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Topic: Socialism is so bad that it allows poor people to live. Horrible true story - page 6. (Read 10283 times)

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Socialism creates disincentives to work and also to maximize productivity when working. It fails every time it has been tried and each time it has been tried, the country’s people see lower standard of living and the state has had to use violent force to compel people to participate in the socialism.

Socialism has killed hundreds of millions of people over the past 120 years.

Capitalism has killed more people than socialism.
"The thing is most deaths of the last 600 years since neo liberalism and colonialism merged into a single destructive ideology is attributed to capitalism and the capitalist and elite political class need for profit and power. Yet its become so normalised that many wont link it to capitalism"

"Just the distribution of resources, something that is a factor to add to the Communist death toll, is disregarded when addressing Capitalism.

I wonder how many people die a year from not being able to afford basic necessities."
legendary
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Flying Hellfish is a Commie
Poor people actually have the same care than the rich.

Do the poor people get the absolute best health care modern technology can possibly give, as soon as possible, money no object no matter if it costs $100mm?
I highly doubt it..

How about the rich guy? Is he not allowed to have that even if he can pay for it himself?

+1 to that.

Socialism isn't a good system, and it leads to a country in disarray as we see in Venezuela. It causes the government to give and give (in the forms of welfare) and take and take and take (in the form of taxes) until there is nothing left to give and nothing more to take. It's not a system that anyone should have to live under, as it will lead to the untimely demise of your government.
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Socialism has killed hundreds of millions of people over the past 120 years.

Yabut, it was the capitalists that supplied the socialists with the guns to do the killing. They made a load of money doing this.

Cool
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BTC or BUST
Do the poor people get the absolute best health care modern technology can possibly give, as soon as possible, money no object no matter if it costs $100mm?
I highly doubt it..
I live in Finland, as long if it's possible to provide, and necessary then yes. Also what the hell costs $100mm per person? Nothing.

How necessary?
Is the rich guy allowed to buy products or services that may not meet your definition of necessary?

Like, if an Xray is recommended and will probably do, but the guy also wants a CAT scan and an MRI to be extra sure.. Can he pay extra for that? And also go to another doctor for a 2nd opinion?
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Do the poor people get the absolute best health care modern technology can possibly give, as soon as possible, money no object no matter if it costs $100mm?
I highly doubt it..
I live in Finland, as long if it's possible to provide, and necessary then yes. Also what the hell costs $100mm per person? Nothing.

How about the rich guy? Is he not allowed to have that even if he can pay for it himself?

Cheesy of course not, rich have no right for healthcare! What an earth are you talking about? They are eligible for the same heatlhcare.
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Socialism creates disincentives to work and also to maximize productivity when working. It fails every time it has been tried and each time it has been tried, the country’s people see lower standard of living and the state has had to use violent force to compel people to participate in the socialism.

Socialism has killed hundreds of millions of people over the past 120 years.
legendary
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BTC or BUST
Poor people actually have the same care than the rich.

Do the poor people get the absolute best health care modern technology can possibly give, as soon as possible, money no object no matter if it costs $100mm?
I highly doubt it..

How about the rich guy? Is he not allowed to have that even if he can pay for it himself?
legendary
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There is a persistent lie spread saying that nationalizing a market is making it inneficient and stupidly buraucratic.

Well sorry to say but difference between a nationalized market and a free but regulated market is, for health, 50% more costly for USA and extremely inequal system.


Socialism is horrible right?
Must be why Mick Jagger came to the USA for his surgery....
legendary
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First Exclusion Ever
You are saying doctors should be slaves to the people?

Yes, in France doctors aren't paid. And they also work where we order to. It's exactly this, doctors are slaves you're perfectly right.

Yesterday I went to the doctor and he told me "sorry master I think you aren't really sick" so I beat him to death because he didn't call me "grand master". Imagine the nerve.

Way to use sarcasm to avoid responding to a completely valid point. You wonder why I act like such a cunt to you... because you are a cunt. Worst of all you are a cunt with no argument.
legendary
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You are saying doctors should be slaves to the people?

Yes, in France doctors aren't paid. And they also work where we order to. It's exactly this, doctors are slaves you're perfectly right.

Yesterday I went to the doctor and he told me "sorry master I think you aren't really sick" so I beat him to death because he didn't call me "grand master". Imagine the nerve.
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Hey

I just wanted to share this study proving something reaaaaaaally horrible. In horrible socialist countries like France... Poor people actually have the same care than the rich.

https://www.nber.org/papers/w24623.pdf

Joke aside, health is a major proof that free market is just market controled by money. Nothing else.

Do you want a society where health is dependant on your wealth?


There is a persistent lie spread saying that nationalizing a market is making it inneficient and stupidly buraucratic.

Well sorry to say but difference between a nationalized market and a free but regulated market is, for health, 50% more costly for USA and extremely inequal system.


Socialism is horrible right?

Health is a service offered by people. People with money will always be able to afford better health care it is that simple. I know some wealthy families that just hire a doctor full time in private practices. I don't blame a doctor for the study they put into their career to then go private to help people with money. If I worked that hard to become that good as a doctor I would want to get the most value out of it.

You are saying doctors should be slaves to the people?
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1251
Hey

I just wanted to share this study proving something reaaaaaaally horrible. In horrible socialist countries like France... Poor people actually have the same care than the rich.

https://www.nber.org/papers/w24623.pdf

Joke aside, health is a major proof that free market is just market controled by money. Nothing else.

Do you want a society where health is dependant on your wealth?


There is a persistent lie spread saying that nationalizing a market is making it inneficient and stupidly buraucratic.

Well sorry to say but difference between a nationalized market and a free but regulated market is, for health, 50% more costly for USA and extremely inequal system.


Socialism is horrible right?
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