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Topic: Solution to poverty - Socialism or Capitalism? - page 5. (Read 30782 times)

legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1018
With a market you have lower prices, competition, lots of innovation and with socialism you have coercion, higher prices and very low innovation
newbie
Activity: 23
Merit: 0
The solution to poverty is love. Smiley Not Capitalism nor Socialism.
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
2 pages age this thread was much less retarded.
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
A resource based economy may indeed be it.
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1018
Socialism or Capitalism are irrelevant when Bitcoin takes the spotlight. Bitcoinism is the future.

Not too sure there.

Humans are primed at basic level to lead or be lead. There is no equilibrium. Power will just shift to those with the most bitcoin. And those people; like those that do now, will influence matters through bitcoin as a replacement.

Life sucks lol

As I said - we need to evolve from life force suckers to propping each other up!

Smiley

Think it is possible to have an organisation of society where the one in charge or with the power don't abuse it if you don't give the politicians too much power which will be the case if you don't ask the State to take of things that it shouldn't take care of and if you have low taxes
newbie
Activity: 23
Merit: 0
Socialism or Capitalism are irrelevant when Bitcoin takes the spotlight. Bitcoinism is the future.

 Roll Eyes

Congratulations to everyone of us who believes that bitcoin will come and save us.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
Socialism or Capitalism are irrelevant when Bitcoin takes the spotlight. Bitcoinism is the future.

Not too sure there.

Humans are primed at basic level to lead or be lead. There is no equilibrium. Power will just shift to those with the most bitcoin. And those people; like those that do now, will influence matters through bitcoin as a replacement.

Life sucks lol

As I said - we need to evolve from life force suckers to propping each other up!

Smiley
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
Socialism or Capitalism are irrelevant when Bitcoin takes the spotlight. Bitcoinism is the future.

 Roll Eyes
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
Socialism or Capitalism are irrelevant when Bitcoin takes the spotlight. Bitcoinism is the future.
newbie
Activity: 57
Merit: 0
A society run by businessmen will always create more prosperity for everyone.
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
The solution to poverty is simplicity. Sell your house, get a house in the rural area. Buy a land and then plant crops. Get a day job maybe 3x  week and then enjoy life.
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
Is not about what kind of government, but what kind of people are in charge: till they are selfish, greedy and dishonest, no government can succeed.
This is precisely what kind of government, libertarian does not believe that it is possible to have a governement not selfish, greedy, and dishonest, this is why we believe minimal power into their hands is better.

Thats incredibly bleak outlook.  Thats why you have checks and balances.  Thats why you have good regulations.  Thats why you have legal framework

The paraadox of your statement is that if these selfish, dishonest people arent in the public sector then theyd just be in the private sector.  Libertarianism is not the solution for bad people problem.  Rules are the solution

Twiifm is right! What we need is a piece of paper with some ink on it that will stop psychopaths from using the state's monopoly on the initiation of force to inflict their whim upon people because........ magic!  Roll Eyes

What do you think the Constitution is

The constitution is just a piece of paper - G.W. Bush
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1278
Is not about what kind of government, but what kind of people are in charge: till they are selfish, greedy and dishonest, no government can succeed.
This is precisely what kind of government, libertarian does not believe that it is possible to have a governement not selfish, greedy, and dishonest, this is why we believe minimal power into their hands is better.

Thats incredibly bleak outlook.  Thats why you have checks and balances.  Thats why you have good regulations.  Thats why you have legal framework

The paraadox of your statement is that if these selfish, dishonest people arent in the public sector then theyd just be in the private sector.  Libertarianism is not the solution for bad people problem.  Rules are the solution

Twiifm is right! What we need is a piece of paper with some ink on it that will stop psychopaths from using the state's monopoly on the initiation of force to inflict their whim upon people because........ magic!  Roll Eyes

What do you think the Constitution is
Worthless at this point.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 500
Is not about what kind of government, but what kind of people are in charge: till they are selfish, greedy and dishonest, no government can succeed.
This is precisely what kind of government, libertarian does not believe that it is possible to have a governement not selfish, greedy, and dishonest, this is why we believe minimal power into their hands is better.

Thats incredibly bleak outlook.  Thats why you have checks and balances.  Thats why you have good regulations.  Thats why you have legal framework

The paraadox of your statement is that if these selfish, dishonest people arent in the public sector then theyd just be in the private sector.  Libertarianism is not the solution for bad people problem.  Rules are the solution
The law can't be better than the people that decides them... and they are selfish, greedy, and dishonest. (In france, it is almost comical)


Law is built up over generations.  You have democracy in France? If you think you have the solution then you can get the people to vote you in to office

Even if you want to reduce govt you have to do that
The political leaders manipulate the media to present only left and right, "a choice" that only represent Statism. I have no choice to make, I don't approve their stupidity, and my time is better spent creating software than fighting over them.
US is funnier, the media (see youtube link I gave some post ago) purposefully ignored Ron Paul even when he got better votes than democrats or republicans.
Anyway, it is not in my pocket they are stealing because I am smart enough to evade all of that legally, and I don't want to fight for others pockets.
I am in a country where most of the people hate our government, they complain but don't understand they are the one that are feeding the beast.
Libertarian ? They have no idea about what it means since they never have seen anything else than statism since they are born.

The only thing that I fear is that all the money often does'nt go in the right pocket for a right purpose, and the world might can degenerate quickly when a very bad person comes to the head, as history have already shown us.

We don't need a libertarian government to live as a libertarian, just to think more carefully how to flow our wealth.

All Im saying is you can be a politician if. You think you can do better.  Nobody is stopping you
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 500
Is not about what kind of government, but what kind of people are in charge: till they are selfish, greedy and dishonest, no government can succeed.
This is precisely what kind of government, libertarian does not believe that it is possible to have a governement not selfish, greedy, and dishonest, this is why we believe minimal power into their hands is better.

Thats incredibly bleak outlook.  Thats why you have checks and balances.  Thats why you have good regulations.  Thats why you have legal framework

The paraadox of your statement is that if these selfish, dishonest people arent in the public sector then theyd just be in the private sector.  Libertarianism is not the solution for bad people problem.  Rules are the solution

Twiifm is right! What we need is a piece of paper with some ink on it that will stop psychopaths from using the state's monopoly on the initiation of force to inflict their whim upon people because........ magic!  Roll Eyes

What do you think the Constitution is
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 661
Is not about what kind of government, but what kind of people are in charge: till they are selfish, greedy and dishonest, no government can succeed.
This is precisely what kind of government, libertarian does not believe that it is possible to have a governement not selfish, greedy, and dishonest, this is why we believe minimal power into their hands is better.

Thats incredibly bleak outlook.  Thats why you have checks and balances.  Thats why you have good regulations.  Thats why you have legal framework

The paraadox of your statement is that if these selfish, dishonest people arent in the public sector then theyd just be in the private sector.  Libertarianism is not the solution for bad people problem.  Rules are the solution
The law can't be better than the people that decides them... and they are selfish, greedy, and dishonest. (In france, it is almost comical)


Law is built up over generations.  You have democracy in France? If you think you have the solution then you can get the people to vote you in to office

Even if you want to reduce govt you have to do that
The political leaders manipulate the media to present only left and right, "a choice" that only represent Statism. I have no choice to make, I don't approve their stupidity, and my time is better spent creating software than fighting over them.
US is funnier, the media (see youtube link I gave some post ago) purposefully ignored Ron Paul even when he got better votes than democrats or republicans.
Anyway, it is not in my pocket they are stealing because I am smart enough to evade all of that legally, and I don't want to fight for others pockets.
I am in a country where most of the people hate our government, they complain but don't understand they are the one that are feeding the beast.
Libertarian ? They have no idea about what it means since they never have seen anything else than statism since they are born.

The only thing that I fear is that all the money often does'nt go in the right pocket for a right purpose, and the world might can degenerate quickly when a very bad person comes to the head, as history have already shown us.

We don't need a libertarian government to live as a libertarian, just to think more carefully how to flow our wealth.
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
Is not about what kind of government, but what kind of people are in charge: till they are selfish, greedy and dishonest, no government can succeed.
This is precisely what kind of government, libertarian does not believe that it is possible to have a governement not selfish, greedy, and dishonest, this is why we believe minimal power into their hands is better.

Thats incredibly bleak outlook.  Thats why you have checks and balances.  Thats why you have good regulations.  Thats why you have legal framework

The paraadox of your statement is that if these selfish, dishonest people arent in the public sector then theyd just be in the private sector.  Libertarianism is not the solution for bad people problem.  Rules are the solution

Twiifm is right! What we need is a piece of paper with some ink on it that will stop psychopaths from using the state's monopoly on the initiation of force to inflict their whim upon people because........ magic!  Roll Eyes
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 500
Is not about what kind of government, but what kind of people are in charge: till they are selfish, greedy and dishonest, no government can succeed.
This is precisely what kind of government, libertarian does not believe that it is possible to have a governement not selfish, greedy, and dishonest, this is why we believe minimal power into their hands is better.

Thats incredibly bleak outlook.  Thats why you have checks and balances.  Thats why you have good regulations.  Thats why you have legal framework

The paraadox of your statement is that if these selfish, dishonest people arent in the public sector then theyd just be in the private sector.  Libertarianism is not the solution for bad people problem.  Rules are the solution
The law can't be better than the people that decides them... and they are selfish, greedy, and dishonest. (In france, it is almost comical)


Law is built up over generations.  You have democracy in France? If you think you have the solution then you can get the people to vote you in to office

Even if you want to reduce govt you have to do that
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 661
Is not about what kind of government, but what kind of people are in charge: till they are selfish, greedy and dishonest, no government can succeed.
This is precisely what kind of government, libertarian does not believe that it is possible to have a governement not selfish, greedy, and dishonest, this is why we believe minimal power into their hands is better.

Thats incredibly bleak outlook.  Thats why you have checks and balances.  Thats why you have good regulations.  Thats why you have legal framework

The paraadox of your statement is that if these selfish, dishonest people arent in the public sector then theyd just be in the private sector.  Libertarianism is not the solution for bad people problem.  Rules are the solution
The law can't be better than the people that decides them... and they are selfish, greedy, and dishonest. (In france, it is almost comical)
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 500
Is not about what kind of government, but what kind of people are in charge: till they are selfish, greedy and dishonest, no government can succeed.
This is precisely what kind of government, libertarian does not believe that it is possible to have a governement not selfish, greedy, and dishonest, this is why we believe minimal power into their hands is better.

Thats incredibly bleak outlook.  Thats why you have checks and balances.  Thats why you have good regulations.  Thats why you have legal framework

The paraadox of your statement is that if these selfish, dishonest people arent in the public sector then theyd just be in the private sector.  Libertarianism is not the solution for bad people problem.  Rules are the solution
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