what he did with the money in order for you to continue to trust him. For me, I won't let him borrow money.

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Quote from: goinmerry on November 20, 2019, 07:06:45 PM

Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 05:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

If they asked for help, why not? As long as I have spare funds and they are telling the truth, I'm ready to give them a hand.

Now, the next part of the story will be decided if where they will use the help money.

If they go gambling again to retrieve the losses, then no way I will help them for a second chance. If they will put the help money on good and began changing their gambling behaviour, then I'm willing to lend a hand anytime.

I do experience big loss but became a better gambler after. We really need to suffer big losses before becoming a mature gambler.

One important matter is how will you deliver the help, if you will blindly provide the need that being ask and you will not look to whatever this gambler will do with the money, then you are just tolerating this bad vices. Although it's understandable that you also came from this situations
and you are aware but people have differences if you manage to become a good gambler chances that the person that you are helping will become more worse better to allow him to learn from this and find time to think about this wrong things before helping.

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I guess he will ask for help to lend him some money to continue gambling. That is what someone will do if he loses his money in gambling and meets some guy so he can borrow money from that guy. I think he won't listen to that guy if that guy tells to move on and forget, and I guess that person will search the other guy to borrow the money.

That person needs to realize that he must stop gambling for a while and don't continue gambling because that will be difficult for him to win and to pay the money. But if that person asks for help to drive him back to his home, perhaps we can help him.

That may be the common thing, he will ask for money to help himself. Since he lost so much money in gambling, the only thing on his mind is for sure how he will be able to get all those money back. If that's the case, the right thing to do help him in another way. It is not right to avoid listening to him, at least show him that there are still more people to listen to someone who has a problem when it comes to gambling.

Once you have talk to him, I know he will realize everything, and he will stop gambling once it happens. Most of the time, that kind of person only needs someone to talk to and help them realize the things that they don't.

I always listening if someone has a problem but to lend him the money for gambling, I don't think that is a good idea. Even sometimes I help other people who need money by giving them a job at my friend's office so he can get the money. But he should promise to me that the money will not be used for gambling. Otherwise, I won't care about him anymore.

I have a friend who is often playing gambling in the past. He came to me to lend some money to do a new job, and he tells me that he won't gamble anymore. I trust him and give him some money to create a new small job in his home. After a few months, he comes to me and gives back the money and said that his life is changed now, and he already stops gambling from that day.

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Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 05:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

If they asked for help, why not? As long as I have spare funds and they are telling the truth, I'm ready to give them a hand.

Now, the next part of the story will be decided if where they will use the help money.

If they go gambling again to retrieve the losses, then no way I will help them for a second chance. If they will put the help money on good and began changing their gambling behaviour, then I'm willing to lend a hand anytime.

I do experience big loss but became a better gambler after. We really need to suffer big losses before becoming a mature gambler.

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Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 05:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

He have very less chance of getting any help financially if he goes bankrupt by just gambling alone because people see as irresponsible person so even helping them might leads to waste the money by betting again,but if he changed the things now want to survive and starving for food then will help him.

When one is out of gambling due to loss and doesn't able to survive he should be given help mentally and if he is requesting for financial help it should be avoided. Mostly when stops gambling out of funds, and if he gets small amount too he'll start gambling again. This way I'll help him with mental aid consoling to find a way for life.

Or in short, a help psychologically not on financial because it will just worsen up the situation.If someone is addicted and want to get rid
of it then its better to avoid to handle up some funds because this will really be a main trigger for you to play again.

You can give emotional support but not financial ones.Also, for sure no one would help out to lend you up some money as a form of help.
No person would easily do that.

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Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 05:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

He have very less chance of getting any help financially if he goes bankrupt by just gambling alone because people see as irresponsible person so even helping them might leads to waste the money by betting again,but if he changed the things now want to survive and starving for food then will help him.

When one is out of gambling due to loss and doesn't able to survive he should be given help mentally and if he is requesting for financial help it should be avoided. Mostly when stops gambling out of funds, and if he gets small amount too he'll start gambling again. This way I'll help him with mental aid consoling to find a way for life.

definitely. therapy is the way to go
and analysing how's the person quality oflife and habits.
usually gambling can also be a compensation for a lack in other areas of life like poor food quality/junk food, lack of exercise, etc...

humans are definitely complex beings.

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Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 05:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

He have very less chance of getting any help financially if he goes bankrupt by just gambling alone because people see as irresponsible person so even helping them might leads to waste the money by betting again,but if he changed the things now want to survive and starving for food then will help him.

When one is out of gambling due to loss and doesn't able to survive he should be given help mentally and if he is requesting for financial help it should be avoided. Mostly when stops gambling out of funds, and if he gets small amount too he'll start gambling again. This way I'll help him with mental aid consoling to find a way for life.

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Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 05:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

Gambling field is not the helping field and we never can do the investment on gambling first but at the same time lending to some people in this field is not a worthy one.
I not sure where is the social experiment going at here.
It is purely foolishness to invest on gambling fields.

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Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 05:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

I wouldn't give/lend money to such person, because it would only make things worse for him/her, but I would be more than happy to help with an advice on how to deal with loss, and on how to avoid such situations in the future.

I know, people pay big money for counselling, but the thing is that shrinks are no gamblers themselves, and thus they can hardly say anything constructive on the matter.

I would suggest to such a person to come here, on this forum, to spell out their problem with as many details as possible, and to get free counselling. Maybe it would be helpful.

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Quote from: Shamerkhan on November 18, 2019, 05:01:14 PM

If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?

If ever there will be one, I will be just saying to him that accept the sad truth about it and move on. I guess it there would no one that would accept for a help like that, they knew from the start what are they entering and they should've been ready for what the consequences are.

Acceptance need to get inside his mind as gambling addicted didn't know how to control, if you will help him in terms of financial assistance he might go back and play again. The help that he need is to how he can move away from this kind of addiction, he needs mental assistance if you can guide him or if you can refer good doctor to assist him. But in terms of money matters he should not get anything for him to realize and for him to think that quitting is the best way to cure himself.

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