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Topic: Social security is the govs way of saying you are too stupid to save your own $$ - page 5. (Read 3724 times)

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FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
Yes, Social Security is not a savings plan. It's more like forced insurance. They're stealing your money and giving it to someone else. It requires an ever-expanding base of payers in order to support the payouts. There is another activity which matches that description...
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I guess I like the idea of personal responsibility and the freedom that comes with it. What right even does the government have to take some of your money and "save" it for you? If someone is too stupid not to save part of their paycheck then that's their fault.  If people want to develop a form of old people insurance then it should be something that is voluntary. Whoever wants in can get in. But you shouldn't force people.

Your views and opinions are not very well articulated, nor do they factor in a lot of conditions which you, in your zeal, fail to acknowledge, or more likely, simply are too blind to see. Let me summarize how I see you:

You: "Drrruhh! Can't force me! Uuuunhhh!"

I have news for you. Force is a component of both nature and society. It compels, guides and influences everybody.

Now, regarding Social Security: in order for you to discuss it, you first need to understand it. Start with the fact that Social Security is not the equivalent of a savings plan. At the very least, please, understand that. Once you've done that, you can, should, and will stop equating it to you saving money.
sr. member
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The whole idea of social security appalls me. The idea that they take some of our money to save it for us. And in reality they just go and dip into those funds to spend at will. It's stupid.

The only difference between social security and a ponzi scheme is that a ponzi scheme is voluntary.
legendary
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when i hit hard times, i'll blow my brains out.  and give my bitcoins to my mom.  fick social security
sr. member
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I guess I like the idea of personal responsibility and the freedom that comes with it. What right even does the government have to take some of your money and "save" it for you? If someone is too stupid not to save part of their paycheck then that's their fault.  If people want to develop a form of old people insurance then it should be something that is voluntary. Whoever wants in can get in. But you shouldn't force people.
hero member
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FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
The whole idea of social security appalls me. The idea that they take some of our money to save it for us. And in reality they just go and dip into those funds to spend at will. It's stupid.

Actually, it's not stupid. I'm sure there are some hundred million or so that are thankful that their parents receive a social security check.

"thanks govn't for giving me my money back and saving it for me" . Meanwhile the government hopes that you die before you get what you put into it back out.

When you hit hard times, and draw upon your savings to get by, and then find your savings depleted, I'm sure you'll sing a different tune. The irony, of course, is despite your claim of not being short-sighted about saving your money,  you actually are too short-sighted to anticipate what can really happen.

And when the Social security system is revealed for the ponzi it is, and the coffers are dry, that tune will come to a grinding, screeching halt.
hero member
Activity: 812
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The whole idea of social security appalls me. The idea that they take some of our money to save it for us. And in reality they just go and dip into those funds to spend at will. It's stupid.

Actually, it's not stupid. I'm sure there are some hundred million or so that are thankful that their parents receive a social security check.

"thanks govn't for giving me my money back and saving it for me" . Meanwhile the government hopes that you die before you get what you put into it back out.

When you hit hard times, and draw upon your savings to get by, and then find your savings depleted, I'm sure you'll sing a different tune. The irony, of course, is despite your claim of not being short-sighted about saving your money,  you actually are too short-sighted to anticipate what can really happen.
sr. member
Activity: 294
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The whole idea of social security appalls me. The idea that they take some of our money to save it for us. And in reality they just go and dip into those funds to spend at will. It's stupid.

Actually, it's not stupid. I'm sure there are some hundred million or so that are thankful that their parents receive a social security check.

"thanks govn't for giving me my money back and saving it for me" . Meanwhile the government hopes that you die before you get what you put into it back out.
legendary
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Merit: 1003
Over half of America's budget goes into Social Security and Welfare.

To contrast, 2% is spent on education, another 2% on advances in medicine and science.  Anyone who finds this agreeable is the end result of a nation whose budget for education is 2%, while socialism, warfare and debt interest make up almost the entirety of the rest.
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
The whole idea of social security appalls me. The idea that they take some of our money to save it for us. And in reality they just go and dip into those funds to spend at will. It's stupid.

Actually, it's not stupid. I'm sure there are some hundred million or so that are thankful that their parents receive a social security check.
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
The whole idea of social security appalls me. The idea that they take some of our money to save it for us. And in reality they just go and dip into those funds to spend at will. It's stupid.
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