Someone from DefaultTrust just killed my pot. Sr. Member account for no reason!

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Quote from: dooglus on October 09, 2015, 01:06:30 AM

OP asked me to look at this thread.

Funny that, considering the OP has been compared to GermanGiant who also came running to you to whine about his ratings at the exact same time RussianRaibow came running to me to try the "I am the new owner of this account, therefore noscam!" bollocks.

See, this is what happens when people buy and sell accounts, a business based almost entirely on fraud and deception and promoted by sellers who have access to multiple forum accounts and frequently use them to provide some sock-puppet support to their alts or even fraudulently conduct 'escrow' trade deals with themselves as both the 'escrow' and the trading partner.

Hey, Vitamin King, there is little point in posting the key parts of your post history in this thread because it is all pretty much the exact same promotion of CM, although if you can't see for yourself how obvious-shill-is-obvious then you are either lying or an idiot. In any event, you continue to promote a known ponzi scheme as though it is a legitimate cloud mining service, even though you know it isn't. That makes you untrustworthy.

Quote from: dooglus on October 09, 2015, 01:06:30 AM

I'm not sure whether it's worth addressing QS' veiled attacks. Probably not.

I'm starting to believe that QS is suffering from a serious mental disorder, he certainly displays definite symptoms of dysfunctional neurology/psychology. No joke.

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Quote from: ABitNut on October 09, 2015, 02:01:51 AM

Still paying? Hah. Technically pbmining is still paying as well. So that proves very little.

scrypt.cc too.

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Quote from: dooglus on October 09, 2015, 01:06:30 AM

In https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11453983 for instance:

"they keep on paying months after month disproving all BS lies"

It's very common for Ponzi apologists to claim that "still paying" somehow proves it's not a Ponzi.

OP isn't simply reporting on the facts as he claims. He's using faulty logic to promote a likely scam.

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I'm not sure whether it's worth addressing QS' veiled attacks. Probably not.

Still paying? Hah. Technically pbmining is still paying as well. So that proves very little.

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Quote from: Quickseller on October 08, 2015, 12:27:58 PM

I prefer to avoid unprofessionalism whenever possible.

OP asked me to look at this thread. While I think the wording of the feedback is a little harsh I don't think it's out of place. OP talks like a typical cloud mining shill.

In https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11453983 for instance:

"they keep on paying months after month disproving all BS lies"

It's very common for Ponzi apologists to claim that "still paying" somehow proves it's not a Ponzi.

OP isn't simply reporting on the facts as he claims. He's using faulty logic to promote a likely scam.

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I'm not sure whether it's worth addressing QS' veiled attacks. Probably not.

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Quote from: cryptodevil on October 08, 2015, 12:21:45 PM

^^^ This.

This means what? The link the post above you contains is pointing to another person's statement, which I replied to as well.

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Quote from: Vitamin King on October 07, 2015, 03:56:51 PM

It is not about being shill/supporter or anything.

Have you seen your post history? You even keep reposting the same promotional content from previous posts from months earlier. You are actively trying to encourage others to join what is clearly a ponzi-based scam and it looks very similar to kind of spam GermanGiant has been posting, too.

Why are you just giving blanket statement? Backup your words by quoting my post history that you are pointing at. Which promotional content you are talking about? My posts regarding CMW consists of blockchain Tx and screenshot showing people made ROI with it. If you find ad or other promotional content that I have posted, please show it. I did not even wear their signature ever.

Quote from: cryptodevil on October 08, 2015, 12:21:45 PM

That you have posted *some* negative comments here and there is no different to the sort of tactics used by shills to try and avoid the accusation they only speak positively about a scam.

So, I have posted *some* positive comments here and there makes all the difference? Is this what today's standard of DefaultTrust? Things are clearly pointing out to the fact that you have some incentive in silencing people to post facts about certain services.

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Quote from: TheGr33k on October 08, 2015, 12:56:19 PM

I'm joking, but prophesying about yourself is just as unprofessional as calling you out for it

Since when is there any professionalism or logic in religion? Cheesy

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Quote from: Vod on October 08, 2015, 12:34:36 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on October 08, 2015, 12:27:58 PM

It is also unprofessional to name someone like that and I prefer to avoid unprofessionalism whenever possible.

Try and remember that in the future. It will help you look more professional.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12603059

Hey now! He's just reminding you of everywhere that your godliness has been announced. I wouldn't say that's unprofessional, it's almost evangelistic! He's gathering a compilation of your great words, almost like a bible.

I'm joking, but prophesying about yourself is just as unprofessional as calling you out for it Cheesy

even though I understand you're not the one who mentioned it first. Tongue

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Quote from: Quickseller on October 08, 2015, 12:27:58 PM

It is also unprofessional to name someone like that and I prefer to avoid unprofessionalism whenever possible.

Try and remember that in the future. It will help you look more professional.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12603059

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Quote from: Quickseller on October 08, 2015, 12:27:58 PM

I prefer to avoid unprofessionalism whenever possible.

There goes another irony-meter.

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Quote from: Vod on October 08, 2015, 12:23:58 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on October 08, 2015, 12:05:36 PM

Where the difference here is that I don't speculate when I give trust (except for the *rare* neutral rating that says that something is being looked into and that caution should be exercised). In the case of the OP I think it is pretty clear that speculation is being used (exclusively) in the decision to leave the rating.

This seems to be a common theme among ~~users who are in dooglus's trust list (more specifically those who are in dooglus's trust list but not in anyone else's on level 1's trust list) as well as dooglus's ratings.~~

Just say Vod. Wink

I was not actually talking about you in that particular post. Although I do have separate concerns about some of your other ratings.

It is also unprofessional to name someone like that and I prefer to avoid unprofessionalism whenever possible.

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Quote from: Quickseller on October 08, 2015, 12:05:36 PM

Where the difference here is that I don't speculate when I give trust (except for the *rare* neutral rating that says that something is being looked into and that caution should be exercised). In the case of the OP I think it is pretty clear that speculation is being used (exclusively) in the decision to leave the rating.

This seems to be a common theme among ~~users who are in dooglus's trust list (more specifically those who are in dooglus's trust list but not in anyone else's on level 1's trust list) as well as dooglus's ratings.~~

Just say Vod. Wink

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Maybe the reason he is here is because he is interested in cloud mining.

During the ponzi craze that took place at the beginning of the year, there were plenty of people who were posting exclusively in various ponzi threads, including those that were run by TheGambler aka Moreia aka James Volpe, as well as ponzi threads that were not run by him. I have a good reason to believe that Moreia was not the person behind these accounts.

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^^^ This.

Quote from: Vitamin King on October 07, 2015, 03:56:51 PM

It is not about being shill/supporter or anything.

Have you seen your post history? You even keep reposting the same promotional content from previous posts from months earlier. You are actively trying to encourage others to join what is clearly a ponzi-based scam and it looks very similar to kind of spam GermanGiant has been posting, too.

That you have posted *some* negative comments here and there is no different to the sort of tactics used by shills to try and avoid the accusation they only speak positively about a scam.

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Quote from: TheGr33k on October 08, 2015, 11:58:46 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on October 08, 2015, 11:50:24 AM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 08, 2015, 11:05:52 AM

I'm with cryptodevil on this one, he seems to be paying attention to ponzis and cloudmining sites where other DT members fail/don't like paying attention to them. And the OP's post history seems too much similar to germangiant who is promoting/shilling cloudmining.website at every point.

From the looks of it the OP is reporting his experience doing business with a company that someone *thinks* is a scam. I have not seen any evidence that the OP if affiliated with any scam site.

From the looks of it, there is a company that is doing business in a way that someone does not like and as a result, this person gives negative trust to anyone that does business with that company. All while *speculating* that they are "shilling" for such company.

If someone is essentially gambling their money by doing business with a company that has a high chance of being a scam and then reporting their experience then they are no more a scammer then someone who gambles on an actual gambling site, say (a made up site called) gust-bice and reports their experience. I am sure that the owner of gust-bice would much rather this person gamble on their gambling site though....

It's really unfortunate if someone is given -ve based off of being gullible enough to fall for a scam or for being trustworthy enough to believe in a new company. I don't think you blame participants for being involved with a "potential" scam if they are simple trying to reap the rewards offered to the "users(victims)". Although I think we're getting off topic, and should re-adjust ourselves because it's unfortunate that QS gets harassed in literally every thread he's mentioned in. There's already dozens of threads with dozens of pages dedicated to complaining about QS and the reciprocal as well.

I wouldn't call someone who devotes their entire post history to a known scam, a innocent victim who was just "recommending" the service. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11836838 have a look here, more or less same thing cryptodevil is saying.
Lastly, I respect your arguments and opinions on scam or scammy behaviour QS but this one is, I estimate, just for demoralizing cryptodevil and getting him removed from DT.
P.S: Found it better to answer to you both guys at once instead of individually

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Where the difference here is that I don't speculate when I give trust (except for the *rare* neutral rating that says that something is being looked into and that caution should be exercised). In the case of the OP I think it is pretty clear that speculation is being used (exclusively) in the decision to leave the rating.

This seems to be a common theme among users who are in dooglus's trust list (more specifically those who are in dooglus's trust list but not in anyone else's on level 1's trust list) as well as dooglus's ratings.

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Quote from: Quickseller on October 08, 2015, 11:50:24 AM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 08, 2015, 11:05:52 AM

I'm with cryptodevil on this one, he seems to be paying attention to ponzis and cloudmining sites where other DT members fail/don't like paying attention to them. And the OP's post history seems too much similar to germangiant who is promoting/shilling cloudmining.website at every point.

From the looks of it the OP is reporting his experience doing business with a company that someone *thinks* is a scam. I have not seen any evidence that the OP if affiliated with any scam site.

From the looks of it, there is a company that is doing business in a way that someone does not like and as a result, this person gives negative trust to anyone that does business with that company. All while *speculating* that they are "shilling" for such company.

If someone is essentially gambling their money by doing business with a company that has a high chance of being a scam and then reporting their experience then they are no more a scammer then someone who gambles on an actual gambling site, say (a made up site called) gust-bice and reports their experience. I am sure that the owner of gust-bice would much rather this person gamble on their gambling site though....

It's really unfortunate if someone is given -ve based off of being gullible enough to fall for a scam or for being trustworthy enough to believe in a new company. I don't think you blame participants for being involved with a "potential" scam if they are simple trying to reap the rewards offered to the "users(victims)". Although I think we're getting off topic, and should re-adjust ourselves because it's unfortunate that QS gets harassed in literally every thread he's mentioned in. There's already dozens of threads with dozens of pages dedicated to complaining about QS and the reciprocal as well.

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Quote from: mexxer-2 on October 08, 2015, 11:05:52 AM

I'm with cryptodevil on this one, he seems to be paying attention to ponzis and cloudmining sites where other DT members fail/don't like paying attention to them. And the OP's post history seems too much similar to germangiant who is promoting/shilling cloudmining.website at every point.

From the looks of it the OP is reporting his experience doing business with a company that someone *thinks* is a scam. I have not seen any evidence that the OP if affiliated with any scam site.

From the looks of it, there is a company that is doing business in a way that someone does not like and as a result, this person gives negative trust to anyone that does business with that company. All while *speculating* that they are "shilling" for such company.

If someone is essentially gambling their money by doing business with a company that has a high chance of being a scam and then reporting their experience then they are no more a scammer then someone who gambles on an actual gambling site, say (a made up site called) gust-bice and reports their experience. I am sure that the owner of gust-bice would much rather this person gamble on their gambling site though....

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I'm with cryptodevil on this one, he seems to be paying attention to ponzis and cloudmining sites where other DT members fail/don't like paying attention to them. And the OP's post history seems too much similar to germangiant who is promoting/shilling cloudmining.website at every point.

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Quote from: cryptodevil on October 08, 2015, 10:51:44 AM

Oh I see, like that is it, QS? Done having your tantrum over being put in your place about your transparent attempts to deflect from the truth that you are a proven and even self-confessed scammer and now are looking to make wild accusations about me, for which you have absolutely no evidence and will never have any evidence because it is, unsurprisingly considering you are involved, a big fat fucking lie.

Here's the thing, the Trust system allows people to rate negatively if you have reason to suspect a person is a scammer.

You scammed people by performing 'escrow' trades with yourself. That is fraud. You even admit to having done it.

Which part of that behaviour qualifies you as being trustworthy? Ergo, the rating I gave you is correct.

As for RussianRaibow, GermanGiant and SpanishSoldier, check the history and you will see that it has already been proven they are connected to the cloudmining.website scam.

Seems that scammers with an axe to grind are starting to get shitty because more and more people are making it harder for them to operate so easily around here.

You have not given any explanation about why you left the -ve on me. I have already explained my position here - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12628417

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Oh I see, like that is it, QS? Done having your tantrum over being put in your place about your transparent attempts to deflect from the truth that you are a proven and even self-confessed scammer and now are looking to make wild accusations about me, for which you have absolutely no evidence and will never have any evidence because it is, unsurprisingly considering you are involved, a big fat fucking lie.

Here's the thing, the Trust system allows people to rate negatively if you have reason to suspect a person is a scammer.

You scammed people by performing 'escrow' trades with yourself. That is fraud. You even admit to having done it.

Which part of that behaviour qualifies you as being trustworthy? Ergo, the rating I gave you is correct.

As for RussianRaibow, GermanGiant and SpanishSoldier, check the history and you will see that it has already been proven they are connected to the cloudmining.website scam.

Seems that scammers with an axe to grind are starting to get shitty because more and more people are making it harder for them to operate so easily around here.

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