Someone from DefaultTrust just killed my pot. Sr. Member account for no reason! - page 2.

TheGr33k

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Quote from: Vod on October 08, 2015, 12:58:06 AM

Quote from: cexi on October 07, 2015, 04:38:20 PM

This is normal for the forum. I have been through it too.

you don't break a single rule and some dicklicker still leaves you bad trust.

#typical

You haven't been through it. You have no unjustified negative trust on your account.

I've noticed that it's a common theme around this forum for users with negative trust to assume that the system is flawed. The DT members are corrupt and they're all apart of a higher bitcoin elite society that revolves around ruining the network for newbies. I just think it's a little absurd that someone can talk and act the way some of these members do and expect no repercussions.

Vod

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Licking my boob since 1970

Quote from: cexi on October 07, 2015, 04:38:20 PM

This is normal for the forum. I have been through it too.

you don't break a single rule and some dicklicker still leaves you bad trust.

#typical

You haven't been through it. You have no unjustified negative trust on your account.

TheGr33k

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Quote from: cexi on October 07, 2015, 04:44:48 PM

Quote from: TheGr33k on October 07, 2015, 04:42:34 PM

Normally people from DT will be reasonable if they gave you a false-rating. Try to talk it out with that member and see what they're willing to do; if you truly think it's unwarranted then you can make a thread in Meta to complain!

Wrong. Now stop talking, chump.

I've seen it happen on multiple occasions and I'm simply offering the easiest solution. I can't say that an attitude like that would assist in getting any -ve reputation removed, but to each his own.
They're not on DT for no reason, and 99.99% of the time they don't -ve for no reason either.

Just trying to help, and normally de-escalating the situation is your best option.

cexi

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Quote from: subSTRATA on October 07, 2015, 05:05:59 PM

Quote from: cexi on October 07, 2015, 05:03:10 PM

Quote from: subSTRATA on October 07, 2015, 05:01:06 PM

Quote from: cexi on October 07, 2015, 04:59:37 PM

Quote from: subSTRATA on October 07, 2015, 04:58:39 PM

Quote from: cexi on October 07, 2015, 04:38:20 PM

This is normal for the forum. I have been through it too.

you don't break a single rule and some dicklicker still leaves you bad trust.

#typical

the DT members dont tag you for breaking the rules, they tag you if they feel you are a scammer or youre suspicious in general. in your case, you were attempting to buy positive trust from DT members which is pretty darn shady.

it's quicker than ass kissing like you do

please do feel free to point out where im kissing ass. also, its not quicker if it doesnt work in the first place.

about every thread you pretend to show concern

how about this stop kissing ass and just eat a dick

please do feel free to post any example where i ask dt members for trust. you wont find any because i dont. you seem quite mad that people tagged you negative for being shady, which is what theyre supposed to do.
https://i.gyazo.com/2b172be3da84ee69705e9e81a6746116.png

oh ya put me in ignore so you don't have to respond to the evidence

nice one slick scammer Wink

subSTRATA

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:^)

Quote from: cexi on October 07, 2015, 05:03:10 PM

Quote from: subSTRATA on October 07, 2015, 05:01:06 PM

Quote from: cexi on October 07, 2015, 04:59:37 PM

Quote from: subSTRATA on October 07, 2015, 04:58:39 PM

Quote from: cexi on October 07, 2015, 04:38:20 PM

This is normal for the forum. I have been through it too.

you don't break a single rule and some dicklicker still leaves you bad trust.

#typical

the DT members dont tag you for breaking the rules, they tag you if they feel you are a scammer or youre suspicious in general. in your case, you were attempting to buy positive trust from DT members which is pretty darn shady.

it's quicker than ass kissing like you do

please do feel free to point out where im kissing ass. also, its not quicker if it doesnt work in the first place.

about every thread you pretend to show concern

how about this stop kissing ass and just eat a dick

please do feel free to post any example where i ask dt members for trust. you wont find any because i dont. you seem quite mad that people tagged you negative for being shady, which is what theyre supposed to do.

shorena

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Quote from: Vitamin King on October 07, 2015, 03:56:51 PM

-snip-
I would like to know who is this someone. I need to talk to him. Because, the person left me -ve did not communicate me anything yet. Its like he can make anyone -ve at his whim.
-snip-

Cryptodevil is on the list of dooglus.

cexi

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Quote from: subSTRATA on October 07, 2015, 05:01:06 PM

Quote from: cexi on October 07, 2015, 04:59:37 PM

Quote from: subSTRATA on October 07, 2015, 04:58:39 PM

Quote from: cexi on October 07, 2015, 04:38:20 PM

This is normal for the forum. I have been through it too.

you don't break a single rule and some dicklicker still leaves you bad trust.

#typical

the DT members dont tag you for breaking the rules, they tag you if they feel you are a scammer or youre suspicious in general. in your case, you were attempting to buy positive trust from DT members which is pretty darn shady.

it's quicker than ass kissing like you do

please do feel free to point out where im kissing ass. also, its not quicker if it doesnt work in the first place.

about every thread you pretend to show concern

how about this stop kissing ass and just eat a dick

subSTRATA

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Merit: 1043

:^)

Quote from: cexi on October 07, 2015, 04:59:37 PM

Quote from: subSTRATA on October 07, 2015, 04:58:39 PM

Quote from: cexi on October 07, 2015, 04:38:20 PM

This is normal for the forum. I have been through it too.

you don't break a single rule and some dicklicker still leaves you bad trust.

#typical

the DT members dont tag you for breaking the rules, they tag you if they feel you are a scammer or youre suspicious in general. in your case, you were attempting to buy positive trust from DT members which is pretty darn shady.

it's quicker than ass kissing like you do

please do feel free to point out where im kissing ass. also, its not quicker if it doesnt work in the first place.

cexi

newbie

Activity: 48

Merit: 0

Quote from: subSTRATA on October 07, 2015, 04:58:39 PM

Quote from: cexi on October 07, 2015, 04:38:20 PM

This is normal for the forum. I have been through it too.

you don't break a single rule and some dicklicker still leaves you bad trust.

#typical

the DT members dont tag you for breaking the rules, they tag you if they feel you are a scammer or youre suspicious in general. in your case, you were attempting to buy positive trust from DT members which is pretty darn shady.

it's quicker than ass kissing like you do

subSTRATA

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Activity: 1288

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:^)

Quote from: cexi on October 07, 2015, 04:38:20 PM

This is normal for the forum. I have been through it too.

you don't break a single rule and some dicklicker still leaves you bad trust.

#typical

the DT members dont tag you for breaking the rules, they tag you if they feel you are a scammer or youre suspicious in general. in your case, you were attempting to buy positive trust from DT members which is pretty darn shady.

cexi

newbie

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Merit: 0

Quote from: Blazr on October 07, 2015, 04:51:05 PM

Quote from: cexi on October 07, 2015, 04:38:20 PM

you don't break a single rule and some dicklicker still leaves you bad trust.

Yes thats totally true in many cases people do get negative trust even though they haven't broken any rules.

One example would be scammers, since scamming isn't strictly against the rules.

you don't have to talk any more

Blazr

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Quote from: cexi on October 07, 2015, 04:38:20 PM

you don't break a single rule and some dicklicker still leaves you bad trust.

Yes thats totally true in many cases people do get negative trust even though they haven't broken any rules.

One example would be scammers, since scamming isn't strictly against the rules.

unholycactus

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Quote from: cexi on October 07, 2015, 04:38:20 PM

This is normal for the forum. I have been through it too.

you don't break a single rule and some dicklicker still leaves you bad trust.

#typical

The trust system was never about rule breaking.
@OP I don't think trading history is required to be on DT. cryptodevil has pretty shallow feedback and it shouldn't really bother you.

cexi

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Quote from: TheGr33k on October 07, 2015, 04:42:34 PM

Normally people from DT will be reasonable if they gave you a false-rating. Try to talk it out with that member and see what they're willing to do; if you truly think it's unwarranted then you can make a thread in Meta to complain!

Wrong. Now stop talking, chump.

TheGr33k

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Normally people from DT will be reasonable if they gave you a false-rating. Try to talk it out with that member and see what they're willing to do; if you truly think it's unwarranted then you can make a thread in Meta to complain!

cexi

newbie

Activity: 48

Merit: 0

This is normal for the forum. I have been through it too.

you don't break a single rule and some dicklicker still leaves you bad trust.

#typical

Vitamin King

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Quote from: Athertle on October 05, 2015, 02:44:33 PM

Not exactly. cryptodevil has had an active presence on the forum for scam busting and apparently had trustable behavior, so someone on depth 1 added him to their trust list.

I would like to know who is this someone. I need to talk to him. Because, the person left me -ve did not communicate me anything yet. Its like he can make anyone -ve at his whim.

Quote from: Athertle on October 05, 2015, 02:44:33 PM

IMHO, I think that the trust rating was unfounded; the possibility that the OP was just a supporter of CloudMining.website is pretty plausible.

It is not about being shill/supporter or anything. When I was a newbie, I was doubtful about www.cloudmining.website and hence asked for people's opinion (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cloud-mining-please-help-a-newbie-852857). Since then I have only reported the facts I came across. Their payment with Tx ID, review by other cloud mining monitor. So, I am not allowed to post the facts I see or what? Lately, they had some issues with payment confirmation. I was the first to report that on the forum...

Quote from: Vitamin King on September 14, 2015, 10:13:57 AM

Why is today's payment hanging as unconfirmed Tx for so long ?

https://blockchain.info/tx/92161bd3fdd139d9f7a5a8f3fc1ef4ffeeae5e5ab8d636072c6e9c166bd64f34

Even I did the same before - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/my-payments-are-stuck-1014548. If I am their shill, why would I point out -ve things about them? Not only that, if you follow my post history, you'll find I was also active on CloudMinr.io thread, where I lost fund. If I am a shill of this cloud mining, why would I report payment on CloudMinr.io?

Given the above facts, how can someone point me as a shill for merely reporting my experience with www.cloudmining.website?

Quickseller

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Quote from: ndnh on October 06, 2015, 12:50:22 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on October 06, 2015, 12:18:08 AM

Quote from: ndnh on October 06, 2015, 12:00:25 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on October 05, 2015, 11:21:09 PM

Quote from: ndnh on October 05, 2015, 11:17:39 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on October 05, 2015, 09:31:52 PM

To say that someone should not have trading experience to be in the DefaultTrust network is ridiculous. If they have no experience trading then what would they be doing looking at marketplace threads where the scams are going to be taking place?

No, having trading experience shouldn't be and is not a qualification for being on DT.

What would they be doing looking at Marketplace threads then? What incentive would they have to have to be reasonable with individual trust ratings? If they have no trading experience then why would they have sent any trust ratings?

AFAIK the qualification should be that
the person is trustworthy and
the person leaves reasonable trust ratings
Past trades may indicate trustworthiness but it isn't the only indicator. Well, theymos and BadBear isn't on DT because of trades. Grin

There are DT members with 0 trust score and quite qualify being on Default trust than many others.

How is anyone suppose to know that you are trustworthy if you have never been trusted in the past?

Theymos may not be on DT because of the trades he has done in the past, however he has conducted business on the forum in the past. For example he sold a TI-84 Plus with a Pink Faceplate, and he auctions off forum advertisements multiple times per month.

I am not sure what trades BadBear has conducted in the past, however he has been trusted with sensitive information in the past (and AFAIK continues to be trusted with such information). He also trades his services as an admin for several BTC every month.

Trust not equal to doing lot of successful trades.
Past trades is not a guarantee of trustworthiness, though it most of the times have to be taken so because there are only less things to base it on.

theymos isn't on DT because he sold a TI-84 plus with a Pink Faceplate. Grin

It is more like:
the person is not untrustworthy, has not indulged in suspicious behavior and can be reasonably trusted; and most importantly
the person leaves reasonable trust ratings

You are not trustworthy by default, but rather the opposite.

No theymos is not considered trustworthy because of a single trade, and especially not that trade. However the fact that he completed that trade (apparently) is an indication that he might know how to act reasonably when dealing with others.

Quickseller

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Quote from: TheGr33k on October 06, 2015, 12:40:13 AM

Quote from: ndnh on October 05, 2015, 11:17:39 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on October 05, 2015, 09:31:52 PM

To say that someone should not have trading experience to be in the DefaultTrust network is ridiculous. If they have no experience trading then what would they be doing looking at marketplace threads where the scams are going to be taking place?

No, not having trading experience shouldn't be and is not a disqualification from being on DT.

Yep, how come trust is developed only by doing trade? I used to trust Quickseller once, not because he had done a lot of trades, but because he was great in busting out scams.

The reason I came across the scams that I was able to bust was because I was active in trading. So although trading may not have been the direct reason for such trust, however it did play a roll (at least behind the scenes).

Also the scams I busted were not quite as obvious as the scams that the person who gave negative trust to the OP harasses about. I also don't go around in threads of scams posting repetitive information in an obsessive, and harassing way. I will warn others about what I believe to be suspicious behavior, and if someone has any questions or wants clarification, then I will most likely provide answers/clarification. I won't however accuse anyone who chooses to do business with a scammer to be a shill of that scam site, and the same is true for whoever chooses to take the risk of doing business with a likely scammer (although there is certain criteria that would make me believe that someone is actually a shill/alt of a scammer, and the OP does not match this criteria IMO)

ndnh

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Quote from: Quickseller on October 06, 2015, 12:18:08 AM

Quote from: ndnh on October 06, 2015, 12:00:25 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on October 05, 2015, 11:21:09 PM

Quote from: ndnh on October 05, 2015, 11:17:39 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on October 05, 2015, 09:31:52 PM

To say that someone should not have trading experience to be in the DefaultTrust network is ridiculous. If they have no experience trading then what would they be doing looking at marketplace threads where the scams are going to be taking place?

No, having trading experience shouldn't be and is not a qualification for being on DT.

What would they be doing looking at Marketplace threads then? What incentive would they have to have to be reasonable with individual trust ratings? If they have no trading experience then why would they have sent any trust ratings?

AFAIK the qualification should be that
the person is trustworthy and
the person leaves reasonable trust ratings
Past trades may indicate trustworthiness but it isn't the only indicator. Well, theymos and BadBear isn't on DT because of trades. Grin

There are DT members with 0 trust score and quite qualify being on Default trust than many others.

How is anyone suppose to know that you are trustworthy if you have never been trusted in the past?

Theymos may not be on DT because of the trades he has done in the past, however he has conducted business on the forum in the past. For example he sold a TI-84 Plus with a Pink Faceplate, and he auctions off forum advertisements multiple times per month.

I am not sure what trades BadBear has conducted in the past, however he has been trusted with sensitive information in the past (and AFAIK continues to be trusted with such information). He also trades his services as an admin for several BTC every month.

Trust is not equal to doing lot of successful trades.
Past trades is not a guarantee of trustworthiness, though it most of the times have to be taken so because there are only less things to base it on.

theymos isn't on DT because he sold a TI-84 plus with a Pink Faceplate. Grin

It is more like:
the person is not untrustworthy, has not indulged in suspicious behavior and can be reasonably trusted; and most importantly
the person leaves reasonable trust ratings. (includes busting scammers and leaving negative trusts as well as leaving neutral and positive trusts)

Doing lot of solid successful trades might get a green trust score, but they wouldn't be added to DT for that.

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